Tiger kills Kansas teen for taking a picture

they prob killed it to avoid a big shit storm of people complaining, "why is it still alive it killed a little girl bla bla bla" rip to the girl tho but id never go near one, i dont give a fuck if it was paws were chained together, blind folded and gagged with 100 grand in its collar, fuck that..

some people have these has pets, that always got to me, yeah one day tiger has an headache and u go to pet it on the head, arm gone! its not like a dog or cat what would bite u whatevea with this little cut, tiger would rip ya shit clean off... plus ya could fight a dog and a cat ya could football kick that shit out of the window, but tiger could pin u down and rape you if it wanted to...
 
I don't know if wild animals like Tigers/Lions etc.. can be properly trained for humans beings to interact with them on a daily basis. What I mean by this is that customers coming in and out taking pictures with the Tiger and you got to remember anything can make the tiger go off your perfume smell, the way to move around the tiger and so forth. Best bet is to let the trainers interact with them and we should stay away from them and appreciate them from far away. This quote did seal it for me though.

"People are naturally fascinated by these wild and dangerous creatures, but that doesn't mean they should have direct access to these powerful and unpredictable animals," Pacelle said. "A spate of recent attacks demonstrates that these animals pose a threat to public safety and should only be handled by highly trained professionals in controlled environments at accredited zoos."

Instincts?
 
Skillz said:
Very weak argument. U gone kill ur cat if it turned around n scratched u? I think not.

No, but if it killed someone I would. If my dog killed someone, a child or whatever, Id put my dog down.

Ppl's pets randomly attack all tha time. I've had my cat scratch me for no reason before. Yeah, we can take pics wit em. N if they attack, u can't blame em when u forced em into trainin.

Funny how you choose to use the cat analogy knowing cats cant harm you, but you know dogs can and its the same thing as the tiger so you choose to ignore that. Clap clap.

U kno wat? I'm a train u to walk around a cage n take pics wit me n stuff. N if u ever turn around to punch me in tha face, I'm a kill u.

Skillz

Wow once again, clap clap for saying some shit that had nothing to do with the article, the situation or the discussion. The tigers lived in a national park, not a cage. Having said that, if I was ever to punch you in the face, Im sure you'd want to punch me back. The tiger killed a girl, it was killed in return. Same thing.

Clap clap.
 
AmerikazMost said:
Rukas, all I'm saying is people should be smarter than that. They should know better than to hang around with a dangerous animal, trained or not.


I totally agree. However I do not agree with people in here saying she deserved to die because she took a photo with a tiger, that is just wrong.
 
Rukas said:
I totally agree. However I do not agree with people in here saying she deserved to die because she took a photo with a tiger, that is just wrong.

I don't know if we're looking at the same thread, but no one said the girl deserved to die because of it....
 
Rukas said:
So what the fuck are you saying? Before you said the girl should have known better; so if its like a trained doberman are you saying people shouldnt stand next to dobermans or other dogs that may attack? (Thats all of them.)
You curb others from using a cat analogy, saying that isn't really an acceptable comparison, well same goes for this dog analogy. Dogs have been domesticated for centuries. On top of that, tigers are kept in cages away from thepublic, domestic dogs that attack would have to be taken away because they are in public places.
Throughout your posts you have emphasised that the tiger was TRAINED and not WILD. You seem to be placing a lot of faith in the trainers ability or are just naive to the congenital nature of tigers.
Are you yourself surprised that the tiger that was TRAINED - attacked?

Also, nobody said the girl deserved to die, if someone commits suicide they don't really deserve to die, but there are risks involved, infact, it would be suffice to say that it was unfortunate the girl died. But to put down the tiger is the bigger injustice in this sad affair. After the unforseen and unstoppable death of the girl. In hindsight you could have taken all kinds of measures, but it aint going to happen now.

But I guess i'm just going to get a 'clap clap' :rolleyes: must be hard being you Rukas, - right all the time. Or maybe it's just arrogance.
 
^^ I worded what I said wrong, for that I appologize. No one said she "deserved it". they did however say she was dumb or stupid and should have known the tiger would kill her. That is not the case, she didnt know the tiger would kill her, and it is not her fault for being killed, it is the tigers fault and perhaps the parks fault.

The dog analogy stands, a tiger trained from birth is just as trained as a dog trained from birth; how many generations have been trained before it has no relevence on the current animal.

The only arrogance in this thread is suggesting that she should have known the tiger would attack.

Standing next to a tiger does not warrent an attack. The tiger did not attack because she stood next to it. Why did the tiger attack? Why her in particular? What made it bite her? Those are the questions that will be examined, but its not something she did, and shes not stupid nor dumb for standing next to the tiger at a park that allows people to stand next to their animals.

The only arrogance in this thread is that which suggest standing next to a tiger will result in being bitten, trained or not, that is not the case. Something MADE this tiger attack, whether it was a lack of feeding, a disease, abuse or whatever, it was not the girl. The tests taken on the tiger are aimed to find these answers to prevent future attacks.

The attack was not her fault. That is a fact, she did nothing to warrent being attacked (at least not judging from the article), thus my comments are not arrogant, they are fact.

Its funny ken, we used to be cool, but ever since I said that you pissing sitting down like a girl was weird you think Im arrogant. Are your feelings still hurt?
 
Rukas said:
No, but if it killed someone I would. If my dog killed someone, a child or whatever, Id put my dog down.[/QUOTE=Rukas]

N wat would that do? Prevent killins by killin it? Since when it will b released on parole, it is prone to kill again. I'll let u discuss tha moral issue of that, in ur mind. Just don't own any dogs since u don't really kno anythin bout animals.


Rukas said:
Funny how you choose to use the cat analogy knowing cats cant harm you, but you know dogs can and its the same thing as the tiger so you choose to ignore that. Clap clap.

Funny how I can just replace cat wit any animal. ANY. That was pretty weak too. Clap clap.



Wow once again, clap clap for saying some shit that had nothing to do with the article, the situation or the discussion. The tigers lived in a national park, not a cage. Having said that, if I was ever to punch you in the face, Im sure you'd want to punch me back. The tiger killed a girl, it was killed in return. Same thing.

National park, cage...Restricted, either way....N maybe I am bein too picky wit tha national park thing, let's say tha tiger likes livin in tha national park...Does it hav a choice to b trained? No...Yes, I do feel we hav tha right to train animals, but if tha animal has an outburst, I wouldn't blame it cuz u should b fully aware as a trainer that this will happen. Tiger killed a girl, it was killed in return. Let's b proud to take n destroy things that hav no sense of right or wrong.

Clap clap.


Rukas, when u hav an infant, I hope to God that if it pees on u, u don't pee back on him. Cuz he don't kno wat's right or wrong. But that doesn't matter does it, cuz he did it so he deserves to hav it done in return.
 
Rukas said:
^^ I worded what I said wrong, for that I appologize. No one said she "deserved it". they did however say she was dumb or stupid and should have known the tiger would kill her. That is not the case, she didnt know the tiger would kill her, and it is not her fault for being killed, it is the tigers fault and perhaps the parks fault.

The dog analogy stands, a tiger trained from birth is just as trained as a dog trained from birth; how many generations have been trained before it has no relevence on the current animal.



Certainly not. There is a solid reason why dogs, cats, hamsters and rabbits have been domesticated and tigers not. Look at a tiger and then look at a cat. When a tiger and a cat do the same thing, which is scratching you with it's claws, the cat pisses you off and the tiger rips you to pieces. That's why it's a stupid idea to try to train an animal like a tiger or a bear.

And i can't believe you said "how many generations have been trained before it has no relevence on the current animal.


Of course it does. You don't think domestication, and the influence thereof on an animal through the millennia, is passed on through the genes?


Furthermore, is it really the tigers fault? Strictly speaking it is, because the tiger killed the girl. But did the tiger intentionally kill the girl? Would the tiger realize the consequences of it's actions? Did it want to actually kill her or just make a statement that it was pissed off and they ought to leave it alone?

I don't know, you don't know either. But we both know that a tiger does not have the same conscious thinking that a human would have. So to therefore state "it is the tigers fault", suggesting the tiger knew the consequences of it's actions, and as such shouldn't have done what he did, is ludicrous :)

If i have to point an accusing finger at someone, it is at the persons who capture and "train" (or try to train) big ass predators and then let normal people take pictures with 'em.
 
Skillz said:
Rukas, when u hav an infant, I hope to God that if it pees on u, u don't pee back on him. Cuz he don't kno wat's right or wrong. But that doesn't matter does it, cuz he did it so he deserves to hav it done in return.

LMAO
that would be a hilarious headline
 
Skillz said:
Rukas, when u hav an infant, I hope to God that if it pees on u, u don't pee back on him. Cuz he don't kno wat's right or wrong. But that doesn't matter does it, cuz he did it so he deserves to hav it done in return.

Your post is so fucking ridicules im not even going to justify it with an in depth response. If you cant see the difference between my own child peeing on me and something or someone killing someone then I pity your future children. Having said that, if a trained animal peed on me I would beat it. If you peed on me, Id probably pee on you or just kick your ass.

I cant even believe you’d compare an infant baby peeing on someone to a tiger killing someone. LOL.
 
Duke said:
Certainly not. There is a solid reason why dogs, cats, hamsters and rabbits have been domesticated and tigers not. Look at a tiger and then look at a cat. When a tiger and a cat do the same thing, which is scratching you with it's claws, the cat pisses you off and the tiger rips you to pieces. That's why it's a stupid idea to try to train an animal like a tiger or a bear.

And i can't believe you said "how many generations have been trained before it has no relevence on the current animal.


Of course it does. You don't think domestication, and the influence thereof on an animal through the millennia, is passed on through the genes?

Not behavioral characteristics, no. Had a dog been born in the wild it would naturally become wild, yet born in captivity it is trained from an early age not to be wild. The same thing goes with Tigers, it doesn’t “know” how to be wild because it never has been. Its never had to hunt, ect ect. For this tiger, being around humans is normal because it has been around them for its whole life, it doesn’t know how to be free and doesn’t know how to be wild.


Furthermore, is it really the tigers fault? Strictly speaking it is, because the tiger killed the girl. But did the tiger intentionally kill the girl? Would the tiger realize the consequences of it's actions? Did it want to actually kill her or just make a statement that it was pissed off and they ought to leave it alone? [/quote[

Of course its the tigers fault. No one else did it, the tiger did it. Whether or not he wanted to kill her or just kiss her is irrelevant. Whether or not he had some sort of tiger rational is irrelevant. We're not discussing motive, we're discussing the act. Did the tiger kill the girl? Yes. Thus only the tiger can be held responsible. It didnt kill the girl by accident; it is the tigers fault. Now they are trying to find the reason WHY it attacked with the autopsy.

I don't know, you don't know either. But we both know that a tiger does not have the same conscious thinking that a human would have. So to therefore state "it is the tigers fault", suggesting the tiger knew the consequences of it's actions, and as such shouldn't have done what he did, is ludicrous :)

Well I assume that the tiger has been trained to be nice to humans and punished as a cub for scratching or biting, so he probably did know the consequences of his actions just like a dog that pees on the rug and then cowers in the corner knows it did wrong.

If i have to point an accusing finger at someone, it is at the persons who capture and "train" (or try to train) big ass predators and then let normal people take pictures with 'em.
Oh definitely, someone needs to be held responsible, better measures should have been taken. But because they werent, doesnt mean the tiger was right for attacking the girl.
 
Rukas said:
Your post is so fucking ridicules im not even going to justify it with an in depth response. If you cant see the difference between my own child peeing on me and something or someone killing someone then I pity your future children. Having said that, if a trained animal peed on me I would beat it. If you peed on me, Id probably pee on you or just kick your ass.

I cant even believe you’d compare an infant baby peeing on someone to a tiger killing someone. LOL.


Ur not goin to justify becuz u can not justify it. Tha point was tha difference between tha kid peein n tha tiger killin. Tha point is that they both don't kno wat's tha difference between right or wrong. If a trained animal peed on u, u'd beat it? Shows how much luv u hav for animals, no wonder ur tha only one wit hate for a tiger...Get ur azz kicked by a hampster back in tha day, cuzzin?

I wouldn't pee on u, I don't pee on ppl, I ain't R Kelly. U might b able to pee back on me if I did tho. Kick my azz? Na, mayne.

I can't believe u'd overlook my point. "LOL".

Skillz
 
Skillz said:
Wsup y'all

Tha girl wasn't stupid for takin a picture next to tha tiger. Rukas is right, tha place is just for that, takin a picture next to tha tiger. But I don't think it's right tho, tha ppl that own tha place r to blame, not tha girl.

But I mos definately disagree wit Rukas on tha killin tha tiger. That's just ridiculous to compare a tiger wit a human. Like above said, it's not like tha tiger knows its consequences.

So, neither tha girl or tha tiger is wrong. Above authority is. It's ridiculous to blame either of tha other 2 tho. Becuz, yes, tigers do hav their instinct and u can't blame em for bein cooped up n how he reacted. Killin tha tiger was mos definately wrong, n this "standard practice" is absurd. Especially since not every human gets killed when they kill, even tho they hav a conscience, but tha tiger lacks one so he must b killed for wat he lacks at birth. N tha girl isn't wrong, becuz it's a paid organization, she expects to b safe.

Peace
Skillz

a pedophil also cant control himself when it comes to little kids, would u still like him after putting his dick into your son's asshole?

so i agree with rukas
 

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