Question...

[MCaussade]

Which of the 2pac albums that were put out (up until maybe RUSD) were released closest to their OG form?? Many threads on here show the details of how for example MATW had almost no true OG songs... how close to OG is AEOM and the 7 Day Theory??? Were these mixed up and down the tracklist too or were they basically released untouched??

 

[Dante]

Which of the 2pac albums that were put out (up until maybe RUSD) were released closest to their OG form?? Many threads on here show the details of how for example MATW had almost no true OG songs... how close to OG is AEOM and the 7 Day Theory??? Were these mixed up and down the tracklist too or were they basically released untouched??

of the albums put out post death, rusd is the most og-like, and sir is probably next.

albums completed when pac was free (all of his albums except matw and some of makaveli) reflect his own creativity, and although some songs were enhanced and rearranged, in the end it was likely under his approval.

in the process of creating music, usually a very simple base beat is made to which artists record their verses. it is after the vocals are recorded that the beat is elaborated upon and built into a polished and finished product. this is what people fail to realize about many og's - that they reflect a snapshot in the life span of a song and not necessairly how pac or anyone else intended the final product to look or sound.

 

[MCaussade]

of the albums put out post death, rusd is the most og-like, and sir is probably next.

albums completed when pac was free (all of his albums except matw and some of makaveli) reflect his own creativity, and although some songs were enhanced and rearranged, in the end it was likely under his approval.

in the process of creating music, usually a very simple base beat is made to which artists record their verses. it is after the vocals are recorded that the beat is elaborated upon and built into a polished and finished product. this is what people fail to realize about many og's - that they reflect a snapshot in the life span of a song and not necessairly how pac or anyone else intended the final product to look or sound.

I guess your interpretation was just like mine, what's strange is that there is sooooo much discussion about PAC's early versions of OGs... the question I feel then becomes, "what do you consider OG?" Because, as you said likely every artist will make a rough cut version of a song and mix it. I guess you could then say some songs are more "OG" than others I guess...

Just out of curiousity, what portion of the 7 day theory album was changed?? Were those beats etc basically left as they were when Pac was alive, or did they go and change a lot of it as they were releasing it months after he passed??

 

[GhostOfRazgriz]

I guess your interpretation was just like mine, what's strange is that there is sooooo much discussion about PAC's early versions of OGs... the question I feel then becomes, "what do you consider OG?" Because, as you said likely every artist will make a rough cut version of a song and mix it. I guess you could then say some songs are more "OG" than others I guess...

Just out of curiousity, what portion of the 7 day theory album was changed?? Were those beats etc basically left as they were when Pac was alive, or did they go and change a lot of it as they were releasing it months after he passed??

the album took three days to record and 4 to mix so 7 days total, it was all done back in late summer, august and september supposedly. so it would have been totally completed more than a month in advance. album artwork , disc art work, and other promotional shit as well as filming videos had to be completed first as well as all the legal shit so it was most likely not altered after pac's death.

 

[Dante]

Just out of curiousity, what portion of the 7 day theory album was changed?? Were those beats etc basically left as they were when Pac was alive, or did they go and change a lot of it as they were releasing it months after he passed??

no beats were dramatically changed... just some refinements and removal of some vocals. the skits that join tracks together were not present on the demo, and some interviews (and the making of makaveli in xxl) substantiate this.

 

[MCaussade]

no beats were dramatically changed... just some refinements and removal of some vocals. the skits that join tracks together were not present on the demo, and some interviews (and the making of makaveli in xxl) substantiate this.

okay, thanks for the clarification on that... tough to tell what ppl mean these days when they just throw around words like OG and what not...

 

[Dante]

okay, thanks for the clarification on that... tough to tell what ppl mean these days when they just throw around words like OG and what not...

i agree completely. a demo is not an og.

 

[ApacalypseNow]

of the albums put out post death, rusd is the most og-like, and sir is probably next.

albums completed when pac was free (all of his albums except matw and some of makaveli) reflect his own creativity, and although some songs were enhanced and rearranged, in the end it was likely under his approval.

in the process of creating music, usually a very simple base beat is made to which artists record their verses. it is after the vocals are recorded that the beat is elaborated upon and built into a polished and finished product. this is what people fail to realize about many og's - that they reflect a snapshot in the life span of a song and not necessairly how pac or anyone else intended the final product to look or sound.

so there R many songs he made when he was aLive that he didn't hear the final product of? mabey he made so much music he just pushed it to the side and let ppl touch it up and moved on.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

so there R many songs he made when he was aLive that he didn't hear the final product of? mabey he made so much music he just pushed it to the side and let ppl touch it up and moved on.

Yes, but the intended final product wasn't too different from how he recorded it. The "OGs" of a lot of stuff released under Pac's supervision (songs from MATW, AEOM, DK7) were pretty similar to what we had, from my understanding. Usually the producers just made a basic beat so it could be rapped on, then they would go back and fine-tune it and perfect it. Just think of that studio footage of Pac when he was saying something like, "You can mix it later when all the rappers leave, but while they're here, catch them niggas freestyling, lay the hook down," etc.