question to very first pac songs

[KAMIKAZI]

Is that your final answer?
So your tellin me the other guy is right?

I don't know exactly, I know it was Pre-2Pacalypse.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

Damn, I thought that and Dope Fiend's Diner were both scrapped from 2Pacalypse. Guess they won't be on the "final" album if their that old.

Dope Fiend's Diner is from 2pacalypse.

 

[LesanePCrooks96]

I remember what HellRazor's referring to. on the 2Pacalypse pre-release (hand-written) tracklist, I believe there was a track titled "Lifestyles of the Poor & Homies"...either, they are both the same song or he made a different one w/"Homeless" at the end; unlikely. Nevertheless, I do remember the track being on the Pacalypse OG tracklist.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

I remember what HellRazor's referring to. on the 2Pacalypse pre-release (hand-written) tracklist, I believe there was a track titled "Lifestyles of the Poor & Homies"...either, they are both the same song or he made a different one w/"Homeless" at the end; unlikely. Nevertheless, I do remember the track being on the Pacalypse OG tracklist.

No, I remember it wasn't on the tracklist, I can't remember the tracklist, but I've seen it recently enough to remember that that song isn't on it.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

There you go.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

Damn, there's a few that were scrapped from there. Either that or they were never made. Anyone got any info on those?

Some if not all were made.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

Hymn of a 90's N.I.G.G.A. - I'm assuming this later became "Young Black Male," or something similar to it. [highlight]Sounds possible, it's definitely not "N.I.G.G.A." like so many people assume it is because the word "nigga" is an acronym in the title.[/highlight]

Scared Straight '91 - No idea?? Any additional info would be great. [highlight]Well it says featuring Ray Luv[/highlight]

What U Won't Do 4 Love - Guessing this is the "demo version" of "Do For Love." [highlight]No, it's a different song.[/highlight]

Funky Freestyles - Once again, no idea?? [highlight]A freestyle with Pac and others most likely.[/highlight]

Temptation - I'd assume an early version of "Temptations" from MATW?? [highlight]Actually it's Resist The Temptation.[/highlight]

This Is Ure Brain On A 40 Ounce - Never heard of it, but really curious to know about it. Also, if my eyes aren't playing tricks on me, I believe it says ft. Treach? [highlight]Yea it says Treach.[/highlight]

 

[Ricardo]

Hymn of a 90's N.I.G.G.A. - I'm assuming this later became "Young Black Male," or something similar to it.

^^^Probably Young Black Male, which also started the CD off.

Trapped - Released on final cut.

Scared Straight '91 - No idea?? Any additional info would be great.

^^^I didn't think Ray Luv did any tracks with Pac after Strictly Dope. Apparently, they recorded together until '91. Anyone know any other Ray Luv/Pac songs?

What U Won't Do 4 Love - Guessing this is the "demo version" of "Do For Love."

^^^Early version, different verse, I think a verse from "My Burnin Heart" is one the song. There is also a Sucka 4 Love, not sure which came first.

Tears Of A Clown - Leaked.

Funky Freestyles - Once again, no idea??

^^^Maybe a couple of his freestyles on one track, similar to Representin' 93. "Sweet Black Pussy", etc.

Words Of Wisdom - Released.
Dopefiend's Diner - Known of, not leaked.
Revenge of the Lunatic - Most likely "Tha Lunatic."

Temptation - I'd assume an early version of "Temptations" from MATW??---Resist The Temptation. I was about to ask the same question about this track. Resist is more likely.

Violent - Released.
Backstabbas - Another I've never heard of??

^^^Could be Soulja's Story, I Don't Give A Fuck, Crooked Ass Niggaz, etc. Google search for 2pac backstabbers found "Thugs Get Lonely Too & Strictly 4 My Niggaz"

Use Me - Google search turned up nothing.

Revenge Remix - I'm guessing a remix to "Tha Lunatic" or alternate version that didn't make the final cut. Or maybe this is the one that made the album and the other one is the one that didn't make it?
Rebel Of The Underground - Released.

This Is Ure Brain On A 40 Ounce - Never heard of it, but really curious to know about it. Also, if my eyes aren't playing tricks on me, I believe it says ft. Treach?

^^^^ Maybe Pass The 40, also featuring Treach. It wouldn't need to say f/ DU since half of 2pacalypse Now f/ DU and didn't credit them. (Trapped, Rebel Of The Underground, etc.)

VERY Interesting..any OG Tracklists for Strictly, or any other cds?

I saw the MATW concert list from ressurection booklet.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

This Is Ure Brain On A 40 Ounce - Never heard of it, but really curious to know about it. Also, if my eyes aren't playing tricks on me, I believe it says ft. Treach?

^^^^ Maybe Pass The 40, also featuring Treach. It wouldn't need to say f/ DU since half of 2pacalypse Now f/ DU and didn't credit them. (Trapped, Rebel Of The Underground, etc.)

You gotta be fucking kidding me, this is the kind of shit that gets newbies spreading false misleading info. Just because they tracks are both Pre DR and have "40" in the name doesn't mean that there's a connection between the 2.

Everytime I see the word "Ricardo" in a thread my blood boils because I know it's a stupid post.

 

[GhostOfRazgriz]

DU was credited, just not as DU, it credits the individual members.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

DU was credited, just not as DU, it credits the individual members.

Well they're in "Dope Fiend's Diner" and they're not listed on the tracklist, that and the title similarities are the only support for Ricardo's ass theory.

 

[GhostOfRazgriz]

oh i thoguht he was talking about on the album itself.

 

[Ricardo]

^^^^Forgot about that one, thanks?

I hinted that since it features treach it might be Pass The 40, i didnt say it was.

As far as I Know, Shock G confirmed that the song exiosts, and that it was produced by Big D. I didnt read anywhere that Shock G was ON the song. Is he?

 

[Diaz]

I hinted that since it features treach it might be Pass The 40, i didnt say it was.

 

[Stephen]

Dopefiends Diner samples Suzanne Vegas' Tom's Diner, same sort of theme as well.

 

[GhostOfRazgriz]

Dopefiends Diner samples Suzanne Vegas' Tom's Diner, same sort of theme as well.

someone said that before, i cant remember who. can someone up tom's diner? or ill get it off DC++.

 

[M4cKaVe71]

^^^I didn't think Ray Luv did any tracks with Pac after Strictly Dope. Apparently, they recorded together until '91. Anyone know any other Ray Luv/Pac songs?

They did a track together on Young Lay's 1996 album "Black N Dangerous." It's called "Got 2 Survive" featuring Pac, Mac Mall & Ray Luv. :thumb:

Ray Luv was also part of the Strictly Dope

 

[M4cKaVe71]

yes. it's pretty sloppy actually. light yeard worse than the lost tapes sessions. he's b-boyish, with a x-clan/pe kind of subject matter.

but Danty, dont you miss the good ole dayz? :x

ps.: I only recon Money B, who are the other 2?

 

[Ricardo]

lol, Ok, i was thinking Family Of The Underground, Pass the 40 doesn't feature Treach. Therefore , i'm wrong, stupid mistake.

So is Shock G on Dopefiend's Diner?

I noticed that picture says R. Tyson co-wrote Trapped. Isn' R. Tyson, the same person that was in Strictly Dope...Rock Tyson.

I thought Strictly Dope was just Pac, Ray & Dizzy. So is R. Tyson Ray Luv's real name?

 

[M4cKaVe71]

absuletely right!
and Dopefiend's Diner is supposed to feature Digital Underground ..and Shock G is part of DU.
now I dont know if it's just Shock or who else, cant remember that pic of 2Pacalypse Now's rumored tracklist