Tupac & Suge..

[SiGh]

Have they ever publicly been seen arguing? Or was there a known "beef" between them at any point, prior to Tupac's death?

I know he was trying to leave the label and all that good shit, but how was this known? Thru friends and etc, after he died? Or was this in the media news and shit?

 

[Rahim]

i don't remember the story but they were arguing at the tyson fight


im pretty sure he said it a couple of times that he was opening up Makaveli Records, which I would assume means that he was leaving Death Row...

 

[masta247]

Leaving DR = speculations. I also heard that Makaveli Records was supposed to be under Deathrow like Shady and Aftermath. I think people who said that he's going to definately leave DR said it to have an argument that Suge killed Pac. No, there's no footage where they are beefing, from what I remember it's just a gossip about them beefing at some point.

 

[Rahim]

^^i did believe that a lot at one point, that suge killed pac, but it's not a fact so all it is is a theory, but whose to say it's a bad one?

 

[masta247]

I think it's a bad theory. There are many factors that make it impossible. If Suge killed Pac then - he nearly sacrificed his own life for it, he made the biggest mistake in his whole life business-wise and also did a bitch move by setting up his friend. I don't believe that it's even slightly possible. Orlando and his people killed him - after all I know (including all known facts and some semi-rare info I collected for all those Pac-die-hard-fan years) I'm 99% sure, 1% being random gang bangers, gangsters taking out their hitlist target or the government

 

[THEV1LL4N]

got any info on orlando?

 

[Euphanasia]

Leaving DR = speculations. I also heard that Makaveli Records was supposed to be under Deathrow like Shady and Aftermath.

Right.

'Pac wasn't planning on leaving deathrow. Makaveli records was going to branch off of deathrow records. the notion that pac was going to leave deathrow was a rumor started by those who believed that suge was behind the murder.

 

[Prize Gotti]

I think it's a bad theory. There are many factors that make it impossible. If Suge killed Pac then - he nearly sacrificed his own life for it, he made the biggest mistake in his whole life business-wise and also did a bitch move by setting up his friend. I don't believe that it's even slightly possible. Orlando and his people killed him - after all I know (including all known facts and some semi-rare info I collected for all those Pac-die-hard-fan years) I'm 99% sure, 1% being random gang bangers, gangsters taking out their hitlist target or the government

Don't you think its funny that Pac got shot the fuck up, Suge got a scratch. Don't you think its funny that the investigating officers were on Suge pay roll. Don't you think its funny that Suges own staff say it was him?

Right.

'Pac wasn't planning on leaving deathrow. Makaveli records was going to branch off of deathrow records. the notion that pac was going to leave deathrow was a rumor started by those who believed that suge was behind the murder.

Pac was leaving D/R, and he was leaving because Suge pulled the plug on Death Row East, that was Pacs branch of D/R. Makaveli records was his own thing he was setting up with Suge because of this.

I worked with Jerzey Mob, whose members were being signed to Deathrow East before this happened, they told me this themselves.

 

[masta247]

Don't you think its funny that Pac got shot the fuck up, Suge got a scratch. Don't you think its funny that the investigating officers were on Suge pay roll. Don't you think its funny that Suges own staff say it was him?

I think Suge wouldn't risk his own life, and he did risk it by sitting in the very same car. Also from what I remember Suge took a serious shot?
I think you base your statements on Pac's bodyguard's documentaries. I think there are 2 or 3 people from his staff claiming that it was Suge who killed Pac. By killing 2pac Suge would've done the biggest mistake in his whole life and I'm sure he wasn't that stupid.
And with all respect to Jerzey Mob.. how would they know? They know probably less about the whole situation than we do, except the info about DR east.

 

[Euphanasia]

Pac was leaving D/R, and he was leaving because Suge pulled the plug on Death Row East, that was Pacs branch of D/R. Makaveli records was his own thing he was setting up with Suge because of this. .

'Pac is interviewed talking about deathrow east very near the time he is shot and killed. i don't know the exact date of the interview but i surmise that it's within a month or so of his death. if the plug got pulled on death row east, it would had to have been right before pac was killed.

i've never heard this anywhere before so i'm sure you can forgive my skepticism.

not to mention your near dismissal of masta's valid and most probable argument lends more skepticism on what you're saying.

 

[DarkPhantom13]

'Pac is interviewed talking about deathrow east very near the time he is shot and killed. i don't know the exact date of the interview but i surmise that it's within a month or so of his death. if the plug got pulled on death row east, it would had to have been right before pac was killed.

i've never heard this anywhere before so i'm sure you can forgive my skepticism.

not to mention your near dismissal of masta's valid and most probable argument lends more skepticism on what you're saying.

The plug wasn't pulled on DR East since Pac talked about Death Row East at the VMA's just a few days before he was shot in Vegas.

 

[Euphanasia]

^word? i was pretty certain i was right.

 

[EDouble]

Yeah if wasnt said Pacs sister on commentary or special feature or some shit on Resurrection dvd talk about them getin into it with each other but how close they would be also

talks their relationship differ might be for diferent time periods or different perspectives thers people were close to Pac claim they didnt ever get along ohers say how close one of them things far as publicaly don't think ever Pac was loyal

 

[Bender]

Pac's ego was bigger than Suge's. Sure, I can believe there was a certain 'beef' between them, but Pac did nothing but kept it under control. Tupac was no sucker, not even to suge.