stress leave from work????

[linx]

ok, bare with me here. im not really bitching about this, but I really wanna see how many of you work at a place that allows this shit. I can't count how many women have missed weeks (sometimes months) of work because of this bullshit.

its not that it even effects me or what I do, but its just annoying and pathetic in my opinion. you got a LOT of people out there who can't even get a job, yet you got these fucking slackers who have a job that wanna milk it and say they need weeks off from work cause they are "stressed".

WAKE UP! you idiots aren't the only ones working. if your think your job is that bad and it gets you stressed out, fucking quit and get a new job. stop being lazy bitches and shove your doctors notes up your asses. what makes it even worse is when its people that haven't even been here long. you fucking kidding me?

 

[Synful*Luv]

I'm not sure if they have that here or not. I hate that leaves from work can't happen for anything significant and not just certain things.

I.E.

Maternity leave, six months off to have a baby but I can't get 4 months off to study abroad? What's up with that? Me studying overseas is just as important to me as the pregnant person's delivery is to her, maybe more so. Plus, my leave would benefit the company, hers hinders the company because then she'll need more time off for Dr. appts and such.

Oh yeah, also all the time off allowed for people with kids annoy me. It's not fair that people who have children are constantly allowed to receive more time off than those without. Everyone get the same time and if they run out, oh well. That is so annoying.

 

[Devious]

well the difference is syn, maternity leave and things like that are necessary, and as far as i know, law protects that. after all you can't force a woman to have her baby and come back to work next week. and depending on the job, you can't have a 9 months pregnant woman on her feet all day working. with studying abroad, that is something you want to do, it is not a necessary thing and i don't know too many companies that would give you time off for that.

as for stress leave, well depending on the type of job, i can understand the necessity of it. some jobs are extremely stressful and without a break from it, you're liable to make mistakes or just crack up from all the stress lol. but if we're talking just your ordinary day job, stress leave is a joke and it's ridiculous that so many workplaces even have this as an option. everyone's still afraid of what happened at the post office lol.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Getting maternity leave is bullshit, back in my day women gave birth while still working, nothing like slave labour to get mother and daughter to bond.

 

[keco52]

I don't see the problem unless ppl are abusing it which I'm sure they are.

 

[Chronic]

I'm sure that some people are weak and use it as an excuse but you have to understand that some people have a different outlook on life. It's like the discussion of being a professional. Only an idiot would say it's unnecessary in regards to customer service and the way the business is run among staff but the word professional has a different meaning depending on the person. Some people apply it only when it might be a hazard to the business and some people have a 100% work 0% fun ethic. When you're at work, you leave your feelings at home and it's 100% business. Some people take their work incredibly serious because the concept of a career is important to them while for others a job is just a means to get money (to get food on the tabel or on the other end of the spectrum to buy all the luxuries). If a career is important to you all the bad stuff that comes with the job is a challenge and when you overcome there's a reward. If you don't care about it it's just one stressful situation after the other in between periods of purgatory. Personally 99% of all jobs would stress me out. I don't want to rant any further so in short: society set up a system I'm practically forced to live in and the things it offer usually stress me out. However if I want to survive I'm forced to take those offers and take the stress that comes with it. If that stress is detrimental to my health I'll damn well demand my stress leave. What may be an alright situation for you may be hell for another. Stress is underrated. The real type of stress anyway.

 

[Synful*Luv]

well the difference is syn, maternity leave and things like that are necessary, and as far as i know, law protects that. after all you can't force a woman to have her baby and come back to work next week. and depending on the job, you can't have a 9 months pregnant woman on her feet all day working. with studying abroad, that is something you want to do, it is not a necessary thing and i don't know too many companies that would give you time off for that.

as for stress leave, well depending on the type of job, i can understand the necessity of it. some jobs are extremely stressful and without a break from it, you're liable to make mistakes or just crack up from all the stress lol. but if we're talking just your ordinary day job, stress leave is a joke and it's ridiculous that so many workplaces even have this as an option. everyone's still afraid of what happened at the post office lol.

I just don't feel as if pregnant women should get special treatment, been having babies for centuries Push it out and keep it moving. And if they do get special treatment, then people should get special treatment around the board. This one guy couldn't get time off work to care for his mother in law because she wasn't immediate family. He should have gotten maternity leave type rights, lol. Stupid society.

 

[Devious]

sure, women have been having babies for centuries, but women in the workplace is still a relatively new thing in terms of history, so we're still learning to make accomodations for them. and i guess you'd have to talk to the women who got these maternity laws put in place. most workplaces are terrified of litigious employees so they keep all the bases covered. they'll still screw you if they get the chance (like your example of the guy who couldn't get time off for his mother-in-law) but when the law is involved, they'll fold like a paper airplane. i know you don't care much for kids but if you ever do decide to have one you might end up being grateful for those laws.

 

[roaches]

There's a pill for everything. Routine personality quirks are mental disorders. *shrug*

Of course, some people are really really stressed.

 

[Devious]

There's a pill for everything. Routine personality quirks are mental disorders. *shrug*

Of course, some people are really really stressed.

yeah like surgeons. does anyone want an operation from a stressed out surgeon on the verge of a breakdown? sometimes stress leave is necessary.

 

[linx]

its been a woman every time btw! customer service women. my girl works in that same department AND deals with 2 young boys at home. if anything, someone like her should be stressed out. while the customer service position is a lot of work (phone/paper work wise), there are plenty of other positions here that are just as bad, if not worse.

its ridiculous to me. im the type of person that's really NEVER stressed out, but I know not everyone is like that and that's fine. I have no problem with that. but if everyone in the building is dealing with the same amount of pressure as you, don't expect to pull that stress leave bullshit without me laughing at you. and im really not trying to offend any of them (obviously they aren't gonna read this, lol). its just obvious when people are abusing the privelage and when people really need it.

 

[Sebastian]

Syn, you make no sense!

On the one hand you put so much emphasis on the way parents are bringing up their kids in order to turn them into "good" members of society and on the other hand your are seriously complaining about women taking months off from work because they are having a baby? Give me a break!!

In regard to stress: Well, im no doctor and i dont know how they diagnose this problem. But i can somehow understand what you mean, Linx.

 

[Devious]

Syn, you make no sense!

On the one hand you put so much emphasize on the way parents are bringing up their kids in order to turn them into "good" members of society and on the other hand your are seriously complaining about women taking months off from work because they are having a baby? Give me a break!!

good point. one of the major factors in kids growing up "good" or "bad" is how much time they spend with their parents (if the parents themselves are good). with so many families where both parents are working, they don't have a lot of time to spend with their kids, to teach them right from wrong, and to raise them properly. too many kids these days are being raised by nannies and babysitters. any time a workplace is willing to spare a parent for their kid/s is a good thing imo. i understand that in some families both parents have to work to make ends meet. but there are too many times when one person makes enough money to support the whole family and yet both parents still work. who's taking care of the kid? sure they're at school when you're at work, but when you get home from work, you still have to cook dinner, clean up if the place needs it, and any other things that need to be done. are you still gonna have the energy after working all day and doing that to play with your kid? or help them with their homework? unfortunately in this situation most parents sit their kid/s in front of the tv so they can have some time to themselves, when they should be dedicating that time to their children. in a situation where both parents don't have to work i think one should be a stay at home parent and raise the kids.

i know i kinda went off topic there but working parents is a big issue for me since one day i might be one. maybe sooner than later.

 

[Chronic]

linx this is where I see a problem

its ridiculous to me. im the type of person that's really NEVER stressed out, but I know not everyone is like that and that's fine. I have no problem with that

but if everyone in the building is dealing with the same amount of pressure as you, don't expect to pull that stress leave bullshit without me laughing at you.

Even though you acknowledge that people are different you're still just thinking "if I can handle it, so can everyone else".

I'm not saying some people don't pussy out but I think if like you say you're the type of person to never be stressed then you don't really know what stress can do to a person. There's a different between short term stress (like when you see the words Lil Wayne) and long term stress (which actually influences you physically). Stress kills isn't just a fun slogan.

 

[roaches]

I smell a closet Republican!

 

[keco52]

Why does it really matter? I would be pissed if I had to pick up their slack...but if not...who cares? This reminds of those ppl that smile and chit chat with you then go and tell on you bc you left 15 minutes early.

If I can't leave early then NO ONE CAN!!!!

*edit
Stress leave does not neccassarily mean they are stressed from their work. I worked with a man that took care of his mom for 2 years while she had cancer. She died and he took stress leave. I would punch someone in the throat if I was going through that and they said "Man up...we're all dealing with the same amount of stress"

 

[raywaters11]

i usually agree a lot with syn, but this time i'm going the other way. having a baby is a huge thing for a woman, and you can really go right back to work for physical reasons. also, PTSD is common among new mothers, thats even worse than stress. having a baby would inflict stress, physical liabilities, possible PTSD and paranoia that the baby could get hurt. and if the lady is a single mom, the worries are even greater. you cant really abandon your child off with a babysitter or anything if its a week old to go back to work.

i wanted to study abroad when i was in college and never got to because my mom refused to pay for it and i had a min. wage job so i couldnt pay for it lol, and i do think it is important for academics and enjoying other cultures, i think the baby takes the cake on this one.


stress leave, i think its bullshit. i have a stressful job, hell i have a stressful life, but i dont bitch and say i need time off. i work with mentally retarded people over eight hours a day then come home to my girlfriend and her son, and its more crying. the dudes i work with hit themselves, hit the workers, throw stuff, shit on themselves, you gotta bathe them, feed them, etc. and nobody has asked for stress leave.

maybe like three days would be reasonable, but MONTHS??? thats just retarded.

 

[Synful*Luv]

Syn, you make no sense!

On the one hand you put so much emphasis on the way parents are bringing up their kids in order to turn them into "good" members of society and on the other hand your are seriously complaining about women taking months off from work because they are having a baby? Give me a break!!

My gripe isn't with them getting the time off, it's about the lack of equality. If they get time off for something as natural as having a kid, someone who needs to take care of an ailing relative should get the same amount of time off. It should be an even playing field. I don't like people getting special treatment... period.

This isn't about raising kids and being a good parent, this is about work. At work everyone gets paid to do a job. If someone has to keep leaving because of home issues that's fine but then quit or find a less demanding job so that other people aren't working doubly hard because someone's kid is sick or whatever the case may be.

i usually agree a lot with syn, but this time i'm going the other way. having a baby is a huge thing for a woman, and you can really go right back to work for physical reasons. also, PTSD is common among new mothers, thats even worse than stress. having a baby would inflict stress, physical liabilities, possible PTSD and paranoia that the baby could get hurt. and if the lady is a single mom, the worries are even greater. you cant really abandon your child off with a babysitter or anything if its a week old to go back to work.

i wanted to study abroad when i was in college and never got to because my mom refused to pay for it and i had a min. wage job so i couldnt pay for it lol, and i do think it is important for academics and enjoying other cultures, i think the baby takes the cake on this one.

Different priorities for different people. My dog wouldn't matter to most moms, but I'd quit my job to take him to the vet. I don't care about someone's sick kid but they would probably do the same for their child. I can't judge anyone's priorities but if someone gets special treatment, everyone should get special treatment is all i'm saying.

 

[Devious]

My gripe isn't with them getting the time off, it's about the lack of equality. If they get time off for something as natural as having a kid, someone who needs to take care of an ailing relative should get the same amount of time off. It should be an even playing field. I don't like people getting special treatment... period.

This isn't about raising kids and being a good parent, this is about work. At work everyone gets paid to do a job. If someone has to keep leaving because of home issues that's fine but then quit or find a less demanding job so that other people aren't working doubly hard because someone's kid is sick or whatever the case may be.



Different priorities for different people. My dog wouldn't matter to most moms, but I'd quit my job to take him to the vet. I don't care about someone's sick kid but they would probably do the same for their child. I can't judge anyone's priorities but if someone gets special treatment, everyone should get special treatment is all i'm saying.

i hear what you're saying but there are some factors that you're not thinking about. if you're a single parent you can't just quit your job and get another one like that, because what do you do for money until you get another job? not everyone is in a situation where they can just change their lives like that. and expecting them to do so to make your life easier is a little unreasonable. i agree that things should be equal in the workplace, and that if a mother gets time off for her sick kid, then other people should be able to get time off in similar family situations. but put yourself in an employer's position. if you have a woman working for you who needs time off for her sick kid and you deny her that time, and the kid dies or ends up getting worse cuz the mother wasn't able to have that time to take the kid to the doctor or whatever, aren't you going to feel somewhat responsible? i know i would. it's not quite the same with a sick relative because unless the person is legally in your care you are not responsible for tat person. you might love them but you are not personally responsible for them. you are, however legally responsible for your child's wellbeing and as a parent it is your job to take care of them.

and seriously you can't really compare a dog to the life of a child. i'm an animal lover myself, but i would put the health and well being of a child before a pet.

 

[raywaters11]

put yourself in an employer's position. if you have a woman working for you who needs time off for her sick kid and you deny her that time, and the kid dies or ends up getting worse cuz the mother wasn't able to have that time to take the kid to the doctor or whatever, aren't you going to feel somewhat responsible?

not only that, the mother could prolly file a lawsuit for not gettin the time off that was necessary to take care of her kid