SMG Tranny question...

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^They look too plain.

 

[dillaxx]

nice. just needs a nice set of rims

i suggest something like these. not necessarily this brand because they are pricey but this style

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Oh, of course. I'm just gonna have to pay for em. I plan on keeping this car for as long as it can keep on rotating its tires, so I'm def. invested in it 100%. Meaning I plan on doing some mods, but not so much external rendering it kinda "ghetto". Most of my mods are gonna be under the hood; I looked at Dinan, 2 grand gets me a software upgrade, raising the turbo boost from 8-something to about 13. E60 forum members that have had it done on their cars say it'll push my 0-60 from 5.6 or so to just under 4. I want a quick car, and while yes, 5.6 is above average, if it's under the 5's, it'll be a sleeper, imo, to those 550i and E55/550 pricks.

Link: 5 Series :: 535i, xi (E60) 2008 :: Engine Tuning

^^ Stage 2, btw.

Then come the rims, and that's gonna be more varied. I think I will find a decent pair somewhere. I've heard of modbargains.com and tirerack.com and they looked pretty good.

In addition to all of it, I may get the M-Aero kit straight from BMW. By the way, doing the Dinan and aero mod's wouldn't void my BMW warranty, but changing the rims will, not to mention I have tire pressure monitors, so that may end up being a factor too.

Oh, and a cold air intake. All in all, I think I'm looking at about another 6 grand of shit to put in. Intake will have the priority, but after that...I dunno. Dinan, or rims? Both are gonna be 2k or so.

 

[Duke]

lmao, rich kid, huh....fuck you, son. thank daddy on your bare knees yet?

 

[C.R.Y.]

seeing how its awd, you cant launch the piss out of it. i wouldnt recommend it. i say go for the rims first and a slight drop.

 

[Duke]

; I looked at Dinan, 2 grand gets me a software upgrade, raising the turbo boost from 8-something to about 13. E60 forum members that have had it done on their cars say it'll push my 0-60 from 5.6 or so to just under 4.

lmao. You're not shaving off that much time, man. Under 4 seconds is definite supercar territory. You drive a 5-series. Considering it's AWD (why-oh-why? I mean, say about BMW what you want, but they know how to make a proper RWD car...) it won't have the best standing starts, since it'll probably bog down.

I'd think you should be happy if you get a sub-6 seconds real world time.

Oh, and if any of those BMW geeks honestly claim a boost increase will put a 535 under 4 seconds, they need a serious, serious reality check.

 

[C.R.Y.]

lmao. You're not shaving off that much time, man. Under 4 seconds is definite supercar territory. You drive a 5-series. Considering it's AWD (why-oh-why? I mean, say about BMW what you want, but they know how to make a proper RWD car...) it won't have the best standing starts, since it'll probably bog down.

I'd think you should be happy if you get a sub-6 seconds real world time.

Oh, and if any of those BMW geeks honestly claim a boost increase will put a 535 under 4 seconds, they need a serious, serious reality check.

yeah i doubt it too. i dont think the awd drivetrain would be able to hold the power either, nor the trans. the most i say you would be able to get it down to would be in the high 4 low 5 second range second range but thats with a manual and rwd because theyre easier to launch and can spin instead of bogging. the automatic takes a little more horsepower.

 

[dillaxx]

lmao. You're not shaving off that much time, man. Under 4 seconds is definite supercar territory. You drive a 5-series. Considering it's AWD (why-oh-why? I mean, say about BMW what you want, but they know how to make a proper RWD car...) it won't have the best standing starts, since it'll probably bog down.

I'd think you should be happy if you get a sub-6 seconds real world time.

Oh, and if any of those BMW geeks honestly claim a boost increase will put a 535 under 4 seconds, they need a serious, serious reality check.

That was a typo, I did mean under 5. From 5.7 or so to a 4.8, 4.9......

And we got an AWD because we're in Chicago and judging by the snow we got last year, we're gonna need it. Every year, someone, save for my mom and her Lexus GX, gets stuck in snow on our driveway. So we figured an xi.

 

[Duke]

That was a typo, I did mean under 5. From 5.7 or so to a 4.8, 4.9......

And we got an AWD because we're in Chicago and judging by the snow we got last year, we're gonna need it. Every year, someone, save for my mom and her Lexus GX, gets stuck in snow on our driveway. So we figured an xi.

I don't think AWD will save you from getting stuck in thick snow. It might save you from careening into a concrete barrier, though, haha.

Still, though, under 5 still sounds far fetched tbh. Under 5 is quick, really quick. RWD, maybe, this type of AWD, not likely.

 

[dillaxx]

I don't think AWD will save you from getting stuck in thick snow. It might save you from careening into a concrete barrier, though, haha.

Still, though, under 5 still sounds far fetched tbh. Under 5 is quick, really quick. RWD, maybe, this type of AWD, not likely.

AWD are quicker off the line, are they not?

 

[Duke]

Depends on the system. Some AWD's will put the power down no problem, spin all 4 wheels and rocket off (Impreza's, Evo's, Skylines and such. Actually, Japanese are good at this shit ). Some other AWD types tend to "bog down" from the line with an agressive launch. Famous case-in-point being the Audi R8, which is kinda weird since their quick versions (S and more notably RS) do not suffer from the same problem. The Quattro system has been prime material for years now, but for some reason in the R8 it doesn't like hard launches.

European car makers in particular don't make AWD systems that are good at hammering a car away from the lights. BMW, Merc, even Porsche. Probably because Europeans make expensive cars driven by all kinds of people (you won't find blonde housewives driving EVO Sti's...), the AWD systems they use are geared very much towards stability, safety, security.

Whereas the Japs put it in "to go faster", hehe.

 

[dillaxx]

Depends on the system. Some AWD's will put the power down no problem, spin all 4 wheels and rocket off (Impreza's, Evo's, Skylines and such. Actually, Japanese are good at this shit ). Some other AWD types tend to "bog down" from the line with an agressive launch. Famous case-in-point being the Audi R8, which is kinda weird since their quick versions (S and more notably RS) do not suffer from the same problem. The Quattro system has been prime material for years now, but for some reason in the R8 it doesn't like hard launches.

European car makers in particular don't make AWD systems that are good at hammering a car away from the lights. BMW, Merc, even Porsche. Probably because Europeans make expensive cars driven by all kinds of people (you won't find blonde housewives driving EVO Sti's...), the AWD systems they use are geared very much towards stability, safety, security.

Whereas the Japs put it in "to go faster", hehe.

Hmm. Then why are Porsches and R8s so fast despite the AWD? They still pull in 4 second 0-60s and in about roughly the same time as the EVOs and STis

 

[Duke]

Hmm. Then why are Porsches and R8s so fast despite the AWD? They still pull in 4 second 0-60s and in about roughly the same time as the EVOs and STis

Because they have dirty more power? Evo's and Subi's are nudging 300 horsies, R8 has 420.

 

[dillaxx]

Because they have dirty more power? Evo's and Subi's are nudging 300 horsies, R8 has 420.

535 is 300 hp/ 300lb.

 

[Duke]

535 is 300 hp/ 300lb.

What does the 3.0 TT have to do with this? h:

 

[dillaxx]

What does the 3.0 TT have to do with this? h:

Um, it's packing the same power as the Subaru and the Evo and has the same drivetrain (AWD) as the two which get the same times or faster than the cars you mentioned. EVO's what, 4.6? The Imp the same? 4.3? The 3.0 TT uses Mitsu turbines, so..... can't be too different. For a car with the weight of the 5er, it's tearing it up.

 

[Duke]

An AWD 5-series is heavy compared to Japanese rally cannons. I don't think you'll get much lower than 6 second 0-60 times in real life.

And yeah,the drivetrain principle is the same. But AWD systems are pretty complex and the character of the systems in the Evo and Impreza are wholly different than that of BMW's XI system, which is made for Americans (There are very few X driven BMW's (save those stupid X3's, X6's and X5's) here in Europe. At least I never see one). So it's not "the same system", far from it.

Stock Evo's and Impreza's will realistically put down 5 (or a wee bit less) in ideal conditions. No way it'll touch 4.3 or sub 4.5 That's Ferrari territory.

 

[dillaxx]

An AWD 5-series is heavy compared to Japanese rally cannons. I don't think you'll get much lower than 6 second 0-60 times in real life.

And yeah,the drivetrain principle is the same. But AWD systems are pretty complex and the character of the systems in the Evo and Impreza are wholly different than that of BMW's XI system, which is made for Americans (There are very few X driven BMW's (save those stupid X3's, X6's and X5's) here in Europe. At least I never see one). So it's not "the same system", far from it.

Stock Evo's and Impreza's will realistically put down 5 (or a wee bit less) in ideal conditions. No way it'll touch 4.3 or sub 4.5 That's Ferrari territory.

I've had the onboard timer measure me at 5.6. I think an ECU remapping can get it to 5.1 with a cold-air along with a Sprintbooster.

 

[Duke]

5.6 is pretty quick for such a heavy car. In ideal conditions, maybe, but otherwise I wouldn't trust BMW's own timing devices that much. They have a tendency to overstate (not by a lot, but still).

The engine is great, though, no doubt about it, but the AWD kinda ruins the fun of the car. The X model rides higher and has no sport suspension. The equivalent RWD car is probably more fun and quicker as well. Although probably a bit more susceptible to poor weather conditions.

 

[dillaxx]

5.6 is pretty quick for such a heavy car. In ideal conditions, maybe, but otherwise I wouldn't trust BMW's own timing devices that much. They have a tendency to overstate (not by a lot, but still).

The engine is great, though, no doubt about it, but the AWD kinda ruins the fun of the car. The X model rides higher and has no sport suspension. The equivalent RWD car is probably more fun and quicker as well. Although probably a bit more susceptible to poor weather conditions.

It was on a mini-higway, no better way of explaining what the hell it is, and about 80 degrees or so. From a standstill in sport mode it did that.

And from what I've heard, BMW is actually quite conservative with their times, as they say the 550i does it in 5.1 or so, but many auto magazines get it in the upper 4's.

 

[C.R.Y.]

5.6 idk, but something like 5.8-6.0 with a good launch is definitely believable. the TT inline 6 is a little underrated. in the 3 series they put out 270rwhp/270rwtq stock.