My little sister, Tupac, Pumpkins, and discrimination... I need your help..

[Morris]

Brown had every right to murder those holding slaves captive.

Not only is that justification absurd on its face, but the people Brown murdered weren't even slaveholders. He murdered people from proslavery families who supported making Kansas a state where slavery would be allowed.

Among the people you claim deserved death were teenagers.

but I will argue that he was the first to make the voyage. Therefore, he didn't discover the Americas, contrary to what we teach our children in school.

Nobody even argues this. I'm older than you and learned all about Red and Leif Ericsson and the Vikings going to Iceland/Greenland and possibly North America.

Columbus's voyage was important because it discovered the New World for the Western Euoprean powers, ushering in the Golden Age of Discovery and colonial imperialism that set the historical chain of events in motion all the way up until today. That's worth celebrating to me.

Nobody's a saint. I've posted over 7000 times on a message board dedicated to a man who was banned from performing in my home city of Milwaukee due to his violent antics at a concert in 94. What a weird thread this turned into, considering Pac was obviously no stranger to violence.

 

[Dante]

I do not disagree that Columbus's voyage was important, it allowed for the genocide of the native Americans to take place, but I will argue that he was the first to make the voyage. Therefore, he didn't discover the Americas, contrary to what we teach our children in school.

oh jesus christ. how dense can one BOY be?

columbus discovered the americas from the european recount of history. if you don't like it, haul your ass to ghana and pick up a book. we don't need your kind in my country.

you're blindly hostile and i think you're more passionate about bucking the system than you are about being correct in doing so.

let's recap...

*dante uses lowercase, and this guy misspells and has no idea how to express himself in text.
*ghandi was a useless bigot.
*it's okay to murder if it's under the pretext of the slaying of a slave owner.
*it's okay that slavery has existed since the dawn of civilization, we only use selective episodes to support our statements.
*america was built on the blood of the non-whites, and in general it and the world suck tremendously.
*the distorted arguments of a confessed drug abuser who is still in his teens is right, everyone else is wrong.

did i miss anything?

 

[EDouble]

all i know is when dante started cuttin into this 'dumb ass honkey, crackerfied son of a bitch" shit, edub almost fell out of the Chair. it was unexpected

 

[Tally2005]

In gangster movies, there is a script written by someone, and an actor portrays that role, and that actor's skills come through in the form of the accuracy of their portrayal and how well they bring life to the character. In rap music, the script writer and the rapper is (usually) one and the same person--the rapper--but that person's skills aren't in the portrayal (delivery, when it comes to rap) but in the lyrics. While Al Pacino is praised for his portrayal of a paranoid refugee-turned-drug kingpin, he's not out at night snorting moutains of cocaine while toting an M-16 with an attached grenade launcher off of the movie set.

Fact - Al Pacino was arrested for gun charges and gun trafficing during his early 20's
(I wonder why he played the role so perfectly :laugh: )

oh jesus christ. how dense can one BOY be?

columbus discovered the americas from the european recount of history. if you don't like it, haul your ass to ghana and pick up a book. we don't need your kind in my country.

you're blindly hostile and i think you're more passionate about bucking the system than you are about being correct in doing so.

let's recap...

Fact - New scientific findings say that the ship that landed on Canada is from Viking origin
Fact - Vikings are European
Fact - Vikings weren't taken serious becuase they weren't considered humane etc,. etc
Fact - Dante is an ass lol

anyways, Dante I don't why you try to justify Columbus actions of rape, homicide, and the taking of people against their own free will, it sickens me how you say that its becuase it was a common practice I don't see George Washinton, Ben Franklin, etc. going around raping Native Americans and saying its common practice I don't care if it even was practiced through out history. Those who probably used it would acknowledge it was morally wrong becuase its just basic human instinct.

 

[Preach]

^^
oh god. you are so smart. you just solved the mystery of the universe.

 

[DrugBa11ad]

^^ Go ahead and be sarcastic, but at least he doesn't excuse genocide.

 

[Morris]

I don't see George Washinton, Ben Franklin, etc. going around raping Native Americans

Washington made his military career out of killing Indians. In fact, he was the primary reason the French and Indian War started. Also, since he owned about 100 slaves, according to you he deserved death.

I don't know what any of this has to do with Pac anymore though, so it should be closed. In the meantime you should probably read a few history books and get acquainted with facts.

 

[kingdizzy]

my opinion, it seems the teacher meant someone that had more significant impact on the world, not taking anything from 2pac, but the teacher was thinking on a bigger scale it seems.

it does disturb me that they would refuse to display someone's art that im sure they worked hard on, simply because the teacher didnt put limitations on the project.

 

[Snowman]

Drug, wheres the Pic of the pumpkin?

Nov 4th i imagine the pumpkin is starting to rot an wont be available for the photo shoot.

Christmas time coming up if your sister is taking Art classes suggest to her about making a "Thug Life" ornament.

 

[Dante]

Drug, wheres the Pic of the pumpkin?

Nov 4th i imagine the pumpkin is starting to rot an wont be available for the photo shoot.

Christmas time coming up if your sister is taking Art classes suggest to her about making a "Thug Life" ornament.

it's not going to happen because all of this mess was his rouse to show us all how smart and antiestablishment he is.

 

[Preach]

^^ Go ahead and be sarcastic, but at least he doesn't excuse genocide.

it's not about excusing.

would you say bears are vicious and pure evil because they use their paws to smack their opponent or food around till it dies? or are they excused because they don't know better or because it's instinct? that's just for your genocide excuse remark to prove how fucking stupid it is. no need to get hung up on me though, i'm not fixing to discuss morals and good vs. evil pertaining to bears with you, mate. i'm just gonna say that dood, you need to like start getting high and get some of that anger up out of you because it's gonna kill you.

hello, i'm a human being, i'm a beast. what else is new.

 

[Tally2005]

Washington made his military career out of killing Indians. In fact, he was the primary reason the French and Indian War started. Also, since he owned about 100 slaves, according to you he deserved death.

I don't know what any of this has to do with Pac anymore though, so it should be closed. In the meantime you should probably read a few history books and get acquainted with facts.

what does raping have to do with killing, I rather die if I was raped or if my freedom was taken away,
Yes he did owned slaves, but in the end they were freed and given free education

In the French and Indian War both sides had Native Americans, they died fighting, they weren't slaughtered, theres a difference but it seems you can't se...... lets leave it like it is, I don't want to insult your intelligence like you said this is drifting away from pac

Preach
man theres just nothing to say to you.... your telling me back then people didn't have morals, they were so stupid HUMAN instinct never kicked in? Theres a reason why we are humans becuase we could decide, we could use our brains, we have alternatives, bears don't.