Is it really that good? I don't want to get sucked into the hype. Production, songwriting, is it all top notch?
Also bear in mind that I'm not particularly a fan of Royce, Crooked I or Joe Budden and I'm not sure I've even ever heard anything by Joell Ortiz.
Well if your not a fan of them as solo artists then this probably wouldn't be your thing.
I think its dope though, Onslaught 2 is probably my fave track along with Rain drops.
if saigon was in the group, he'd be the weakest one.
as for joell, i think he has the benefit of having the least amount of material out there. I mean, you look at Royce and you're looking at a rapper spittin for more than a decade straight. Joell is that dude who has the most things to say (if that makes sense) because he hasn't rapped about them yet.
masta, the gangsta rhymes aren't the west-coast type of gangsta rhymes....the gangsta part that comes through in the rhymes is usually in the form of punchlines. so for example if you were a battle rapper, sooner or later your rhymes would sound "gangsta" even though that wasn't the point. that's the case with Royce, I think. So, don't let that....ruin the listening...or whatever.
Casey, you didn't like "Dumb Out", "Find a Way", "Sing For The Moment", "10 minutes", "The Future", "Stained" by Joe Budden? These songs are dopeness.
The reason I don't rate Saigon above the 4 is because his content is always on some "i was a gangbanger but I'm smart now and gangbanging gets you killed so don't do it" shit in his raps which is content not particularly appealing. Joe Budden and Royce on the other hand have a lot of introspective rhymes dealing with issues beyond street life. Same with Joell.
As for Crooked, he's so dope lyrically that he can rap about the same thing for ages and still sound dope as fuck. But it was his "rap or die" song that really touched me. no homo.
Based on their solo drops, I rate Saigon much higher than Royce, Budden and Crooked I.
"Say Yes" is the fucking truth.
...and I only just found out that he is that show Entourage that everyone talks about. I have never watched it, but maybe I will now.
it's been pretty clear for a while that the ben choad doesn't appreciate rapping for its own sake.Casey, you didn't like "Dumb Out", "Find a Way", "Sing For The Moment", "10 minutes", "The Future", "Stained" by Joe Budden? These songs are dopeness.