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That is the dumbest shit I've read in a while. Wow.
That is the dumbest shit I've read in a while. Wow.
This is so dumb I don't know where to begin
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I was going to rant but thankfully the article put it nicely
"This is just the latest example of how 2Pac's legacy as an 'activist' has become overstated in the 14 years since his death. 2Pac was a great rapper and compelling figure, but it is truly misguided to place Shakur on the level of real activists that literally led movements like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King and Marcus Garvey."
"This is just the latest example of how 2Pac's legacy as an 'activist' has become overstated in the 14 years since his death. 2Pac was a great rapper and compelling figure, but it is truly misguided to place Shakur on the level of real activists that literally led movements like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King and Marcus Garvey."
I think he had the potential to be on that level as an activist. I also think he had the potential to be one of the greatest actors of all time. But, just like so many other things he could have done, he never got the chance. It scares me that I am only a few years younger than Tupac was when he died.
He accomplished so much in his short lifespan.
He accomplished so much in his short lifespan.
2pac had an enormous potential. Actually I can't say that I've seen anyone THAT charismatic and specific as 2pac was since.. well since his death. But from all that we know nobody serious took him that serious as an activist. He wasn't yet dangerous at that time.
As much as we all love Pac, he wasn't any more an activist than any other rapper who writes socially conscious rap (like a Talib Kweli).
Pac would have had a long music career and a longer acting career. He almost surely would've branched out into businesses like Jay Z and Puffy have. I believe if he was alive today he would have a position similar to how people view Jay Z, probably even bigger than Jay currently is.
But hey, who knows how much more jail time was in his future, or if he would have lost focus and fallen off like a Snoop. Either way, he wasn't leading a political movement.
Pac would have had a long music career and a longer acting career. He almost surely would've branched out into businesses like Jay Z and Puffy have. I believe if he was alive today he would have a position similar to how people view Jay Z, probably even bigger than Jay currently is.
But hey, who knows how much more jail time was in his future, or if he would have lost focus and fallen off like a Snoop. Either way, he wasn't leading a political movement.
It sounds like someone from a forum has written a book, not a graduate from Columbia lol.
Anyway I don't think Pac's political influence came as much from his music as his interviews and speeches. I think if he had lived and was able to mature to the point where he wasn't so conflicted he would have been more influential in the sense of MLK, Malcolm etc. But to compare him to them at all on a real level is silly, those guys had to put up with ALOT and they did it for years at a time where there was no freedom or accountability for injustices against Black people. But we should remember Tupac was only 25 and the possibilities of what could have been have no limit.
Anyway I don't think Pac's political influence came as much from his music as his interviews and speeches. I think if he had lived and was able to mature to the point where he wasn't so conflicted he would have been more influential in the sense of MLK, Malcolm etc. But to compare him to them at all on a real level is silly, those guys had to put up with ALOT and they did it for years at a time where there was no freedom or accountability for injustices against Black people. But we should remember Tupac was only 25 and the possibilities of what could have been have no limit.
its a combination i agree with parts of Morris's post (welcome back)
but Pac had greater position than Talib has or ever will, and it was in some ways more evdence in interviews/speeches
just one example is Thug Life
Death RowEast
I always remember with that 1 with his interview 3 days before hes shot in Vegas "...to feed every person in New York"
the interviews labeled as the "last intervew" how he was intertwining rap and politics with money and power not just ideas 2 me it seemed like this
but Pac had greater position than Talib has or ever will, and it was in some ways more evdence in interviews/speeches
just one example is Thug Life
Death RowEast
I always remember with that 1 with his interview 3 days before hes shot in Vegas "...to feed every person in New York"
the interviews labeled as the "last intervew" how he was intertwining rap and politics with money and power not just ideas 2 me it seemed like this
OMG. EDouble, that made sense!!!! I can't believe it. Maybe its the subject but wow.. I'm stunned.
And I agree, Talib is comparable on subject but not on passion. I don't think there is a rapper out there who had as much as Pac had.
And I agree, Talib is comparable on subject but not on passion. I don't think there is a rapper out there who had as much as Pac had.
Lyrics and ideas don't make you an activist. It's impossible to compare Talib to 2pac.
You could listen to 2pac rhyming about "fucking bitches"" and that would touch you more than Talib's deepest lyrics, as strange as it seems.
On a totally flat level - analyzing 2pac's lyrics as they were without hearing him I'd think they suck big time lol.
You could listen to 2pac rhyming about "fucking bitches"" and that would touch you more than Talib's deepest lyrics, as strange as it seems.
On a totally flat level - analyzing 2pac's lyrics as they were without hearing him I'd think they suck big time lol.
^"lyric analyzing" is overrated
only could be used in comparing lyrical rhymers
He wasnt an profesional activist" but its like he was just an entertainer "this is what I do for a living, I make records. This is not my real life" but he was both just that and more than that thru his life its a paradox if thats the word of the greats in any field, it'll never be as simple as one dimension, like most people
only could be used in comparing lyrical rhymers
He wasnt an profesional activist" but its like he was just an entertainer "this is what I do for a living, I make records. This is not my real life" but he was both just that and more than that thru his life its a paradox if thats the word of the greats in any field, it'll never be as simple as one dimension, like most people
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