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[StatiC]

 

[StatiC]

where are all the pro-zionist pro-israeli folks gone?? You never fail to defend israel, where are you now?

 

[PuffnScruff]

why dont you tell us how you really feel

 

[Jokerman]

Yeah, that's amazing how gentle Israel is with these people considering what they've been going through with suicide bombings. Thanks for the proof of Israel's relative kindness.

 

[Morris]

Maybe if there weren't dozens of instances of Palestinian children being used or volunteering to commit suicide bombings or use guns or explosives, these types of checkpoints wouldn't be necessary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber

And honestly, why are Palestinian children holding a sign in English saying it was their right to learn and reach their schools at the 56 sscond mark of that video? American kids that age probably couldn't have made that sign, let alone Palestinians. After seeing that, it seems obvious that they (and whoever gave that kid a sign in English) were more interested in making a propaganda scene than anything.

As for the 2nd video, you have Israeli soldiers breaking up fights. How terrible of them.

 

[StatiC]

Yeah, that's amazing how gentle Israel is with these people considering what they've been going through with suicide bombings. Thanks for the proof of Israel's relative kindness.

The desperation of the Palestinians leads to suicide bombings.. desperation caused by the persecution they suffer on a daily basis from the Zionist Israelis.

 

[ARon]

You are out of your mind if you try to defend this. Yes both sides do bad things, but to try to justify this is horrible. Who cares who did what, this instance, what we see on this video is bad. Simple as that. Remember what Gandhi said? Makin an excuse for these kids, something is wrong with you. Of course that sign is propaganda, what else would it be. Who else is gonna help or has the power to try to do something, even though we wont. Kids being attacked on their way home from school, awesome, servers em right doesnt it, grow up, shit is sad.

 

[Morris]

The desperation of the Palestinians leads to suicide bombings.. desperation caused by the persecution they suffer on a daily basis from the Zionist Israelis.

Palestinian have been attacking Jews in that region since the 1920s, before Israel was created. They were bombing Israelis since the 1940s, 20 years before Israel occupied the West Bank or Gaza Strip.

 

[StatiC]

Palestinian have been attacking Jews in that region since the 1920s, before Israel was created. They were bombing Israelis since the 1940s, 20 years before Israel occupied the West Bank or Gaza Strip.

no they were not attacking jews since the 1920's. There existed some trouble, (coming from extremist jews) but all in all in all there was cohesion between the two communities. We are seeing the worst form of terrorism coming from the Israelis... occupying land illegal (under UN resolutions), using illegal weapons and ammunition (Dum dum bullets banned under UN resolution), killed, persecuted and humiliated for being arabs. Houses demolshed, children getting slaughtered by the israeli "defence" force, whole generations of familes being wiped out in "accidental" bombings. The brave Palestinians without the 3 billion dollars a year funding from america are limited to their gurrella type techniques.

 

[Morris]

no they were not attacking jews since the 1920's. There existed some trouble, (coming from extremist jews) but all in all in all there was cohesion between the two communities.

If you call full scale Arab riots that killed half a thousand Jews in the 1920s "cohesion," then you're correct. And feel free to define "extremist Jews" for us. What were they going to be extremist about in the 1920s? There was no "occupation" and no Israel.

occupying land illegal (under UN resolutions),

This is not true. You won't find a UN resolution that makes Israel's occupation of the territories illegal.

using illegal weapons and ammunition (Dum dum bullets banned under UN resolution),

what are "dum dum bullets?"

killed, persecuted and humiliated for being arabs.

Israel has over a million Arabs living in its borders. They're the only Arabs in the region that participate in a democratic society and have full and fair representation in government.

Israel isn't killing Palestinians because they're Arabs. Israel kills Palestinians to defend against the incessant terrorism they face coming from territories that are among the most densely populated on the planet. The fact that more Palestinians aren't killed is a testament to how careful the IDF is in urban warfare.

The brave Palestinians without the 3 billion dollars a year funding from america are limited to their gurrella type techniques.

The Palestinians get the most foreign aid per capita among any people in the world.

 

[Kareem]

but yet i see no mention of the bombing of the King David hotel which killed innocent people, jews, brits and arab alike. No Jew's would never resort to such terrorist acts!

 

[StatiC]

This is not true. You won't find a UN resolution that makes Israel's occupation of the territories illegal.

UN resolution 242; It calls for the "withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict" and the "termination of all claims or states of belligerency".

 

[Morris]

UN resolution 242; It calls for the "withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict" and the "termination of all claims or states of belligerency".

UN Resolution 242 calls for the withdrawal of Israel to secure and defensible borders. Notice that the resolution doesn't call on Israel to withdraw from all of the territories it had occupied. Also, the resolution calls for a withdrawal in conjunction with its enemies recognizing their sovereignty.

First of all, nobody would mistake the pre 1967 borders for being secure and defensible. Second of all, the PLO and Arab world rejected 242 and the Palestinians still haven't recognized Israeli sovereignty.

UN Resolution 242 doesn't call on Israel to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Otherwise it would have specifically mentioned a withdrawal to the Armistice lines (the pre 1967 borders).

 

[Morris]

but yet i see no mention of the bombing of the King David hotel which killed innocent people, jews, brits and arab alike. No Jew's would never resort to such terrorist acts!

There are terrorists of every faith, race and ethnicity in every country. If you want to discuss the King David Hotel bombing, or pre-Israel activities by Jewish terrorist groups, make a thread about it.

 

[ill-matic]

UN Resolution 242 calls for the withdrawal of Israel to secure and defensible borders. Notice that the resolution doesn't call on Israel to withdraw from all of the territories it had occupied. Also, the resolution calls for a withdrawal in conjunction with its enemies recognizing their sovereignty.

First of all, nobody would mistake the pre 1967 borders for being secure and defensible. Second of all, the PLO and Arab world rejected 242 and the Palestinians still haven't recognized Israeli sovereignty.

UN Resolution 242 doesn't call on Israel to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Otherwise it would have specifically mentioned a withdrawal to the Armistice lines (the pre 1967 borders).

dude, that shits just an issue of semantics. it's all up for contention.

 

[Khaled]

What amazes me is that some Jews still wonder why people hate them.

 

[Glockmatic]

What amazes me is that some Jews still wonder why people hate them.

Ya, because there are a lot of fucking idiots in the world

 

[Morris]

dude, that shits just an issue of semantics. it's all up for contention.

Of course it's about semantics, which is why lawyers craft these things so carefully.

Resolution 242, which as undersecretary of state for political affairs between 1966 and 1969 I helped produce, calls on the parties to make peace and allows Israel to administer the territories it occupied in 1967 until "a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" is achieved. - Eugene V. Rostow

The notable omissions - which were not accidental - in regard to withdrawal are the words "the" or "all" and the "June 5, 1967 lines" ... the resolution speaks of withdrawal from occupied territories without defining the extent of withdrawal. [This would encompass] less than a complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from occupied territory, inasmuch as Israel's prior frontiers had proved to be notably Insecure. - U.S. Ambassador to the UN Arthur Goldberg

It would have been wrong to demand that Israel return to its positions of June 4, 1967, because those positions were undesirable and artificial. After all, they were just the places where the soldiers of each side happened to be on the day the fighting stopped in 1948. They were just armistice lines. That's why we didn't demand that the Israelis return to them. - Lord Caradon, British Ambassador to the UN

In fact, Resolution 242 passed only after America insisted that "all" had no place in it. The United Nations instead referred to the need to arrive at "secure and recognized" boundaries.