The "Say No To Drugs" Thread!

[LAZARU$]

x does cause braind damge,burnsholes in the dome man.look it up.releases too much seratonin or some shit it's called,the shit that makes you happy.could cause loss of emotion,skitzen,depression,retardism,death,and loss of peniale function

 

[stefanwzyga]

x does cause braind damge,burnsholes in the dome man.look it up.releases too much seratonin or some shit it's called,the shit that makes you happy.could cause loss of emotion,skitzen,depression,retardism,death,and loss of peniale function

Listen i've herd all this shit before, its fuckin nonsence!

The reason i know, is cuz i've lived it!

Doctors told us smoking was ok, then they said it was'nt.

Doctors told us salmon was great for you, now they say it aint.

If you go to several doctors you'll get several different answers!

When i was a kid i fell of a bridge an broke my foot an damaged nerves, years later i was still having problems with it so i went back to the doc, he said i needed pins in my foot an toes, i was in a different city for a while an went to the doc there, an he said i was needing a toe amputated, i came back to my home town an the doc there said i was needing a joint replacement an thats what i got done! the moral of the story here is doctors have different opinions! so i aint gonna listen to someone tell me anything about the effect of X or speed when i have a decade experience myself! an they have none! like i keep on saying my friends have been poppin X since 1987 without any problems whatsoever.

Pittsey spoke on heroin, i never cuz i dont know nothing about it, i aint ever tried it, so i aint gonna speak on it.

I've had coke loads of time an i've smoked crack plenty times, but not enough to think i know a lot about it.

I do think i kow a lot about the effect of X an speed though, threw a very long habbit.

 

[Pittsey]

Everyone is quoting medical knowledge on the effects of drug abuse. stefanwzyga is the only one who us using his own experiences rather than that of which he reads or news reports he watches.

I'm not saying X doesn't give you brain damage, but I have never seen it. And I know 100's of heavy users. 12 pills a night people, who took that amount 2 times a week for 8 years. They are still fine and people who don't know them would have no idea.

Doctors always cover their bases, check any prescription medicines and their list of side effects. Aspirin can apparently kill you. Anyone heard of any aspirin related deaths. I know someone who takes 12 when he has a headache (he's a bit mad). I don't think you can even OD on it.

The only people I know whose brains have been affected by drugs are hash smokers!!!

All drugs can kill you, just in different ways. Make your own opinion on drugs. The best way is through your own experiences. And remember a lot of horror stories are told to keep you away from drugs. I always believe the best way is to be honest, overwise you end up doing drugs and realising you've been lied to. So you progress and the next thing you know you're a crak or brown addict.

And the most addictive drug I've seen. The one most people spend a frotune on and seem to get hooked on is Cocaine. Most people get scared of the words Heroin and Crack. but seem to think Cocaine is OK. Then they think is cool to snort lines. Next thing they do it every night. Maybe that's just my area, but from what I've seen it's true.

 

[killahill187um]

ive seen too many speed heads and they r totally fuckd up
and tell me how its nonsence.peace

Cuz i was a 10 year speed freak! i know the ins an outs of taking speed, an it dont really fuck you up at all! like i keep saying but aint getting any answers explain the symptoms? they might look completly fucked up chewing there lips an shit! the might talk super fast, but speed dont fuck with your mind, just like X dont!

Your comment was speed is shit an fucks everyone up, that is absolute bollocks! a lot of peeps dont like speed, a lot of peeps do, i aint ever met anyone who has fucked up on speed! according to you everyone who takes it is fucked up

What i thinks funny hear is im arguing with people about drugs that they have next to no experience in yet im an ex junkie an i aint proud of that but its true an they think im full of shit!! [/QUOTE]
i dont have much experience bout speed ive done it couple of times and thats not my thing but it can ruin your life or am i wrong.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Cuz i was a 10 year speed freak! i know the ins an outs of taking speed, an it dont really fuck you up at all! like i keep saying but aint getting any answers explain the symptoms? they might look completly fucked up chewing there lips an shit! the might talk super fast, but speed dont fuck with your mind, just like X dont!

Your comment was speed is shit an fucks everyone up, that is absolute bollocks! a lot of peeps dont like speed, a lot of peeps do, i aint ever met anyone who has fucked up on speed! according to you everyone who takes it is fucked up

What i thinks funny hear is im arguing with people about drugs that they have next to no experience in yet im an ex junkie an i aint proud of that but its true an they think im full of shit!!

i dont have much experience bout speed ive done it couple of times and thats not my thing but it can ruin your life or am i wrong.[/QUOTE]

People in the sixties we're taking loads of speed in tablet form! and they went on to have perfectly normal lifes.

Speed aint a big deal at all, im sure its still only a B class drug.

My best friend is a complete speed freak, he works off shore so he has plenty cash, he necks any drug apart from smack, he'll take a half ounce of quality speed over a couple of nights, without any problems whatsoever! he has been doing it since 1989.


If someone came on hear telling negative storys about hash, i would have to agree that hash really can fuck your life up!

I think hash can be a positive thing in life if not used 24/7, if your like what i was like for half my life, smoking morning noon an night all day everyday it can really mess you up! always on a downer, no get up an go,thinking things are a lot worse than they are, thinking to much about things, maybe not confident in your own skin, major paranoia,never going out, memory loss,being angry an moody.


The problem full time hash smokers have is they are never straight enough of the time to see that its hash causing all the problems! this is no word of a lie i was a heavy hash smoker for 10 years( i smoked longer than that) and in those ten years i can honestly say that i probally spent no more than 20 days without being stoned! and the only reason that was cuz of drouts.

 

[Pittsey]

If someone came on hear telling negative storys about hash, i would have to agree that hash really can fuck your life up!

I think hash can be a positive thing in life if not used 24/7, if your like what i was like for half my life, smoking morning noon an night all day everyday it can really mess you up! always on a downer, no get up an go,thinking things are a lot worse than they are, thinking to much about things, maybe not confident in your own skin, major paranoia,never going out, memory loss,being angry an moody.

My Dad knows people who have been smoking for 40 years. I've seen them. They are fucked up. Speak very slowly. That is brain damage.

 

[Preach]

i don't really consider hash and weed drugs lol. i've read what people have said about it saying it's among the few drugs that actually causes permanent brain damage, but i dunno. i still think of hash as a quasi-drug. i wouldn't call it drug more than i would alcohol. i used to smoke hash but quit. not because i wanted to though.

i'd like to challenge people whose only argument against hash and weed is that it ruins your physical health. what if your mental health puts you in a place where you no longer care for your physical health, while being intoxicated with weed actually makes you feel good about life? is it then wrong or bad somehow to do it?

i never really felt paranoia and depression while i was high. only when i was sober. the come-down is indeed a bitch, even if not comparable to clinical drugs. some of my best experiences, ever, come from when i was high. like this one time, i hooked up with a friend in town after a rather nice vorspiel and we went down at the docks and chilled and smoked and talked shit. then we went back into town and stopped by this hotel and went inside and we ended up talking to this 50-year-old clerk about the youth today for an hour - and i was having a fucking ball. and me and another friend once watched this clip of a guy getting his ass beat by like 4 people and suddenly i just bursted into laughter cause of this one swing that made the dude that got his ass kicked fall to the ground. so because of my laughter my friend started laughing and we kept on laughing and playing that shit on repeat for half an hour. he recorded the whole thing on his cell so after a while we played that on repeat and we ended up laughing our asses off for like 2 hours. i felt physically tired because i laughed so much. 80% of the time i had breathing problems lol. it was the best shit ever. that could never happen when i'm sober.

generally, i enjoy life more when i'm high. i haven't smoked for about 3-4 months now, and i can't smoke for at least another two years. i've been feeling depressed and the result is that even though i used to love to get to know new people and just kick it, i don't anymore. most of the time when i go out i put a mask on my face. i don't want to anymore so i just don't go out. i actually seek solitude. i quit drinking because that makes me feel even more depressed. i do it occasionally, but it's rare. i used to feel depressed from time to time before i started smoking hash but it wasn't as bad as it is now. so maybe i did get affected by smoking? i dunno, all i know is i can't wait to get high again.. in two years lol.

 

[The.Menace]

Listen i've herd all this shit before, its fuckin nonsence!

The reason i know, is cuz i've lived it!

Everyone is quoting medical knowledge on the effects of drug abuse. stefanwzyga is the only one who us using his own experiences rather than that of which he reads or news reports he watches.

Still it's ridiculous. Just because he doesn't feel like X is causing brain damage, it doesn't mean it's healthy. Some people can deal with weed, some can't - jsut because stefan feels like it doesn't have negativ effects is no prove at all.
Like someone said above, there are medical reports about long term X use and their consequenses. I remember those pictures where there alomst where holes in people brains. You say you don't see it - well, you can't look at your own brain I guess, therefor you can't tell. You might not feel like it did something to your mind, but that again doesn't mean that you're right. it's like my homeboys that told me for a long time that they aren't addicted to cocaine - that's how they felt, but it still was far from the truth. maybe you were lucky - but that ain't no reason to deny negativ effects of X.

Explain what you mean by saying they got off track? they spent a lot of money? off course, they we're moody an pissed off for a few days after? yes, they had sore teeth an sore jaws? yes.

Stefan, stop the ignorance or you'll get me pissed off. No if I say off track I mean off track and I ain't talkin about money or moody. I talk about addictions and death - I ain't gonna get into that but stop acting as if I was a child and knew nothing about all that. If I say off track I mean it.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Still it's ridiculous. Just because he doesn't feel like X is causing brain damage, it doesn't mean it's healthy. Some people can deal with weed, some can't - jsut because stefan feels like it doesn't have negativ effects is no prove at all.
Like someone said above, there are medical reports about long term X use and their consequenses. I remember those pictures where there alomst where holes in people brains. You say you don't see it - well, you can't look at your own brain I guess, therefor you can't tell. You might not feel like it did something to your mind, but that again doesn't mean that you're right. it's like my homeboys that told me for a long time that they aren't addicted to cocaine - that's how they felt, but it still was far from the truth. maybe you were lucky - but that ain't no reason to deny negativ effects of X.

Do you think its easy to tell if there is damage to a brain? im a fight fan, i know of loads of fighters who have been banned by the british boxing board of control for what they think is brain damage. then went overseas an got there liscence no problem at all!


Stefan, stop the ignorance or you'll get me pissed off. No if I say off track I mean off track and I ain't talkin about money or moody. I talk about addictions and death - I ain't gonna get into that but stop acting as if I was a child and knew nothing about all that. If I say off track I mean it.

So what your saying is X = addictions and death there you have it kids The.menace giving it to you straight!! you really havent the foggiest do you?

Do you know what the rave scene was all about? what it was all about was in 1987 acid house started, thats when everyone would go to fields an drop acid an dance around like freaks! then in around 1989 the X came on the go and the rave scene was born! that was 16 years ago! dont you think if X done any damage that hospitals in the uk would be full with brain damaged X users?

All your doing is preaching bullshit, im telling peeps about my situation an everyone i know of, an everyone i've ever herd of's experience's.

There are i think its 250.000 deaths in the uk every year threw smoking related diseases, drink kills god knows how many each year, an most years nobody dies threw poppin X yet your getting all paranoid about it.

Do you take X your self ?

 

[The.Menace]

So what your saying is X = addictions and death

Go back, read my posts and quote me. Where did I say that.

 

[stefanwzyga]

No if I say off track I mean off track and I ain't talkin about money or moody. I talk about addictions and death

We're talking about X are we not?

You also said when talking about yourself an your friends "we know it causes brain damage"

Explain please?

And i ask again do you pop X?

An by the way you said just cuz stef said so an so dont mean its healthy! i never said it was healthy!

 

[The.Menace]

We're talking about X are we not?

Some other homeboys got off track when the started to fuck with E

That's what I said. I never said E causes death, I said E was where some of my homeboys got off track and it ended in addictions and death. I never said E = death and if you have read my posts, you'd know.

You also said when talking about yourself an your friends "we know it causes brain damage"
Explain please?

There are medical reports about long term E use that show that E is damaging your brain. Use google if you want to know more about it.

And i ask again do you pop X?

No I ain't interested in chemical drugs these days, it's all about nature man.

An by the way you said just cuz stef said so an so dont mean its healthy! i never said it was healthy!

so do you addmit that E does cause damage or at least can cause damage in certain cases? If so we have nopthing to discuss about. Like I said before, maybe you really don't feel any effects of your previous lifestyle - many people I know take X every now and then and have no problem with it - but like with every other drug - some can't deal with it and suffer under the negatv effects.

 

[stefanwzyga]

so do you addmit that E does cause damage or at least can cause damage in certain cases? if so we have have nothing to discuss about.


No i said it was'nt healthy, not eating for a couple of days aint healthy.

Like I said before, maybe you really don't feel any effects of your previous lifestyle - many people I know take X every now and then and have no problem with it - but like with every other drug - some can't deal with it and suffer under the negatv effects.[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ, i aint ever herd of anyone who suffered negative effects from poppin X, as in brain damage, or anything else for that matter.

 

[k69atie]

whats whizz?

speed, it's gross

 

[stefanwzyga]

You said x is where you homeboys got off track an ended in addictions and death you know yourself thats nonsense, explain what you mean, do you mean they went on to smoke crack or smack or pcp if so that aint got anything to do with X

I think what the problem here is, your friends have been poppin X since something like waaaay back in 2002! an now think there experts! when in reality your friends know next to nothing! but act like they know everything about X and the effects, an there panicking an getting paranoid.

 

[The.Menace]

I beg to differ, i aint ever herd of anyone who suffered negative effects from poppin X, as in brain damage, or anything else for that matter.

Aiight, since you aren't able 2 use google or you're too lazy to do so, I spent 10 minutes to search a couple of links.

http://www.talktofrank.com/azofdrugs/E/Ecstasy.aspx

There have been over 200 ecstasy related deaths in the UK since 1996.

http://www.zoot2.com/justthefacts/clubdrugs/ecstasy.asp

Ecstasy has been involved in deaths due to severe dehydration and heat exhaustion, abnormal heart beat, and liver failure.

Long-term use seems to damage the brain's ability to think and regulate emotion, memory, sleep, and pain.

http://parent.aadac.com/addiction_info/ecstasy_abcs.asp

Using Ecstasy for a long time may cause permanent chemical changes in the brain

http://www.narconon.ca/Ecstasy.htm

http://www.ycdrugcourt.org/ecstasy.htm

http://wwwfac.worcester.edu/security/ecstasy.htm

You said x is where you homeboys got off track an ended in addictions and death you know yourself thats nonsense, explain what you mean, do you mean they went on to smoke crack or smack or pcp if so that aint got anything to do with X

Aiight, one more time for you. I said taking E is where he got off track. That doesn't mean I say he died cause of X, but that's still the point where he got off track. That means when he started takin E it changed his lifestyle over the years, there were other drugs too. That's why I didn't say E fucked his life up, but E was the point where he got off track and therefor has something to do with it. If you don't understand that I seriously doubt that your habit of taking E don't effect your ability to think.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Aiight, one more time for you. I said taking E is where he got off track. That doesn't mean I say he died cause of X, but that's still the point where he got off track. That means when he started takin E it changed his lifestyle over the years, there were other drugs too. That's why I didn't say E fucked his life up, but E was the point where he got off track and therefor has something to do with it. If you don't understand that I seriously doubt that your habit of taking E don't effect your ability to think.[/QUOTE]

Ok so he probally smoked weed before he done X, so why not just say he got off track when he started smoking hash?

For you to say comments like that makes every X head laugh there ass's off!

I know people have died droppin X, you aint telling me anything i dont know, you do relise that F.R.A.N.K has to really be very safe an tell everything that could possiblly happen, which is why they use words like "related" and "it seems to" and "possiblly" but which obviously wont?

Im about threw with this conversation, its like an ex boxer talking to a guy who aint ever boxed, an the guy who aint ever boxed trying to explain to the boxer how to box!

 

[The.Menace]

Nice how you ignore the links - I never wanted to talk about me and my homeboy's story so fuck that - I know it, cause I was there aiight - But let's not talk about one person but about the general effects - and if you check the links, E might do harm and all I want is people to know that - u to accept that. Take whatever you want, it's your life - but know the risks before u do so.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Nice how you ignore the links - I never wanted to talk about me and my homeboy's story so fuck that - I know it, cause I was there aiight - But let's not talk about one person but about the general effects - and if you check the links, E might do harm and all I want is people to know that - u to accept that. Take whatever you want, it's your life - but know the risks before u do so.

Like i said i dont do any drugs whatsoever,i dont even smoke! now if i was still taking X i would have a reason to defend it an be igronant about the effects, i dont have a reason to defend it, im being honest.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Nice how you ignore the links -

I never its the same shit they have been rattling of for years!

A couple of the links are on about snorting X an injecting! kinda shows what the fuck there all about