Roaches, You Are Not Slick.

[7 Syns]

http://www.streethop.com/community/threads/7-syns-you-are-not-slick.37190/

* Doesn't post about food
* Doesn't post about his interest in travel
* Never asks anyone about their day
* Won't post about his day, doesn't show his artistic side
* Wondering if he'll get drop a spiritual post.

Gentlemen of StreetHop.com, don't give in to this man's shameless broadcasting of himself.

DO
NOT
FUCK
ROACHES.... he'll lead you with candy into his van and chances are make you walk home from your local state forest.

K thx.

 

[Da_Funk]

http://www.streethop.com/community/threads/7-syns-you-are-not-slick.37190/

* Doesn't post about food
* Doesn't post about his interest in travel
* Never asks anyone about their day
* Won't post about his day, doesn't show his artistic side
* Wondering if he'll get drop a spiritual post.

Gentlemen of StreetHop.com, don't give in to this man's shameless broadcasting of himself.

DO
NOT
FUCK
ROACHES.... he'll lead you with candy into his van and chances are make you walk home from your local state forest.

K thx.

Just so you know, Perth > Brisbane

 

[S O F I]

roaches must be busy with med school. he's indian so i assume he has no choice.

 

[roaches]

Dunno what this is all about. I'm just eating this chicken and pesto panini (eating out more often than usual lately because I'll save the money next month when Ramadan begins) I got from the Comcast Center food court, doodling on an envelope and booking my ticket to New Orleans for my buddy's wedding in a couple of months and I see this horseshit. Whatever. How're yall doin?

Sincerely,

roaches, J.D. candidate.

 

[S O F I]

lol @ law school. didn't take you for the type.

 

[roaches]

What type is that?

 

[S O F I]

corporate.

it wasn't an insult, by any means. what law school?

also, interest times in the world of law schools. lots of uproar about how the schools tend to inflate numbers of graduates who've found work relevant to their JD after graduating. then you have all these anynomous law professors blogging about what a joke the whole academic curriculum is.

 

[roaches]

Lawyers aren't corporate. Lawyers are corporate people's tools. No matter how high you rise, if you're still a practicing attorney you're probably little more than a gun in the holster of an even richer guy with an nicer suit.

I blame this message board. All these years spent arguing about an artform that consists of people spewing mostly-meaningless rhetoric but trying to sound fly while doing it...

I'm at Drexel, which is, I believe, the second-lowest ranked law school in the region on account of it opening and graduating its first class in the middle of a depression, and the other Philly schools knocking it down in their peer assessment surveys or whatever. Very generous with the scholarships, though. Every law school lies about its admission data, alumni employment, etc. My school got ranked for the first time this year and came out I think 30-40 spots lower than they expected, and people were upset. We've got just as many Ivy League faculty who write editorials and law review articles and go on TV and it's a recession and blahblahablahblahblahblah. Personally, IDGAF. I didn't go to law school straight out of college to delay joining the real world until I had a few more suits and a 90-160k offer. I want to practice law and bar associations have set up this three-year hoop that I have to jump through before I can be licensed to do so.

I'm working for a boutique employment law firm (so I'm suing the corporate types. For now.) this summer. At my interview, I admitted I didn't know anything about employment law, hadn't taken any classes on employment law, but I wanted to be in a tiny firm so I could see how things were run as I do want to open my own shop ASAP after I graduate. My now-boss shrugged and said it didn't matter, and he was right. In most law school classes, you read a bunch of legal opinions and argue about the legal reasoning. It's good for your critical thinking and reasoning skills but nowhere in my civil procedure class did I learn how to actually file something in court. All these appellate and supreme court cases we read don't tell us shit about the 90% of litigation that never even goes to trial, much less gets appealed. And even when you do reach lofty heights, all the scholarly reasoning and constitutional philosophizing doesn't have shit to do with the embarrassing fact that 2Pac vs. Biggie will be decided a certain way because X number of judges were appointed by a Republican and Y number of judges were appointed by a Democrat. The disconnect between what law school is and what lawyering is is annoying.

 

[S O F I]

Lawyers aren't corporate. Lawyers are corporate people's tools. No matter how high you rise, if you're still a practicing attorney you're probably little more than a gun in the holster of an even richer guy with an nicer suit.

allow me to rephrase.

The way I see it, there's three types of grad school students. The first group is lawyers/mba's, the second group is engineering/comp science/med school, and third is liberal arts degrees for those hoping to work for government/ngo's, etc. Your posts always led me to believe you were in the engineering/med school group. That's all. With AmerikazMost, on the other hand, it was obvious that he was going to be a lawyer.

I'm at Drexel, which is, I believe, the second-lowest ranked law school in the region on account of it opening and graduating its first class in the middle of a depression, and the other Philly schools knocking it down in their peer assessment surveys or whatever. Very generous with the scholarships, though. Every law school lies about its admission data, alumni employment, etc. My school got ranked for the first time this year and came out I think 30-40 spots lower than they expected, and people were upset. We've got just as many Ivy League faculty who write editorials and law review articles and go on TV and it's a recession and blahblahablahblahblahblah. Personally, IDGAF. I didn't go to law school straight out of college to delay joining the real world until I had a few more suits and a 90-160k offer. I want to practice law and bar associations have set up this three-year hoop that I have to jump through before I can be licensed to do so.

what kind of law are you looking to practice?

It's good for your critical thinking and reasoning skills but nowhere in my civil procedure class did I learn how to actually file something in court. All these appellate and supreme court cases we read don't tell us shit about the 90% of litigation that never even goes to trial, much less gets appealed. And even when you do reach lofty heights, all the scholarly reasoning and constitutional philosophizing doesn't have shit to do with the embarrassing fact that 2Pac vs. Biggie will be decided a certain way because X number of judges were appointed by a Republican and Y number of judges were appointed by a Democrat. The disconnect between what law school is and what lawyering is is annoying.

yep.

 

[Pittsey]

I think this thread only proves that, in fact, Roaches is rather slick....!

 

[roaches]

The way I see it, there's three types of grad school students. The first group is lawyers/mba's, the second group is engineering/comp science/med school, and third is liberal arts degrees for those hoping to work for government/ngo's, etc. Your posts always led me to believe you were in the engineering/med school group. That's all. With AmerikazMost, on the other hand, it was obvious that he was going to be a lawyer.

That makes sense. When I started college, I wanted to major in triple major in math, creative writing, and anthropology. My parents weren't paying for the portion of my education not covered by scholarships unless I went premed so I wasted my undergraduate career. I'm really bad at memorizing things and I still have nightmares about the Krebs cycle. At least I ate well and got laid and saw lots of live jazz.

what kind of law are you looking to practice?

Dunno. I'm working in litigation now and it's fun but 90% of the time you never get to trial so I get that blue balls/Jarhead feeling. Working with scientists/engineers and artists who need helping tapping their entrepreneurial potential would be fun. I had an incident in my life about three years ago involving the sheriff and DEA and mistaken identity that slotted a certain perspective on the prison-industrial/military-industrial/surveillance state/police state society we're creeping towards that really was the catalyst for me going to law school but activism as a career really is the province of those who don't really need to work to make a living and I think the Koch brothers method is the best way to effectuate change anyway (I spent a semester working with a non-profit fighting hydrofracking. We accomplished nothing but everyone felt good about themselves). I'd also like to not have a boss and own the Redskins or spend my retirement like Jimmy Goldstein. I'm an opportunist, I'll take whatever path leads to that. I do have certain specific career ideas but their effectiveness depends on no one else thinking of them first. It's a changing profession.

 

[S O F I]

activism as a career really is the province of those who don't really need to work to make a living

I disagree. I think it's the province of those who have no real interest in owning the redskins (metaphorical) . I do think that it's the province of those who never entertain the possibility of waking up homeless and broke one day with no support to speak of. It just takes a bit more balls to make the decision but not every activist is a Lena Dunham type or Mark Ruffalo. But come on, no lawyer really goes broke. I'm sure ACLU lawyers make a nice living.

and I think the Koch brothers method is the best way to effectuate change anyway

The catch being that you can pretty much only effect change for the worst because to get in that position, you have to be deeply entrenched in the interests of those who make choices that makes the society worse off.

If you haven't read The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, you definitely should.

BUT FUCK THAT GET YO MONEY MAYNE!

 

[roaches]

But come on, no lawyer really goes broke. I'm sure ACLU lawyers make a nice living.

We'll see what happens when the education bubble bursts. Right now, though, the avg $150k debt a new lawyer comes out with certainly limits your options.

As for the ACLU, I hear they make low six figures, but they and other prestigious organizations are total pedigree/brand whores.

The catch being that you can pretty much only effect change for the worst because to get in that position, you have to be deeply entrenched in the interests of those who make choices that makes the society worse off.

Yup. I'm sure life will derail and redirect my ambitions and ideas, but it's nice to have them for now.

If you haven't read The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, you definitely should.

Looks interesting. I have something similar collecting dust on my nightstand right now: http://www.amazon.com/The-Collapse-American-Criminal-Justice/dp/0674051750

Does anyone want to go to my van yet?

 

[masta247]

I really disliked law classes. Man it was so boring to me - memorizing so much stuff. How do you get to enjoy it?

 

[roaches]

The United States has a common law system so there isn't too much memorizing of statutes and codes and whathaveyou. In most classes, we just read and discuss significant cases related to the subject. Ideally, you get a nice little Socratic dialogue. We're allowed to bring our casebooks and notes to exams, too. Law exams here mostly test your reasoning and analytic skills. It often still is very boring. I enjoy it more because I do enjoy arguing.

 

[Pittsey]

Roaches has me romanticising about becoming a lawyer. When I was in school I didn't have a clue what I wanted to be.

I still don't...!

 

[roaches]

Learn a useful skill instead: http://www.codecademy.com/#!/exercises/0

In the meantime, invest in companies that provide services to the elderly and/or diabetic.

 

[Pittsey]

Learn a useful skill instead: http://www.codecademy.com/#!/exercises/0

In the meantime, invest in companies that provide services to the elderly and/or diabetic.

That is very useful. I was trying to teach an 11 year old programming and that is perfect.

 

[EDouble]

who do i ask shit to roaches or seven