The greatness of Alexander Rodriguez

[Butt Rubber]

go jays

lets hope they finish in 2nd place this year

 

[Bachaveli]

hahahahaha wow, did you ignore everything I said? 2004 ALDS? 2000 ALDS? Every great player can have a bad playoff series

is Vlad Guerrero not clutch after last year's ALCS?

Ok since you wanna be so picky.Lets see,after first three wins of the series,what had A-Rod done to help Yankees come back?Not much.He went 2 for 17 since then.Is that clutch?Not in my book.

Who will catch up to who? Jeter will catch up to A-rod in HRs and RBIs?? Jeter is 2 years older than A-rod and 250+ home runs behind.

Ok,he might not catch up A-Rod's HR stat but he certainly will catch up RBI'.Hits,runs,sb,rbi's,average, and doubles all are more then enough to go ahead and place Jeter in front of A-Rod as greatest SS ever.Have i still not mentioned Jeter has three rings on his belt?Besides,A-Rod's career will be looked much smaller then Jeter's.That won't play in his advantage.

Jeter prior to about 2003 was actually a below average defensive shortstop. Go to baseball-reference.com and look at how horrible his range is compared to the league average.

If you really think Jeter is better defensively than A-rod was at SS then you're just being delusional here.

See Americasmostwanted,Guy does know how to discredit his own player when needed and is very good at doing so.

I'd take Jeter at SS regardless.While he might have made few more errors then A-Rod,he rarely makes erros that change the game in his teams disadvantage.He is known for spectacular plays.Who can forget that assist play against A's.Or diving into the crowd against Red Sox.Has A-Rod done that?No,hes too busy worrying about his uniform not to get too messy.Why didn't A-Rod didn't go after that ball?(No,he was not far from the ball.The ball ended up in the third base crowd and He is a third baseman so he was more closer, but Jeter went after it not A-Rod.)Yes,thats the difference between Jeter and A-Rod.And thats what i mean being jack ass and wanting others to do the dirty job for you.

You're right. However, Ty Cobb beat up handicapped hecklers and slashed people with spikes in his shoes. Ted Williams was a loner and a miserable team mate by many accounts. Babe Ruth once urinated on a team mate. Mickey Mantle was a drunk. Mike Schmidt abused amphedemines. Hank Aaron once took speed to try to get out of a slump. Tris Speaker was a KKK member.

There's dirt out there on the character of EVERY baseball player, many times outweighing A-rod's little ball-slap.

I don't know what others have done in the past.But that play by A-Rod will go down in history as one of the embarrassing plays a athlete could do for his team.

Good thing nobodies asking you to vote for the MVP selection

Actually,they are.I get a email from mlb.com almost every week.They want my vote.

 

[Butt Rubber]

Ok since you wanna be so picky.Lets see,after first three wins of the series,what had A-Rod done to help Yankees come back?Not much.He went 2 for 17 since then.Is that clutch?Not in my book.

who else WAS clutch for the yankees in those games? the entire team sucked, thats why they got their asses whooped so bad

Ok,he might not catch up A-Rod's HR stat but he certainly will catch up RBI'.Hits,runs,sb,rbi's,average, and doubles all are more then enough to go ahead and place Jeter in front of A-Rod as greatest SS ever.Have i still not mentioned Jeter has three rings on his belt?Besides,A-Rod's career will be looked much smaller then Jeter's.That won't play in his advantage.

Is Scott Broscious a better player than Ted Williams because he has all those rings? no. rings are a team accomplishment, not a sign of personal talent.

Jeter (who hits 2nd) will NEVER catch up to a-rod (who hits 4th-5th) in RBI's, are you a fucking idiot? (i think i know the answer). A-rod has 1330 career RBI, Jeter isn't even at 900 despite being 2 years older. What the fuck makes you think that?

Jeter and A-rod are pretty even at stolen bases, but regardless of who edges eachother out in this stat it doesn't really matter

A-rod has more doubles and is a much better power hitter than Jeter. Again, you're fooling yourself by your stupidity.

A-rod is ahead of Jeter in runs scored as well, although a major part of Jeter's runs scored and A-rod's RBI's is having A-rod hitting behind Jeter. Either way they both scored mad runs.


And look at how many times A-rod has lead the league in catagories compared to Jeter. A-rod has lead the league in a catagory 51 times, and been in the top 10 160 times. Jeter? lead the league in 6 things, been in the top 10 only 91 times.

And how can you have Jeter ahead of Honus Wagner? Do you smoke crack?

www.baseball-reference.com

See Americasmostwanted,Guy does know how to discredit his own player when needed and is very good at doing so.

I'd take Jeter at SS regardless.While he might have made few more errors then A-Rod,he rarely makes erros that change the game in his teams disadvantage.He is known for spectacular plays.Who can forget that assist play against A's.Or diving into the crowd against Red Sox.

Jeter does have intangibles, but NOBODY else in baseball does that like Jeter. Why single out one man (arod)?

[qoute]Has A-Rod done that?No,hes too busy worrying about his uniform not to get too messy.Why didn't A-Rod didn't go after that ball?(No,he was not far from the ball.The ball ended up in the third base crowd and He is a third baseman so he was more closer, but Jeter went after it not A-Rod.)Yes,thats the difference between Jeter and A-Rod.And thats what i mean being jack ass and wanting others to do the dirty job for you.

A-rod gets up every morning at 6am and sprints up and down his stairs. nobody fucking prepares harder for baseball and works out as hard as A-rod. You don't even stick to the truth now, you just act as if he goofs off all day and shows up to the stadium and just picks up a bat and glove.

I don't know what others have done in the past.But that play by A-Rod will go down in history as one of the embarrassing plays a athlete could do for his team.

funny how only you seem to be bringing this up right now.

I don't think you can put him in the same class as the 1919 White Sox

Actually,they are.I get a email from mlb.com almost every week.They want my vote.

was this a joke?

 

[tennis_dog]

bach is like a little fairy, sprinkling his fag fairy dust of ignorance in every thread he goes....

 

[AmerikazMost]

Championship rings are a ridulous way to measure greatness and ability for individual players. Teams win championships - not players.

A championship ring is a measure of success, not greatness. Some of the greatest players are the least successful. A-Rod, thus far, is one of them.

Is Tom Brady one of the greatest QB's ever because he has two Super Bowl MVP's and three rings? Hell no. He's just lucky he was drafted by a great team with a great coach. If he played for the Bills those three seasons, he wouldn't have won a single one.

 

[tennis_dog]

but he still woulda thrown 4000 yards with those shittty receivers..how'd he do it last year?? branch alone??? nah...he just knows how to throw..


bach lives in durkha-durkha-stan...so they dont know football there....or do they, bach?

 

[Butt Rubber]

apparently they don't teach math over there because he clearly doesn't understand baseball stats

 

[Bachaveli]

who else WAS clutch for the yankees in those games? the entire team sucked, thats why they got their asses whooped so bad

I'm not talking about others.I'm talking about A-Rod.Just because others couldn't hit in that last four games,that doesn't give A-Rod's poor performance an excuse to not perfom himself.

Jeter (who hits 2nd) will NEVER catch up to a-rod (who hits 4th-5th) in RBI's, are you a fucking idiot? (i think i know the answer). A-rod has 1330 career RBI, Jeter isn't even at 900 despite being 2 years older. What the fuck makes you think that?

Jeter and A-rod are pretty even at stolen bases, but regardless of who edges eachother out in this stat it doesn't really matter

A-rod has more doubles and is a much better power hitter than Jeter. Again, you're fooling yourself by your stupidity.

A-rod is ahead of Jeter in runs scored as well, although a major part of Jeter's runs scored and A-rod's RBI's is having A-rod hitting behind Jeter. Either way they both scored mad runs.

Hello?

We're comparing SS's here.Jeter's stats at SS and A-Rod's stats at SS in his SS days.A-Rod doesn't play SS anymore does he?So why you bringing his tottal career RBI stats for?Its irrelevant.So is your argument.

A-Rod has played 9 seasons at SS.Thats it.In those 9 seasons these are his stats:
Hits=1535
Runs=1009
RBI=990
SB=177
2B=285

Jeter has played AND counting 11 seasons at SS.Here are his stats:
Hits=2119
Runs=1256
RBI=847
SB=244
2B=341

Its not even close.Jeter is trailing in RBI's by 143 but i think its safe to say he'll cover that before hes career is over.

So again,let me repeat myself.We're comparing two SS's here.Not Jeter the SS vs. A-Rod the SS/3B.A-Rod's 3B stats doesn't apply to the argument.I thought you the baseball head that you claim to be one,would figure this much out.

A-rod gets up every morning at 6am and sprints up and down his stairs. nobody fucking prepares harder for baseball and works out as hard as A-rod. You don't even stick to the truth now, you just act as if he goofs off all day and shows up to the stadium and just picks up a bat and glove.

lmao.

was this a joke?

Certainly not.

 

[Butt Rubber]

I'm not talking about others.I'm talking about A-Rod.Just because others couldn't hit in that last four games,that doesn't give A-Rod's poor performance an excuse to not perfom himself.

Which is why he's not perfect.

However, you have no right to single out A-rod for that series. Where was Jeter?

We're comparing SS's here.Jeter's stats at SS and A-Rod's stats at SS in his SS days.A-Rod doesn't play SS anymore does he?So why you bringing his tottal career RBI stats for?Its irrelevant.So is your argument.

A-Rod has played 9 seasons at SS.Thats it.In those 9 seasons these are his stats:
Hits=1535
Runs=1009
RBI=990
SB=177
2B=285

Jeter has played AND counting 11 seasons at SS.Here are his stats:
Hits=2119
Runs=1256
RBI=847
SB=244
2B=341

Its not even close.Jeter is trailing in RBI's by 143 but i think its safe to say he'll cover that before hes career is over.

So again,let me repeat myself.We're comparing two SS's here.Not Jeter the SS vs. A-Rod the SS/3B.A-Rod's 3B stats doesn't apply to the argument.I thought you the baseball head that you claim to be one,would figure this much out.

so if you're only counting A-rod's SS stats, OFCOURSE Jeter will have better totals, thats because he has 2 years on him.

Thats like saying "play A has 5 home runs in 500 at-bats, player B has 4 home runs in 4 at-bats. player A must be a better home run hitter".

Thats why batting average's are more impressive than overall hit totals.

This is like explaining baseball to a 5 year old for crying out loud.

lmao.

If only A-rod had the same dedication that you have to your job at Mcdonalds

Certainly not.

So you mean those same emails they send to everyone who ever signs up at MLB.com to vote for anything?

You're real special Bach.

 

[Bachaveli]

Which is why he's not perfect.

Didn't said he was.

However, you have no right to single out A-rod for that series. Where was Jeter?

Again,i'm not talking about Jeter.I'm talking about A-Rod.If you're so desperate to find that out open a new thread and ask that question then.

so if you're only counting A-rod's SS stats, OFCOURSE Jeter will have better totals, thats because he has 2 years on him.

Well,duhh......Of course you only count A-Rod's SS stats and of course Jeter will have better total stats.Why would you count 3B stats as SS stats.The numbers he put up as SS stays there where he left of.And the numbers hes putting up now is looked at as 3B position player.

This is like explaining baseball to a 5 year old for crying out loud.

Oh i'm sure it is to you.Why don't you ask me what is it like for me to hear from you?

If only A-rod had the same dedication that you have to your job at Mcdonalds

No,far from having one.But i'll say this though,If i only had the same dedication that you have here moding the net world and guarding your baseball.

So you mean those same emails they send to everyone who ever signs up at MLB.com to vote for anything?

Yep,those ones.

You're real special Bach.

Yea i guess so.

 

[Butt Rubber]

because A-rod spend the majority of his career at SS

do you not count Cal Ripken's stats as a 3rd-bagger when ranking him?

Either way, Honus Wagner, John Henry Lloyd, A-rod and Arky Vaugn > Jeter

Look at Stan Musial, he spent half his time at 1st base and half in the outfield, he's still considered one of the best outfielders ever

A-rod sacrificed his value as a shortstop to win a championship and take up a position he hadn't played before. that takes heart.

 

[Bachaveli]

Is A-Rod dead?No,hes still alive and playing.Why you talking as if A-Rod's career is over.(Maybe it is).So no,he did not spend most of his career at SS.He spend 9 years at SS.Hes on his third season as 3B at age of 31.I'm sure he'll play at least until at age of 37.That would make nine seasons at SS and another nine at 3B.Thats two long different careers.

Thats very weak of you to say such boloney.Any average baseball fan would laugh at that if they have heard that logic.

A-Rod's sacrifice to play at 3B has nothing to do with being the greatest SS.Thats just your way of wanting to gain some points for the argument.

When their careers are over Jeter SS > A-Rod SS.

 

[Butt Rubber]

so is Stan Musial not as good an outfielder to you as Bernie Williams because Stan spent half his career at 1st base so this totals are split up

 

[Bachaveli]

lol You really are stubborn.You know just as well as i do your argument that A-Rod's numbers should not be split into two is idiotic.Your just saying that to win over the argument.There is no way come ten years from now people will say A-Rod hit all those HR's and RBI's from SS position.I've even heard the reporter Peter Gammons or something like that say A-Rod might not be the best SS hitter becuase he won't have a chance to put up HR's from SS position because he now plays at 3B.And i think couple of years ago,A-Rod was close to some SS milestone stat and Joe Torre wanted him to play some SS to reach that milestone with SS position.No way,no,you can't put as one career.

 

[tennis_dog]

a-rod only has 3 years, including this one, at 3B...other than that he was a SS..you erase these past two years, A-rod really hasnt lost much stats..sure the hitting stats...but has his fielding percentage changed? he's still good, no matter where he goes.... no one has an argument against a-rod not being someone we talk about 15 years from now...whether it be for his good baseball, or his 250 million dollar contract.... a-rod will not retire a "nobody"

 

[Bachaveli]

These are the type of posts of yours that i don't get.What is the point of your post?Cause as far as i see you didn't say YES Jeter is better SS or NO A-Rod is.Neither did you said anything new that wasn't already said before.

 

[Butt Rubber]

tennisdog, may I ask why you're member status is now set to female?

did you have any operations in the last week?

and go a-rod

 

[Bachaveli]

lol.You know what i smell.I smell nail polish part 2 chapter.Call me crazy but watch soon or the later something odd is gonna be revealed just like with nail polish.I've always found tennis dog a odd/weird person.Besides the arguments we've had.No,not that.But just in generally speaking i always thought something is up with this guy.Like i said this could be nail polish part 2.We all know how that chapter ended.lol.Lets hope this one has a little twist to it so we dont get bored witnessing the same episode.

And go Jeter, the captain.

 

[Bachaveli]

You're so way off line not only playing guessing games as to who i am,where i live,and what im about but the disrespectful level is so way off line that im suprised they kept you here this long.

Nothin that you said or ever say towards me makes any sense thats why i don't bother to respond with such anger and piss as you did just now.

 

[tennis_dog]

because you dont understand english, stupid....in addition to baseball.... stop following american sports...you'll never be american...you'll be stuck in your little shithole country, and remain there till you die of starvation...please.... go out and hunt for food for your family, and leave this board alone....please.... no one likes you here.... no one... no one has taken you side, let alone supported you in your time of need...which is when im taking a big hot shit on you.... so do us all a favor....log off and just walk away..