Atleast this has done one thing positive. Both shia and shiite have united in Iraq...to hate the Pope...well atleast for a few days atleast
Shahin said:The islamic world needs to stop responding with violence everytime someone criticizes Islam. For their own sake.
Tru Principle said:Bereal,Duke... you're both getting a spanking when I tuck you in tonight lol...
oh I miss the earlier Pope... I liked that man RIP
Glockmatic said:There were riots and deaths for the desecration of the quran at guantanamo. The Pope's speech was about condeming violence, then some muslims respond with burning churches. Monty Python couldn't have written a better script
Look I agree with you that Islam has to put up with a lot of shit, but the best thing the Islamic world can do is react maturely and condemn the pope (or whoever, depending on the incident). The violent reactions are harming nobody but muslims.TecK NeeX said:Being a "Moderate" Muslim, I wouldn't just label the desecration and the flushing of the Qur'an down the toilets a criticizim, It's an obvious attack on the religion done to the faces of Muslim prisoners as well. Whatever the pope's intentions were good or bad, he shouldn't have said what he said, Period. He realizes this and now admits and sees that what he said could offend Muslims. But falls short of an apology. Booo hoooo
He wants to make a speech condemning violence he shouldn't have made one that begets violence. This is much bigger than what it seems to you. He's the leader of a population of 1 billion people, saying something as unneccissary as this to that kind of audiance when it could easily be misunderstood by many as a "be careful of those Muslims who are taught nothing but evil." This is a hate seed being planted in the minds of millions.
Shahin said:Look I agree with you that Islam has to put up with a lot of shit, but the best thing the Islamic world can do is react maturely and condemn the pope (or whoever, depending on the incident). The violent reactions are harming nobody but muslims.
Shahin said:Look I agree with you that Islam has to put up with a lot of shit, but the best thing the Islamic world can do is react maturely and condemn the pope (or whoever, depending on the incident). The violent reactions are harming nobody but muslims.
TecK NeeX said:Being a "Moderate" Muslim, I wouldn't just label the desecration and the flushing of the Qur'an down the toilets a criticizim, It's an obvious attack on the religion done to the faces of Muslim prisoners as well. Whatever the pope's intentions were good or bad, he shouldn't have said what he said, Period. He realizes this and now admits and sees that what he said could offend Muslims. But falls short of an apology. Booo hoooo
He wants to make a speech condemning violence he shouldn't have made one that begets violence. This is much bigger than what it seems to you. He's the leader of a population of 1 billion people, saying something as unneccissary as this to that kind of audiance when it could easily be misunderstood by many as a "be careful of those Muslims who are taught nothing but evil." This is a hate seed being planted in the minds of millions.
You think those people haven't already thought along similar lines for a while now?TecK NeeX said:This is much bigger than what it seems to you. He's the leader of a population of 1 billion people, saying something as unneccissary as this to that kind of audiance when it could easily be misunderstood by many as a "be careful of those Muslims who are taught nothing but evil." This is a hate seed being planted in the minds of millions.
Glockmatic said:The quran was never flushed down the toilet, it was reported by Newsweek but they later retracted it. The murder of 15 people is a greater attack on islam than a fake story.
I guess he was expecting people who followed a religion of peace to be peaceful.
You think those people haven't already thought along similar lines for a while now?
Jokerman said:An Italian nun was shot and killed in Somalia. That's showing the Pope.
TecK NeeX said:Great, I killed a person, than the brother of that person goes and kills me only to find out I wasn't that guy that killed him after all. Great way of thinking Glock :thumb:
And I guess he was expecting the people of this religion to sit tight and welcome his remarks right?
Glockmatic said:What? That wasn't even what i said. I said that 15 innocent people being murdered is more damaging to islam than a quran being put into a toilet.
Or condemn the remarks, not burn churches, kill 80 year old nuns and threatening to murder the pope.
Not surprising you didnt understand what I meant by that analogy. You said the story 'turned' out to be a fake as if that makes it alright. Newsweek "retracted' it after the damage was done. Yeah Great. Fake or not, it's irrelevant.
Can you not comprehend whats going around you? "or condemn" the remarks as if the whole population acted in violence. The majority did, the few didnt and resorted to violence, You point them out but you didnt even give a mention to the majority that just "demanded" an apology from the pope.
Glockmatic said:Teck being confusing? No wayyyyy
Where did i say the whole muslim population was rioting in violence? And the whole point of the Popes speech was focused on the violent individuals in islam, they proved that what was written 600 years ago is still true.