Religeonz Are Gangz

[TecK NeeX]

evolution is caused from small changes, slight genetic changes that make a particular species more adept to survive and reproduce and then they out compete existing species, then when they reproduce this genetic alterance is passed on little by little.

dont you get it? your argument is over a 100 years old!. you are bringing absolutely nothing new to this debate, everything you brought so far have been refuted by research and expirements done in the late 20th century!. further research revealed that there was no struggle for life in nature as Darwin had postulated. As a result of extensive research into animal groups in the 1960s and 1970s, V. C. Wynne-Edwards, a British zoologist, concluded that "living things balance their population in an interesting way, which prevents competition for food. Animal groups were simply managing their population on the basis of their food resources. Population was regulated not by elimination of the weak through factors like epidemics or starvation, but by instinctive control mechanisms. In other words, animals controlled their numbers not by fierce competition, as Darwin suggested, but by limiting reproduction"

Even plants exhibited examples of population control, which invalidated Darwin's suggestion of selection by means of competition. The botanist A. D. Bradshaw's observations indicated that during reproduction, plants behaved according to the "density" of the planting, and limited their reproduction if the area was highly populated with plants. On the other hand, examples of sacrifice observed in animals such as ants and bees display a model completely opposed to the Darwinist struggle for survival.

you have no idea what your talking about and you make it sound like things transform over night.

YOU have no idea what you're talkin about, all you did was post up some ancient bullshit regarding the origin of species from darwins time, you are no different than any other evolution believer, they bring darwins argument forward and when someone totaly debunks it they break down and become defenseless. i refuted every single point you brought forward and all you came back with was a pathetic "you dont know what you're talkin about" you need to get your head out of darwins ass and read up on the thousands of books, millions of research and expirements done which totaly blows away this myth.. indeed it is a theory in crisis like one book is titled by a former evolutionist!

your another uneducated individual who talks out of his ass..

when the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of a loser

rather than posting something YOU probably cant even understand, try to understand what evolution is, it isnt saying things are changing, its saying things are evolving, little by little, and the proof that there are mammals today that didnt exist a million years ago proves that, if your so sure explain for me, why did certain species go extinct, and why did certain species that werent around when the dinosaurs were here, where did they come from, did god wave his magic wond and put them here. fish didnt form crocodiles, etc etc, that simple statment shows me you dont know shit about evolution.

how the fuck does an extinction of a certain species prove evolution? i fail to see how you came to that conclusion, i had no idea you were this desperate, there are thousands of mammals/plants facing extinction today, and evolution has absolutely nothing to do with it, take pandas for example, they are on the brink of extinction not because of evolution but because of its mountain forest home is disappearing, same can be said for the earlier species that have been extinct. or are you suggesting that we might see pandas and the other mammals facing extinction evolve into a different species before they go extinct? lol wow

o by the way, evolution is a 21st century idea thats gaining more steam as we speak.

lol you wish man

go study then come back to me wiht your weak ass story of creation that has no scientific evidence except that, the world is magically created

really?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Science backed up religion this week in a study that suggests life may have indeed sprung from clay -- just as many faiths teach

A team at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute and Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston said they had shown materials in clay were key to some of the initial processes in forming life.

Specifically, a clay mixture called montmorillonite not only helps form little bags of fat and liquid but helps cells use genetic material called RNA. That, in turn, is one of the key processes of life.

Jack Szostak, Martin Hanczyc and Shelly Fujikawa were building on earlier work that found clays could catalyze the chemical reactions needed to make RNA from building blocks called nucleotides.

They found the clay sped along the process by which fatty acids formed little bag-like structures called vesicles. The clay also carried RNA into those vesicles. A cell is, in essence, a complex bag of liquidy compounds.

"Thus, we have demonstrated that not only can clay and other mineral surfaces accelerate vesicle assembly, but assuming that the clay ends up inside at least some of the time, this provides a pathway by which RNA could get into vesicles," Szostak said in a statement Thursday.

"The formation, growth and division of the earliest cells may have occurred in response to similar interactions with mineral particles and inputs of material and energy," the researchers wrote in their report, published in the journal Science.

"We are saying that we have demonstrated growth and division without any biochemical machinery. Ultimately, if we can demonstrate more natural ways this might have happened, it may begin to give us clues about how life could have actually gotten started on the primitive Earth."

and your article about austral. walkin upright, give it up man what part of "study concluded that Australopithecus cannot be counted an ancestor of man has recently been accepted by evolutionist"sources. do you not understand? if they accepted that fact why cant you? my sig fits you perfect! "But they are increasingly pressed to almost absurd lengths to defend it."

 

[Story]

everything ive stated has been refuted by research LOL!!!!! its so much the opposite im not going to get into this anymore.


go read the book THE TOWER OF BABEL...

your refuted evidence comes from websites that show me nothing, websites are unreliable sources and they come from people who are bible thumpers and their evidence proves nothing and is a bunch of blabber about things they simply refuse to accept. my views that are 100 years old are actually the current accepted views in the world of evolution and are being proven more and more everyday
you dont know a single fucking thing that your talking about and its time you shut up because your doing nothing more than making me laugh at your ignorance on the topic.

granted some species are going extinct due to destruction fo their homes, but being out competed is another factor that plays in, and your statment about PANDAS EVOLVING INTO ANOTHER SPECIES shows me you havent the slightest idea what your talking about, so that one i wont address.

im not going to discuss this with you any further because your sitting here insisting that the idea of evolution has been disproven and that my views are old when its quite the opposite and the "old views" i have are whats still being taught in the science community and in universities around the world.so your telling me that what colleges are teaching have been disproven, im sorry i dont think so son, your post about walking upright was easily proven as bs. it was PROVEN that they are in fact a line of homonoids, enough of this discussin it can go on for days. u can believe your story of man being made from dirt. it makes no difference to me, i belive something, u dont, like rukas said, it is what it is.

discussion over.


but before i go i got one simple question id like answered,that u ignored in my previous post:

why are there species today, that never existed millions of years ago, just out of curiousity, where did they come from? did someone swing a magic wand? please elaborate for us that study this but dont know anything....

pz

 

[not really ken]

How did humans or monkeys come to have senses? How did they know that there were things out there to see, hear, touch, tast and smell? And are there other things out there that we can't snese? are we going to grow more senses to be able to sense those? How come I don't have eyes in the back of my head? I could have done with eyes in the back of my head, for survival.

 

[Glockmatic]

And are there other things out there that we can't snese?

We can't see most types of light, only the basics.

How come I don't have eyes in the back of my head? I could have done with eyes in the back of my head, for survival.

Our brains would need to adjust if we had eyes at the back of our heads, i don't think there are any animals with eyes at the back of their heads.

 

[TecK NeeX]

everything ive stated has been refuted by research LOL!!!!! its so much the opposite im not going to get into this anymore.

not goint to get into it anymore? you never even did in the first place!

your refuted evidence comes from websites that show me nothing, websites are unreliable sources and they come from people who are bible thumpers and their evidence proves nothing and is a bunch of blabber about things they simply refuse to accept.

oh plz my refuted evidence came from a number of well known biologists, paleontologists, zooligists and former evolutionists, they have done a great deal of research and expirements in the last 2 decades that make the theory of evolution as laughable as the idea that aliens inhabited the earth!. and their works have remained unchallenged and unopposed til this day!. and lol @ "websites show you nothin", so if someone here supported your argument by showing evidence from pro-darwinism websites would you still say they show you nothing? i very much doubt that, stop making me laugh man

granted some species are going extinct due to destruction fo their homes, but being out competed is another factor that plays in, and your statment about PANDAS EVOLVING INTO ANOTHER SPECIES shows me you havent the slightest idea what your talking about, so that one i wont address.

lol wasnt that your argument? that earlier species went extinct and you used that to prove evolution because they 'evolved into something else'? well my question is, zooligists predict that pandas might be extinct in 20-30 years, we will see them evolve into something else before they go extinct? lmao!

enough of this discussin it can go on for days. u can believe your story of man being made from dirt. it makes no difference to me, i belive something, u dont, like rukas said, it is what it is.

should have said that before you called everyone who rejects evolution a fucking stupid moron

and i will get to your question later, i got some shit to do now

 

[Glockmatic]

well my question is, zooligists predict that pandas might be extinct in 20-30 years, we will see them evolve into something else before they go extinct? lmao!

They're going extinct because of human intervention and it happened so fast. If this happened in a few thousand year period they could probably adapt, but they can't. Its like saying "Well people in Africa are starving, can't they just evolve and not eat?", its not that easy

 

[Story]

i never said they evolved into something else, species dont change, they adapt.it takes thousands upon thousands of years for this to occur, so if we are killing off a species in 20 years, they arent going to change much now are they? it seems glockmatic is the only one whose reading whtas being typed.

and you havent answered my question yet. you have listed a few piece of evidence that refute something vs millions of others pieces that support it, also you mentioned that evolution is an outdated theory. why then do university textbooks continue to teach it? why everytime i look into the news something else is being discovered that supports it? your works ur placing as evidence have been challenged, and have been refuted, if they havent been, this discussion wouldnt be going on.

now back to my question:

why are there species now that werent around millions of years ago, also, while your at it, im guessing your going to tell me the endosymbiont theory is horse shit also

this is a discussion taht will go on forever, but for you to sit ther and say EVOLUTION HAS NO BASIS is pure idiocy.

 

[Flipmo]

Our brains would need to adjust if we had eyes at the back of our heads, i don't think there are any animals with eyes at the back of their heads.

Cameleons have 360 degree sight. They don't need the eyes behind the head. The ones in front give them that capability.

 

[Glockmatic]

they adjust their eyes to be able to see behind them, they don't physically have eyes at the back of their heads. If we wanted to have 360 sight our eyes would be petruding from the side of our heads, which would fuck up the vision we have now and would have no practical use

 

[Story]

Cameleons have 360 degree sight. They don't need the eyes behind the head. The ones in front give them that capability.

lol leave it to flipmo to come in with a fact that is completely pointless

 

[Flipmo]

Just doing my job dude, just doing my job.

 

[not really ken]

We can't see most types of light, only the basics.



Our brains would need to adjust if we had eyes at the back of our heads, i don't think there are any animals with eyes at the back of their heads.

Why didn't somekind of capability evolve where we could look at two different things in different places at the same time? And brains should adpt to this change based on the evolution theory.

 

[Glockmatic]

What would benefit from having eyes like that? We have necks, we can turn to see around us. We also live in groups, a village of people have hundreds of eyes in all directions.

 

[not really ken]

Our recations could have been quicker to say if there were two people attacking you, one from the left and one from the right. I could have also done with three arms. damn evolution!!

 

[Glockmatic]

Ya, maybe god can give you another arm

 

[Story]

What would benefit from having eyes like that? We have necks, we can turn to see around us. We also live in groups, a village of people have hundreds of eyes in all directions.

glock stop wasting your time, u understand what your tlaking about, they dont.


let this discussion rest

 

[tupacmansion]

im not going to discuss this with you any further because your sitting here insisting that the idea of evolution has been disproven and that my views are old when its quite the opposite and the "old views" i have are whats still being taught in the science community and in universities around the world.so your telling me that what colleges are teaching have been disproven, im sorry i dont think so son,

Listen fool. Along time ago they used to teach people that the world was flat. With ur ignorant view you would have continued to believe that, that was the case. If its in a book, it doesnt make it true. There you go calling everyone else ignorant when you can't question a single thing being taught to you. You need to stop your ignorance and see both sides of the story, then decide. Idiot.

 

[Butt Rubber]

religeons are gangs, think about it :thumb:

religeons are organized worldwide

gangs are a small localized group of people


religeons would be more comparable to organzied crime syndicates

 

[Story]

Listen fool. Along time ago they used to teach people that the world was flat. With ur ignorant view you would have continued to believe that, that was the case. If its in a book, it doesnt make it true. There you go calling everyone else ignorant when you can't question a single thing being taught to you. You need to stop your ignorance and see both sides of the story, then decide. Idiot.

lol u were run out of this discussion a long time ago, not to mention this discussion is done.

 

[Hurts]

but its still weird ppl fight eachother cuz they have different believes about life...they are willing to kill eachother for it...thats hm...human^