Religious dress in schools

[Illuminattile]

how the fuck is that the same ? explain this for me.

I'll try, but I think it might be futile...

if im muslim, and i want to wear a fucking veil to class orwhatever it is they wear, why not.

Are you asking me why you shouldn't be allowed to wear your Muslim dress to class? For one, it goes against the school uniform policy. If I have to wear a uniform, so should everyone. It's also feasible that I might find your dress offensive.

your kkk and swastika are EVIL, both are racist symbols, and are proven by the mass murder of millions of people

Obviously you and I think the Swastika is evil, but a Nazi probably doesn't. And it's not as if murders have never been committed by those wearing Muslim dress.

thats not the same as a religious belief

Why is a religious belief more important than any other belief?

this is the worst attempt at an intellectual comeback i have ever seen and i cant believe im even arguing this. this proves to me your not intelligent.

Please try and answer my questions.

when the swastika represents the slaughter of jews and the KKK is a racist organization, its not the same as a religion. i dont understand how the hell you can even compare the two

Obviously you have a problem with this analogy, so why don't we try another?

If I wanted to come to your school dressed as a Goth or a Punk or wearing nothing at all, because that was part of my culture or belief system, would you find that acceptable?

 

[ThaHeartless]

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how the fuck is that the same ? explain this for me.

if im muslim, and i want to wear a fucking veil to class orwhatever it is they wear, why not. your kkk and swastika are EVIL, both are racist symbols, and are proven by the mass murder of millions of people . thats not the same as a religious belief this is the worst attempt at an intellectual comeback i have ever seen and i cant believe im even arguing this. this proves to me your not intelligent.

its not the same stop being stupid., when the swastika represents the slaughter of jews and the KKK is a racist organization, its not the same as a religion. i dont understand how the hell you can even compare the two

stop rolling your eyes as though you're making good points lol
answer his questions, i can't really see a comeback from his points.

 

[Story]

if the school has a uniform policy u follow the uniform policy.

if it doesnt, you dont.

end of story.


sure, wear your swastika but when someone whups the fuck out of you, dont ask why.

your point is stupid and if u brought it up to someoen in person theyd probably laugh at you. weark a swastika, or a kkk outfit is differnt than wearing a muslim get up if the school has no uniform policy.

if it DOES have a uniform policy, by all means, wear the uniform.

 

[Story]

I'll try, but I think it might be futile...


Are you asking me why you shouldn't be allowed to wear your Muslim dress to class? For one, it goes against the school uniform policy. If I have to wear a uniform, so should everyone. It's also feasible that I might find your dress offensive.


Obviously you and I think the Swastika is evil, but a Nazi probably doesn't. And it's not as if murders have never been committed by those wearing Muslim dress.


Why is a religious belief more important than any other belief?


Please try and answer my questions.


Obviously you have a problem with this analogy, so why don't we try another?

If I wanted to come to your school dressed as a Goth or a Punk or wearing nothing at all, because that was part of my culture or belief system, would you find that acceptable?

by the way, i went to a huge city school no dress code, people wore punk and goth stuff, not a problem

not to mention thats a BIT different than a swastika. the swastika comment was ridiculous and stupid and didnt fit the convo.

good day

 

[TecK NeeX]

And it's not as if murders have never been committed by those wearing Muslim dress.

a muslim dress? there is no such thing, its a freaking scarf covering the hair, nuns wearing them as well, and when was the last time a women wearing the veil commited a murder? and if there ever was a case of such a crime, would not wearing the veil have stopped it? cant believe how ignorant some peopel are on this subject.

i agree with glockmatic, if it doesnt incite hate it should be allowed, a cross doesnt, a jewish skullcap doesnt, a muslim veil doesnt, a nazi swastika does, a perfect example of this is the prince harry incident. the shit was the top story all over the world for like a week straight

in my opinion wearing the veil and long dresses should be encouraged, i tend to have more respect for women dressed modestly (not just muslim women) than women who are half naked just to draw attention and be thought of as a piece of meat

 

[Story]

apparently illuminattle and his superior intellect seems to think a muslim veil and a swastika r the same thing


if ur argument is murders done by those in a muslim dress, then fuck wed all be going to school naked cause everyones commited a murder in some form of dress

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

and if there ever was a case of such a crime, would not wearing the veil have stopped it? cant believe how ignorant some peopel are on this subject.

Would not wearing swastikas have saved Jewish lives?

a cross doesnt

A cross has been known to offend me when referenced in a certain context.

a perfect example of this is the prince harry incident

This is not a perfect example. I was one of those calling for Harry's blood but this incident caused outraged because of who he was probably more so than the swastika iteself.

 

[devils_advok8]

apparently illuminattle and his superior intellect seems to think a muslim veil and a swastika r the same thing


if ur argument is murders done by those in a muslim dress, then fuck wed all be going to school naked cause everyones commited a murder in some form of dress

No, that wasnt his point.I see where he's coming from, but his examples were irrelevant.
And story, you need to relax bro

 

[TecK NeeX]

Would not wearing swastikas have saved Jewish lives?

why are you asking me? ask him hes the one that thinks the murder was done because of the dress

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

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Your point was that the dress doesn't matter.

You then made a rhetorical question about whether or not a veil influences a veiled killer's actions. I simply retorted with a similar question, but switch the veil for the swastika - something which you have called into question.

 

[TecK NeeX]

This is not a perfect example. I was one of those calling for Harry's blood but this incident caused outraged because of who he was probably more so than the swastika iteself.

the primary reason for the outrage was because of the fact that he was wearing the swastika period, jews dont give a fuck who he is they sure did give a fuck of what he was wearing. would it have caused as big of an outrage if he was wearing the skullcap? or the cross? NO

A cross has been known to offend me when referenced in a certain context.

like?

 

[TecK NeeX]

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Your point was that the dress doesn't matter.

You then made a rhetorical question about whether or not a veil influences a veiled killer's actions. I simply retorted with a similar question, but switch the veil for the swastika - something which you have called into question.

do you even know what the swastika represents? when you go to school wearing the swatiska you might as well go to school wearing a sign on your back sayin i hate anyone who isnt white, comparing that to a veil which represents self respect and modesty is absurd

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

the primary reason for the outrage was because of the fact that he was wearing the swastika period,

There were two factors here: the swastika & Harry.

A picture of a swastika offends how many? (And I don't mean a glorified picture, just a a simple swastika)

Harry by himself offends how many?

Me with a swastika at a low-key party offends how many?

Prince Harry wearing a swastika at a party - in which the paparazzi is in attendance - offends how many people?

Harry was more of a factor than the swastika. I see a swastika on TV, it doesn't bother me. I see it on him & I'm livid.

like?

That myself & those who have love & nurtured me to their own disadvantage aren't the true burden bearings but rather, some manipulated character from history will carry my sins.....for example.

 

[devils_advok8]

Would not wearing swastikas have saved Jewish lives?



A cross has been known to offend me when referenced in a certain context.



This is not a perfect example. I was one of those calling for Harry's blood but this incident caused outraged because of who he was probably more so than the swastika iteself.

Yes, but this is more about racism and history.Although a set of beliefs, it was not a way of life, while Islam is.You can't be half muslim, i.e, pray but drink, like do the good things but neglecting others and doing the forbidden.There's a certain dress code that Muslim women should abide.Islam is extended to believing in an afterlife (hell/heaven) and the more the good things you do, the more they'll benefit you on Judgement Day.I dont think that someone wearing a Swatsika's doing it to get close to Allah, thus the difference from Islam.
Such laws provoke Muslims feelings worldwide.There are countries where women are punished for not sticking to the Muslim dress code, which tells you how important it is.I dont see countries punishing you for not wearing a Swatsika.
Next thing we know, reading Quran at break times is against the law.
It's more about your personal life, you cant take off your veil at school but wear it when you're going to the supermarket.It's something you must always wear whenever you're around non-muhrums (people you're not allowed to marry like siblings, parents, aunts, etc).

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

do you even know what the swastika represents? when you go to school wearing the swatiska you might as well go to school wearing a sign on your back sayin i hate anyone who isnt white, comparing that to a veil which represents self respect and modesty is absurd

I wonder if you truly know what a swastika is?

There have been discussions on this board as to it's truest origins.

The word swastika is derived from the Sanskrit svastika, meaning any lucky or auspicious object, and in particular a mark made on persons and things to denote good luck



Oh & wearing what may be perceived as Muslim dress means you may as well be wearing a 'terrorist' sign on your back, no?

Well, while you're taking things out of context, suppose it must.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

I dont think that someone wearing a Swatsika's doing it to get close to Allah

Maybe they want to get close to their 'white God'. To place one over the other isn't right at all. (And recognize by 'white God' I simply mean whoever they choose to worship)

I dont see countries punishing you for not wearing a Swatsika.

There were times when Germany was heading along that route though.

And those countries that do punish people for their everyday dress, IMO, are wrong.

 

[TecK NeeX]

I wonder if you truly know what a swastika is?

There have been discussions on this board as to it's truest origins.

The word swastika is derived from the Sanskrit svastika, meaning any lucky or auspicious object, and in particular a mark made on persons and things to denote good luck

you gotta be shittin me, i dont think anyone gives a fuck about the swastikas true meaning, when speaking of or looking at swastika theres is only one thing that comes to the mind of probably 100% of the worlds population and that is the Nazis period. and that is what everyone believe what the symbol represents

Oh & wearing what may be perceived as Muslim dress means you may as well be wearing a 'terrorist' sign on your back, no?

Well, while you're taking things out of context, suppose it must.

wtf does weaing the veil have anything to do with terrorism? cant believe you are still trying to compare the 2, there is no history behind the veil of millions and millions of people murdered, tortured, raped, gassed etc, how ever, the swastika symbol and its holders do have a history of such atrocities

 

[Silleone]

do you even know what the swastika represents? when you go to school wearing the swatiska you might as well go to school wearing a sign on your back sayin i hate anyone who isnt white, comparing that to a veil which represents self respect and modesty is absurd

as my nigga calcuo said, the swastiska was orginally a good luck emblem, it means, luck,light,love and life, it was at one time the symbol of chinese coins, the nazis took it and made it into there own(evil cocksuckers).

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

you gotta be shittin me, i dont think anyone gives a fuck about the swastikas true meaning

No man, you've got to be shitting me!

How the fuck can you say 'I don't think anyone gives a fuck about the swastikas true meaning' then say a couple of lines later,

wtf does weaing the veil have anything to do with terrorism?

By your thinking, who gives a fuck about the veil's true meaning, I say it's the mark of a terrorist because.......all terrorists are Muslims.....all Muslim women wear veils.......because I'm making wayward statements ignoring the underlying fact that beliefs are beliefs & none are greater than the other.

 

[XxXxDanXxXx]

Why does anyone even attempt to debate with Calcuo? He's yet to be beaten.. just give the shit up