Rukas said:I think you're just jealous cause he has a better social life then you.

Silly statment. According to the guy the dad obviously neglects his family in favour of his "buddies" & therefor hurts the people that actually love him in favour of some clowns. The guy acts like a 22 year old bachelor living in the bar scene, when infact the guy has 2 kids and a wife to feed (and provide support) waiting for him at home.Rukas said:Why is clubbing and drinking bad? As long as he can still pay your bills and isnt hurting anyway let him have his fun. I hope I can still have a good time when Im his age. I think you're just jealous cause he has a better social life then you.
Dude goes to work, puts food on the table, he can do what he likes. You want him to be an old fuddy duddy to make you feel better? Come on thats not fair. Let the man live his life stop trying to put him in an old age home before his time.
Rukas said:Why is clubbing and drinking bad? As long as he can still pay your bills and isnt hurting anyway let him have his fun. I hope I can still have a good time when Im his age. I think you're just jealous cause he has a better social life then you.
Dude goes to work, puts food on the table, he can do what he likes. You want him to be an old fuddy duddy to make you feel better? Come on thats not fair. Let the man live his life stop trying to put him in an old age home before his time.
Lok said:Silly statment. According to the guy the dad obviously neglects his family in favour of his "buddies" & therefor hurts the people that actually love him in favour of some clowns. The guy acts like a 22 year old bachelor living in the bar scene, when infact the guy has 2 kids and a wife to feed (and provide support) waiting for him at home.
Friends come & go, trying to impress them is a complete waste of time. You'd think a 55 year old would figure it out by now.
Providing support doesn't mean tucking him in to bed. It's psychological just as it's physical. Maybe he needs to talk to someone or WHATEVER, he should be there & be a dad. The fact that the son goes to college doesn't mean that the dad is off the hook. being a parent is a 24/7/365 job until the die you pass.Rukas said:Thats bullshit. The dude that posted this is already a grown man, hes going off to college soon. He doesnt need his dad to be home to tuck him in to bed at 8pm and read him a bed time story.
He doesnt state that hes neglecting his wife either, just that he goes out, has bought a cell phone, and goes to bars. Oh no!!! He drinks beer and talks on the phone!!!
Give the dude a break he has a right to a phone and to his friends. He isnt dead.
Kryogenikz said:that might be you one day...maybe not 2 that extent, but your son might look at you...go online 2 his own forums and be like "all my dad do is listen 2 this crappy rap music all day and 2 this guy that's been dead for like 40 years named 2pac" lol
Lok said:Providing support doesn't mean tucking him in to bed. It's psychological just as it's physical. Maybe he needs to talk to someone or WHATEVER, he should be there & be a dad. The fact that the son goes to college doesn't mean that the dad is off the hook. being a parent is a 24/7/365 job until the die you pass.
If being out all night with your "friends", barely spending any time at home (as the guy said he barely sees him, therefor the wife probably doesn't see him much either) & making family choices all by himself without consulting anyone doesn't count as neglecting I dont know what is.
As far as I know this isn't even the case, im just playing the advocate for the guy.
S O F I S T I K said:^I can see where you're coming from, but all you're doing is judging AmerikazMost without even knowing the dude. He obviously knows his father better than you, and coming up with some idiotic statements like "He probably has a better social life than you" is just wrong. The problem with his dad is he tends to neglect his family, obviously. Just because he puts food on the table doesn't make him a good father. Just because AmerikazMost is 18, it doesn't exclude his father from being a parent anymore. His father has a tattoo and did not even tell his wife. Is there a good reason to that?
Belle said:Nothing wrong with going out & having a good time. Nothing wrong with having friends.
Adults, especially parents, just gota find a balance between the 2. You cant neglect one & over-do the other. And adults, especially parents, need to do the 'maturity' thing. Being a parent means you put your childs needs before your own. If (for example), your kid needs a cell phone (like AmerikazMost is sayin), you dont go out and buy a cool one for yourself (coz your boys have one) and disregard what the family needs.
True, hes not dead & he has a right to live his life. But getting married & having children also put responsibilities on him & therefore he doesnt only have to look after himself. He signed up to look after others too.
Please tell me where did I twist shit up or made up facts? All my Assumptions reguarding this whole case came from the first post in which the thread maker posted up all the info. The reason why I made the last comment in my previous statment is INCASE the guy that made this thread didn't say everything & there are some other factors regarding this whole situation that werent mentioned.Rukas said:Well thats pretty fucking stupid of you to do. Why play devils advocate and make up hypotheticals when we are dealing with a real world situation? Thats irresponsible of you. You want to disprove me so much that you're making shit up and labeling it being a "devils advocate." Bullshit, you're just twisting shit so you dont have to admit you are being wrong.
I could sit here and say how the family sucks, maybe they treat the dude like shit. The mom cheats on him and the son smokes crack in the house and beats on his dad. Thats why he goes out with his friends, to escape from that. But thats bullshit too, and it would be disrespectful to the guy who made this post; but its exactly what you are doing except to the other extream.
The fact is, the guy obviously has an alright life, he is lucky to have a dad, hes off to college soon, a college paid for by his fathers work. They arent poor, his dad puts food on the table. So whats the big deal? He bought a cell phone? Wow. He got a tattoo? So what. He is his own man, its not this kids life to live, its his fathers. When you become a parent you dont die. You dont drop your friends or stop having fun. The way I see the dad put in his 20 years to raise the kid and has a right to drink beer with his buddies or get a cell phone or a tat if he wants to. Its none of this kids fucking business.
I think dude has insecurities about being out on his own in the world and still wants his daddy, thats why it annoys him that his dad is being his own man and not there to look after him like he had to when he was a child.