Prison Thoughts...

ArtsyGirl

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Alot of people say Pac wasnt happy at Death Row, which is probably true. But when I was reading this interview (while he was in Prison) he explains he wasnt really happy before even that.
Also its interesting to see that Pac seemed to be positive about not smoking weed anymore but obviously when he got out that didnt really happen quite to plan. Anyway what you all think of that, do you interpret it the same way? How do you think that would have possibly changed his 9 months while he was free?
Interview in Prison

How do you feel after everything you've been through these past few weeks?

Well, the first two days in prison, I had to go through what life is like when you've been smoking weed for as long as I have and then you stop. Emotionally, it was like I didn't know myself. I was sitting in a room, like there was two people in the room, evil and good. That was the hardest part. After that, the weed was out of me. Then every day I started doing, like, a thousand push-ups for myself. I was reading whole books in one day, and writing, and that was putting me in a peace of mind. Then I started seeing my situation and what got me here. Even though I'm innocent of the charge they gave me, I'm not innocent in terms of the way I was acting.

Could you tell me specifically what you mean?

I'm just as guilty for not doing nothing as I am for doing things. Not with this case, but just in my life. I had a job to do and I never showed up. I was so scared of this responsibility that I was running away from it. But I see now that whether I show up for work or not, the evil forces are going to be at me. They're going to come 100 percent, so if I don't be 100 percent pure-hearted, I'm going to lose. And that's why I'm losing.

When I got in here, all the prisoners was, like, "F-ck that gangsta rapper." I'm not a gangsta rapper. I rap about things that happen to me. I got shot five times, you know what I'm saying? People was trying to kill me. It was really real like that. I don't see myself being special; I just see myself having more responsibilities than the next man. People look to me to do things for them, to have answers. I wasn't having them because my brain was half dead from smoking so much weed. I'd be in my hotel room, smoking too much, drinking, going to clubs, just being numb. That was being in jail to me. I wasn't happy at all on the streets. Nobody could say they saw me happy.

When I spoke to you a year ago, you said that if you ended up in jail, your spirit would die. You sound like you're saying the opposite now.

That was the addict speaking. The addict knew if I went to jail, then it couldn't live. The addict in Tupac is dead. The excuse maker in Tupac is dead. The vengeful Tupac is dead. The Tupac that would stand by and let dishonorable things happen is dead. God let me live for me to do something extremely extraordinary, and that's what I have to do. Even if they give me the maximum sentence, that's still my job.
 
Isnt that an excerpt from the vibe interview?
"This is my last interview, If I get killed, I want people to have the real story."
That article showed for the first time a side of Pac i hadnt known existed.
 
Yeah I'm pretty sure its from Vibe.
I dont think it could have been shown while he was still smoking and as he put it *numbing* himself. I guess when your locked in a cell for 23 hours a day the only place to look is within. Thats what I love about Pac, he didnt just see that and hold in in he spoke about it to the whole world. I think that addiction statement is so true.
 
artisticgurl said:
Yeah I'm pretty sure its from Vibe.
I dont think it could have been shown while he was still smoking and as he put it *numbing* himself. I guess when your locked in a cell for 23 hours a day the only place to look is within. Thats what I love about Pac, he didnt just see that and hold in in he spoke about it to the whole world. I think that addiction statement is so true.
agreed.
 
You can tell the difference in how he felt from AEOM to Makaveli.

When he first got out of prison, he was very happy to be on Death Row. Dude had his freedom back, signed to the most dominant label in the industry, he was releasing a new double album and was on the brink of becoming the biggest rap star the genre had ever seen, partying 24/7, girls everywhere.....thats why AEOM had so many club/party songs on it. Dude was livin it up.

But slowly, he started becoming more paranoid and filled with rage sparked by the media blowing up the east/west fued. By the time summer 96' came around, he wasnt so happy anymore, and thats why DK7 has a much more intense and darker feel to it than its double cd predecessor.
 
Although I agree he was happy to be out of prison, I disagree that he was completely happy (speculation at this point) it seemed to me like he was furious about the NY shooting and got to smashin on biggie straight away. I'd say he chose to keep most of AEOM a west coast styled album, because he did release Hit Em Up off of the How Do You Want It single so he was pissed at that stage too. Although the media probably did add to the darkness of 7 Day Theory since they really fueled things to another level.
 
Didn't Jada Pinkett say in an interview that Pac was still smoking weed while incarcerated? It's not that hard to get it there. Maybe he started smoking again after that interview?

Regardless, even though his mind was clear, being locked up sucks, and as we all know, his only way out was through Suge and Death Row. But he also knew that he didn't just have to play the role of a Death Row artist, he had to become it in every way, even though he knew that it wasn't really him but he had to be it while signed to the label. Plus he was pissed about getting blasted five times and serving time for a crime he didn't commit. You can completely see the change in his character when you compare even his videotaped interview from Riker's (where he has hair) to the ones after he was released and on Death Row. In the interview from Riker's he was almost out and he was talking about how he was with Death Row and he was still pissed about how the shooting went down, but he wasn't out for blood. He was saying how "there's enough loot for us all" and how they can all make money.
 
It seemed like he just got done readin the malcom x book. He would read a lot in prison such as Sun Tzu , Machiavelli ect. It puts u in a certain mind frame for a while. U guys kno wut i mean?
 
Yeah I think its the solitude of prison. In every day life there is so much going on (especially for a celebrity) that you dont really have the time to find yourself.
Pac may have got weed in jail but it would have been ALOT less than while he was out and thats impact enough to give you a certain amount of clarity.
I dont really beleive Pac was forcing himself to act like that for Death Row, I think DR was a perfect outlet for his anger at that time.
 
With death row it was like pac was free of a lot of stress of like courts, and all the shit he got thrown on him, and shit like that, with help from d.r., and had alot more protection and ppl in the industry accessible 2 him. but also moved up a few levels, gained a whole lot of power and was submergin himself in all types of plans in just a few months. and nonstop recordin, actin. and then with all the beef shit

and readin thru these deez nutz feelin u bout that shit with deathrow. pac was always the realest with shit and he would be reppin Everythin he believed n so fuckin hard if it got him some where or he was just bein him goin all out on Everythin n shit. them talks bout, him leavin deathrow and all that not long before he died; yet at same time see how passionate he was bout a Death row east and tryin to show everybody how its really some other shit really gona be changin putin stamps on shit kinda regardless of how the shit getz there. always fast with jail like he say wen he first get out it made him humble and left him loads of time to think. but some of what he said was like said by other ppl b4 the jail talk. and shit just happens when u get out. u can tell all the shit was just one big ass rolercoaster in such short of tyme. In total he probably only had 3, or 4 yearz max from when he release his 1st cd and had juice and all that to when he get murdered. and all the bullshit that was brought with it at the same tyme joys too but all that shit get u thinkin alot. can't believe i jus rambled all that and didnt really have a damn thing 2 do with this thread :eek:

and on the same; like in same interviews he did after prison he expressed how he dont think he could ever live a normal happy life. but he was gona make do with what he had. jail time helped keep shit thrivin and made him Realy analyze. :thumb:

Pac was always n the extremes with whatever the hell he was doin and fought his way thru all the shit.
 
Swollen_Member said:
Isn't it kinda ironic that his time at Death Row was like literally death row for him? Crazy isn't it.

Good observation... it's like he was really sentenced to death, and his last meal was basically all the good times he had (money, drugs, women), then that was it.
 
why yall sayin dat he wuzn´t happy on tha row..if not why wuz he on tha row?did suge forced him ta stay on tha row?i don´t think so.so he was happy but he wanted ta create his own things (label..)
 
Deuce 7 Tha Psycho said:
why yall sayin dat he wuzn´t happy on tha row..if not why wuz he on tha row?did suge forced him ta stay on tha row?i don´t think so.so he was happy but he wanted ta create his own things (label..)

he signed a contract
 
Deuce 7 Tha Psycho said:
why yall sayin dat he wuzn´t happy on tha row..if not why wuz he on tha row?did suge forced him ta stay on tha row?i don´t think so.so he was happy but he wanted ta create his own things (label..)

Alot of people close to Pac have stated that he wasnt happy about signing to Tha Row but he felt forced since it was that or prison. If Pac felt like Tha Row was a good label to be on he would have signed in 94 when Suge approached him. I think partly the reason he created so many albums in such a short period of time is because he wanted to get off that label and back to what he felt he should have been doing. Its hard to say for sure, you might be right, but thats just my perception of what happened.
 
yeah tha row was only ones that was lookin get him out and that had his back. and could bring all his shit to another level. i don't know the shit bout him bein unhappy about Having to sign (he didnt have to do anythin ) even heard when he sign he told sumbody he was makin a deal with the devil. but he went all out representin deathrow and everythin bout it and shit. he didnt make 10 albums worth of shit to get off the label lol he was done after 3 that he put out he coulda sat ack and waited the whole year instead of makin a few more hundred tracks to be released later times or even after hes gone shoutin deathrow in proly Most of em, and shits. everybody was just creatin havin a wild ass time of partyin plus hard workin in a shortened year. ive heard of other close people with him that had realy never seen him More happy but even with that; it could have just been pac frontin for everybodys.

when he officialy leave d.r. wasnt that confirmed? wasnt it like the last days of august? :confused:
and wat tipped it was suge wouldnt let anybody take tapes from the studio. (seen sum fools say he never let tapes go from studio, was that shit true 2?) so he had yaz right up the shit firein kenner etc. ive seen all that shit i cant figure if it was ever confirmed too.

ive read this thing in a long ass thing a while back about when he did that, supposedly Syke if i member right was in awe sayin 'You cant fire kenner' but figured that it was all dramatics thats put into shit.
anybody got some offical words on all that shit ?


but w/ pac bein happy or unhappy like u say artistic gurl its hard totell with shit like that though, definitely. alot of different phases was goin down.


peace
 

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