DeeezNuuuts83 said:
Yeah putting an auto in the Evo's kinda destroys what the car stands for. FUN
Opinions on Mitsubishi Evo IX?
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Yeah putting an auto in the Evo's kinda destroys what the car stands for. FUN
That's why God invented Tiptronic, for all the rich fags who want to feel cool in their Porsches but don't know how to use a clutch.PELLA said:
And by the way, only 300 more miles to go before my baby is all broken in... then it's nothing but accelerating to redline, at least until it gets old or I can't afford the gas or I get pulled over.
U.S.-spec Evo IXs are all rated at 286 hp and 289 lb.-ft, both of which many claim are underrated from the factory.PELLA said:
Driving downtown tonight I saw 6 Sti's(not the ugly ass new ones either, the dope shit) and 3 WRX's all of them had after market everything practically, it was a club or something, racing the streets of denver. We were riding with them for a little bit but wow. They are fucking fast, now I've driven stock ones but these guys, shit was crazy. One guys 0-60 was easily 4 secs. I have never seen an AWD car spin it's tires for that long on a take off, shit was incredible. But the point of this is that, an Evo pulled up and lost, lost bad. They dont call that car the Ferrari killer for no reason, shit was crazy. The Evo looked dumb compared to these but haha. There was no real point of this just had a cool story to tell.
What kind of Evo was it? Stock? A VIII or a IX? I'm guessing it was an VIII since they are a lot more common. Regardless, there are some insanely fast STis out there. The only problem is that they are expensive to mod in comparison to Evos, which have been dyno-proven to yield an additional 30 wheel horsepower (translating to 40-45 crankshaft horsepower) just from an ECU reflash that costs around $400. With STis, the 2.5-liter doesn't respond as well to mods, plus if you want to have a killer STi you're gonna have to throw down extra cash for the front-mount intercooler and cut up your front bumper beam. Do you have any idea as to what the STi had? It definitely sounds fast.Aristotle said:
Nice pics, colour is sexy as fuck. I fuckin love Evo's, currently saving up for a used VII. My bro's got a Supra which is sexy so i need one quicker than that! :thumb:
DeeezNuuuts83 said:
Let's say you want to put an STi and a IX up to 400+ engine HP both. How would the Evo be much cheaper?
I'm no expert, but I'll try to explain. Firstly, consider the fact that I am talking only about U.S.-spec models. I have been a member of various WRX/STi and Evo message forums since both cars' introductions, checking them very frequently. From my understanding, the U.S.-spec STi can easily make 320-340 hp, but anything beyond that begins to require a lot of tuning and big mods beyond simple bolt-ons, including the front-mount intercooler installation, which can easily eat up $1000. (Keep in mind that the U.S.-spec STi motor has really only been around since 2004, whereas the U.S.-spec Evo motor is just an evolution of the 4G63 that has been used for what, 13-14 years? This means that tuners already have a pretty good understanding of the motor and how it will react to certain types of mods.) Simply put, I think the parts for the Evo are cheaper, and the mods necessary to get to certain hp levels above 350 are fewer. In addition, the Evo motor is known for being durable and handling assloads of power, whereas the U.S.-spec STi motor is susceptible to things like pinging and the ECU pulling timing when mods come into play. When I get home from work, I'll do a bit more research and post it here if you want.Duke said:Let's say you want to put an STi and a IX up to 400+ engine HP both. How would the Evo be much cheaper?
Truthfully I have no idea what these STi's had. I was just trying to keep up most of the time. The Evo was brand new MR, still had temp plates.DeeezNuuuts83 said:
As far as mods go I would think parts for each car run about the same, or not enough of a difference to make that big of a deal. Although the engine block at least has been here longer it makes no difference nowadays. Our technology is far too advanced for anytime period really to mean anything anymore. Plus guys making these Stage 3 Kits and all aren't going into every detail like Ferrari or something. So I mean I really don't see a reason why the parts for an STi would b that much more.
Aristotle said:
Well maybe the individual parts aren't any more expensive, but if i follow Deeez correctly, the Evo gets more out of more simple mods, whereas with the Subis you need to do other, more expensive, mods to get more power.
That's pretty much what I was trying to say. But I did a bit of research, and I looked up a tuner that specializes in both cars to have a more fair price comparison, as opposed to using one tuner that specializes in one car and another tuner that specializes in another. Vishnu (www.vishnutuning.com) works on both cars, and here is one example:Duke said:
STi 400 hp package (0-60 mph in 3.7 seconds, quarter-mile in 12.0 seconds @ 118 mph): $4090-4935 (depending on which exhaust the buyer wants and if they opt for the optional piggyback ECU thing)
Evo VIII (keep in mind this is not a IX package since they aren't available yet) 390 hp package (0-60 mph in 3.8 seconds, quarter-mile in 12.1 seconds @ 114 mph): $2325-3345 (also depending on which exhaust the buyer wants and if they opt for the optional piggyback ECU thing)
These packages alone, you have similar horsepower (difference of 10, but keep the starting point in mind since the STi starts out with 300), similar 0-60 times (difference of 0.1 seconds), similar quarter-mile times (difference of 0.1 seconds) and trap speeds (difference of 4 mph, a little more significant), but with a price difference of $1600-1700, in favor of the Evo. For the same price you pay for the 400 hp STi package, you could get the 550 hp Evo package which does 0-60 in 3.1 and the quarter mile in 11.4 @ 125. And this is an example of what I mean. It's just easier and less costly to turn the Evo into an even bigger beast, especially when you want beyond 350 hp. I'm sure looking at other tuners who do both cars will yield similar findings.
^ Why, so I can scrape when pulling into driveways and drive diagonally over speed bumps? Been there, done that. No thanks.
I would only consider it if I were to buy rims of a larger diameter, which I probably won't. The stock suspension already handles like a dream and is way more than what I'll ever need in terms of performance, so anything aftermarket in that department would be purely for cosmetic reasons in most cases. And I'm over the whole "doing it to make my car look cooler" bullshit. It's an Evo!
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