Militant's Rant against people who can't mind their own damn business

[Casey]

Thanks

Anytime.

 

[Prize Gotti]

Well, I for one think you are completely off base. The ban has been implemented a few years in Norway so maybe my opinion is full of bias, but I used to think this to begin with.

Then, thinking about it, I realized that a person who doesn't smoke cigarettes but is exposed to second-hand smoke on a frequent basis has a substantially higher chance of developing illnesses that are fatal at an earlier than average age. You just made a hypocrite out of yourself. You want her to respect your opinion that the ban is stupid and that you are "standing like 3 meters from her, wtf", and at the same time, you call her stupid and use her obesity against her. I bet on a subconscious level you may even have thought less of her for being fat, shown by your obvious hatred towards people who like pies lol.

And you are a grown man now. You didn't have to stand RIGHT outside the bus stop. Cause then you make it into a stupid thing, like, okay another 20 centimeters and it's illegal. You are fucking up the whole purpose of the ban, which is that smokers have themselves to blame for their habit and they should walk the walk, not the random person who doesn't smoke. When I go outside to smoke at work, I don't just stand by the entrance, I actually move several meters away and stand somewhere where people don't pass by. I do this out of respect, because when there's a new rule that people need to become accustomed to and understand, you need to be principal.

And when someone says "I reserve the right to smoke" they really just mean "I don't have what it takes to quit". Be that strength, emotions or will.

There is no purpose of the ban in a bus stop, it is not an enclosed space, its only banned in a bus stop because it is council property. Being the law obiding citizen that Mili is, he obided by the rules and stood outside the bus stop. Either in or out of the bus stop, he did not impare this womens health, being in open space means the smoke disperses into the air and away before it has a chance to reach the mouth of any person standing nearby, with the only exception being when he is stood directly next to this women and blowing the smoke in her face. Mili is completely right on this subject.

 

[Cooper]

It is banned in bus stops because it has a roof and is enclosed from more than 2 sides.

 

[Prize Gotti]

It is banned in bus stops because it has a roof and is enclosed from more than 2 sides.

It still windy as fuck in one of those mother fuckers, and the bus stops where i live don't have plastic sides, they are green metal ones that are made from a grill.

 

[Preach]

You are the one who is off base! (said in Jay from Jay & Silent Bob voice)

I don't want her to respect my opinion that the ban is stupid. I could care less if she thinks its a great idea and jumps for joy. The point is, she was insinuating that I was breaking the law. Which I wasn't.

I will not comment on this right now, but later on in the post.

The fat/obsesity/pies thing, don't take it so seriously dude. I have no hatred towards people who eat pies, where the fuck did that come from? I didn't even notice her, and would not have done, if she had not tried to call me out on that bullshit.

You are reading into things that aren't there. On a subconscious level I think less of her for being fat? Um, how about NOT AT ALL.

Well, what can I say. The obvious would be "and I wasn't being that serious about it which is why I added a lol at the end, trying to lighten the mood a little or whatever". I don't care, the way you describer her was pretty disrespectful and even for being heat-of-the-moment type of stuff there could be a fatty out there who read it and got truly hurt. Sure it wouldn't kill her to chill down on the pies a little, lol, but you misunderstand people if you think anyone deserves to hear that, so you have nothing to justify the way you described her other than "I don't give a shit, I was joking". Fair enough though, hey, I could probably blurt out a disrespectful remark too you know. I know that people have flaws. But uh...

Preach, I'm starting to worry about you man. You are ridiculously paranoid, it's honestly quite worrying. You should chill on the skunk dude, I think it's frying your brain slightly. Learn to take things at face value - most of the time, things really are as simple as they appear to be. That's the best advice I can give you man.

You are moronic making that assumption about me. Paranoia and insecurity is something I've dealt with my whole life and for the most part overcome. I enjoy great success in my life right now if you must know. I lost 45 pounds, I am putting in work and making money and loving it, I had a great vacation at Chronic's place, I have found new ways to spend my time and I have friends who show me great respect. You have no idea what you are talking about, "man".

I did have to stand right outside the bus stop, because I could either stand there, or stand in the middle of the road. It was nowhere near the actual entrance to the bus stop, which was on the other side (it has like see through plastic so you can see inside). Basically it's the equivalent of smoking outside a restaurant and someone pointing through the window of the restaurant to a no smoking sign inside and saying it. No difference.

I was standing nowhere near where anyone would have to walk past.

Fair enough.

And I disagree with your last comment. I have never said I reserve the right to smoke. And I could quit right this second if I wanted to. I have before, for months at a time. I smoke because I enjoy it, not because I'm addicted, I'm not. That's the difference - most people I know that smoke and they say they're addicted and want to quit but can't or whatever, they smoke like a pack a day. I can't even fathom smoking that much, I smoke on average, 2 cigarettes a day.

Great for you. Really. That wasn't my point though.

Preach....please chill out on the weed buddy. Go and see a shrink if you need to. Every post you make it's becoming clearer that you're turning into some kind of light-sensitive emo who sits in front of his computer smoking weed all day and over analysing every situation, thinking way too much about everything.

Refer to what I said above. I am really into psychology, have taken some work courses in that direction, and am in the process of reading through a few books. I don't need to see a shrink, thank you very much. I know how the human mind works and do not need someone to explain to me what differs real depression from emo feelings. I am fully capable of casting that judgment on myself at any time. I don't get why you get that impression from me though. You're the fucking emo lol.

You're coming across as really insecure man, I hate to say it. I think you need some sober reflection time and some self-esteem boosting. It's really obvious to anyone reading most of your posts.

Okay buddy. Thanks for the tip.

I think this situation with this girl has thrown you for a loop as well.....you are at that self-deprecating point where you think too much about your own flaws and just accept them for what they are. I've seen you do it and say things like that numerous times now. Think positively, change yoursef for the better, you need to learn how to be assertive and you need some self confidence, that's all it is man.

I've always said, you should live your life as if there's Hollywood camera following you all the time. Act like you're the hottest, greatest guy in the world (you can do this without coming off as an asshole, it's about balance).

Put yourself across one way - and people will treat you that way. It's that simple. That's exactly why you're in the situation that you are with this chick where you are well and truly stuck in the friend zone.

You just have the world all figured out don't you, you imbecile? Refer to this post of mine:
http://www.streethop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=737975&postcount=38

The woman who was sitting at the bus stop was an individual. For whatever reason, her impulses made her say to you "don't you see the no smoking sign?" For a man who talks about changing for the better, how about this perspective: The woman has lived a life, a lot longer than yours. She has seen a lot more than you, and had a lot more impressions and emotions. This makes her more biased, but at the same time, if you want to strive for becoming a better person, how about understanding the neurological point of view to this. As I mentioned in my post, through different impressions, experiences and emotions, we all create different pictures of the universe in our brain.

Imagine that you were to make a map of england. On this map you want all the information about england. About every street, every household, every person, every tree, every living creature or organism, every rock, every damn atom. You have the full map of england now, right? No, you also have to put england's history and culture into the map, and its different personalities. Its kings and its queens. Every flow of energy. There is so much going on in the world that you could never have a complete "map" of england. Much by the same principle, you can never have a "complete" understanding of "the universe" or "the world". If you want to strive at becoming a better person, as you so gallantly put it, how about opening up to the idea that there are other people out there who have a completely different view of the world than you, and respect their opinions.

All she did was make a remark about you smoking because you're not supposed to smoke and you were probably standing borderline close and she wanted to make a principle about it because soon as you start slacking on a law, well, you know what happens. The law was put there to protect people's health, and who knows, maybe she was an nurse having seen lots of people die of cancer due to smoking. Far-fetched, but you get the idea of where I'm going? And you dare to try and lecture me about my mental health like I need a shrink to tell me what is going on inside my head and how that sits in the perspective of other people. Thank you man, really, you have saved me with your advice.

As for bringing my situation with a girl into this, heh, I'm not gonna try and deny that she has had a great influence on my life, but I think you are making the assumption that my happiness lies solely with the hope of being with her or something. I'm not a stupid dreamer when it comes to my own life, I'm a realist. You, again, have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Preach]

I'm also gonna repeat that I think it's a common misconception that I smoke more than I do.

 

[tugger13]

^I really like this post...exactly what I wanted to write, but in the spirit of the headline of the thread, I decided to let you 2 duke it out. Its funny when someone disses people who make ASSumptions but then make dozens of them in their own posts. This in addition to bringing up hurtful events to try to win their argument out of fear that they may be proven to have acted wrongly. Good lookin up Preach! Peace

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Good post Preach.

Anyway Westwood fuck outta here.

 

[hizzle?]

So I was at the bus stop yesterday having a cigarette when this obese jamaican bitch

black people I tell ya.

 

[Casey]

I will not comment on this right now, but later on in the post.

Well, what can I say. The obvious would be "and I wasn't being that serious about it which is why I added a lol at the end, trying to lighten the mood a little or whatever". I don't care, the way you describer her was pretty disrespectful and even for being heat-of-the-moment type of stuff there could be a fatty out there who read it and got truly hurt. Sure it wouldn't kill her to chill down on the pies a little, lol, but you misunderstand people if you think anyone deserves to hear that, so you have nothing to justify the way you described her other than "I don't give a shit, I was joking". Fair enough though, hey, I could probably blurt out a disrespectful remark too you know. I know that people have flaws. But uh...

Preach, you are not the moral defender of the people. That's not your job. Don't try and come at me like you've NEVER said anything that's borderline hurtful about someone, even if they hadn't made the decision to try and speak on you and yours. And if you honestly claim you haven't, well, then I bow to you oh great and good one! I am humbled by your aura

You are moronic making that assumption about me. Paranoia and insecurity is something I've dealt with my whole life and for the most part overcome. I enjoy great success in my life right now if you must know. I lost 45 pounds, I am putting in work and making money and loving it, I had a great vacation at Chronic's place, I have found new ways to spend my time and I have friends who show me great respect. You have no idea what you are talking about, "man".

If you're readily admitting you've dealt with it your whole life, then how am I making an assumption? You've said it before too. And you don't have to tick off the boxes of reasons why [xyz] - it means nothing. Plenty of people have more going for them than that and still have major issues to deal with.

Fair enough.

Great for you. Really. That wasn't my point though.

Refer to what I said above. I am really into psychology, have taken some work courses in that direction, and am in the process of reading through a few books. I don't need to see a shrink, thank you very much. I know how the human mind works and do not need someone to explain to me what differs real depression from emo feelings. I am fully capable of casting that judgment on myself at any time. I don't get why you get that impression from me though. You're the fucking emo lol.

How so? Your statement of "I know how the human mind works" completely contradicts your entire next paragraph about individuality and "the idea that there are other people out there who have a completely different view of the world than you", and reading some books about psychology doesn't suddenly give you an understanding into your own psyche, just like learning about guns wouldn't make a suicidal person stop wanting to cap themself.

You just have the world all figured out don't you, you imbecile? Refer to this post of mine:
http://www.streethop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=737975&postcount=38

The woman who was sitting at the bus stop was an individual. For whatever reason, her impulses made her say to you "don't you see the no smoking sign?" For a man who talks about changing for the better, how about this perspective: The woman has lived a life, a lot longer than yours. She has seen a lot more than you, and had a lot more impressions and emotions. This makes her more biased, but at the same time, if you want to strive for becoming a better person, how about understanding the neurological point of view to this. As I mentioned in my post, through different impressions, experiences and emotions, we all create different pictures of the universe in our brain.

Imagine that you were to make a map of england. On this map you want all the information about england. About every street, every household, every person, every tree, every living creature or organism, every rock, every damn atom. You have the full map of england now, right? No, you also have to put england's history and culture into the map, and its different personalities. Its kings and its queens. Every flow of energy. There is so much going on in the world that you could never have a complete "map" of england. Much by the same principle, you can never have a "complete" understanding of "the universe" or "the world". If you want to strive at becoming a better person, as you so gallantly put it, how about opening up to the idea that there are other people out there who have a completely different view of the world than you, and respect their opinions.

See the point above. Imbecile? That's a fresh one. Simpleton.

All she did was make a remark about you smoking because you're not supposed to smoke and you were probably standing borderline close and she wanted to make a principle about it because soon as you start slacking on a law, well, you know what happens. The law was put there to protect people's health, and who knows, maybe she was an nurse having seen lots of people die of cancer due to smoking. Far-fetched, but you get the idea of where I'm going? And you dare to try and lecture me about my mental health like I need a shrink to tell me what is going on inside my head and how that sits in the perspective of other people.

"You're not supposed to smoke". Says who? Last I checked this wasn't a fascist dictatorship. I'll do what I damn well please and I was doing nothing wrong here. I was not standing borderline close, I was in a complete different section as I've said on multiple times now.

Thank you man, really, you have saved me with your advice.

You're welcome.

As for bringing my situation with a girl into this, heh, I'm not gonna try and deny that she has had a great influence on my life, but I think you are making the assumption that my happiness lies solely with the hope of being with her or something. I'm not a stupid dreamer when it comes to my own life, I'm a realist. You, again, have no idea what you are talking about.

I never said anything of the sort. And I know exactly what I'm talking about. I've read some books about it and dealt with it all my life. I'm taking some work courses in that direction. :laugh:

 

[hizzle?]

I'm so not reading you guys anymore.

 

[Flipmo]

Militant, don't lie, your broke. I saw you selling Tupac t-shirt 2 for 1 on the corner of Canal street, NYC

 

[Da_Funk]

To everyone telling Militant off for putting the bitch in her place, fuck off. She said an assholish comment to him for no reason what so ever and you expect him to act like some polite gentleman? Fuck that noise.

 

[Euphanasia]

I'm so not reading you guys anymore.

Yeah, I think this has gotten out of hand. I usually enjoy threads where people with differences in opinions duke it out and have a discussion but this one is getting ridiculous. The fact is, I don't think anyone did anything terrible here. Maybe Militant overreacted and maybe he didn't. Who knows? I might have acted the same way but we weren't there. I think you guys should try to salvage your friendship before this gets really extreme, it's not worth it

 

[stefanwzyga]

All over a lady asking you not to smoke All you had to say was" Relax missus i aint in the bus stop" It really aint worth getting your nickers in a twist over.


I dont smoke an people blowing smoke in my face fucks me off.

 

[ill-matic]

Preach, you are not the moral defender of the people. That's not your job. Don't try and come at me like you've NEVER said anything that's borderline hurtful about someone, even if they hadn't made the decision to try and speak on you and yours. And if you honestly claim you haven't, well, then I bow to you oh great and good one! I am humbled by your aura



If you're readily admitting you've dealt with it your whole life, then how am I making an assumption? You've said it before too. And you don't have to tick off the boxes of reasons why [xyz] - it means nothing. Plenty of people have more going for them than that and still have major issues to deal with.

I TOLD you that what you said about Preach was disrespectful and insulting, but you think your words are acceptable purely because you are "friends"? Regardless of that it still doesn't discount from what you suggested about him, and I honestly don't blame him for replying to you in the way he did.

I think you honestly have a large problem with accepting other people's opinions, values and suggestions. You don't seem to be able to take criticisms well, because you go all defensive and shit, arguing against even the most minute and insignificant of points. I mean, a clear illustration of this is you trashing Preach's character, portraying him as an unstable, paranoid emo - which was solely prompted by him going against your initial post.

Lighten up a little... the world doesnt revolve around you bro, and you are not always right. keep that shit in mind.

How so? Your statement of "I know how the human mind works" completely contradicts your entire next paragraph about individuality and "the idea that there are other people out there who have a completely different view of the world than you", and reading some books about psychology doesn't suddenly give you an understanding into your own psyche, just like learning about guns wouldn't make a suicidal person stop wanting to cap themself.

In what way does it contradict his next paragraph? He is trying to convey the idea that he can empathise with this woman and see things from her point of view. Like we both said before - she was, perhaps, very conscious about her health and safety, or perhaps as Preach suggested, she might be some nurse who works in the cancer ward or some shit. You never know.. most of the time this stuff can't just be shrugged off as being an unwarranted attack on you, despite it being annoying as fuck and interfering with the enjoyment of your ciggarette. That's the point here.. and what Preach said about having an understanding of how the mind works doesn't at all discount anything he said proceeding that.

"You're not supposed to smoke". Says who? Last I checked this wasn't a fascist dictatorship. I'll do what I damn well please and I was doing nothing wrong here. I was not standing borderline close, I was in a complete different section as I've said on multiple times now.

umm says who? Say's your countries legislation for one. Yeh, you're right, it's not a fascist dictatorship but laws are put in place for a reason. You'll do damn well what you please? Thanks, that gives more credence to my suggestions of your arrogance. If everyone did "damn well what they pleased" then society wouldn't function. You're a cool rockstar, but you aint above the law buddy.

 

[Rahim]

i see your concern militant..i feel your pain

 

[Preach]

Basically, ill-matic this time summed up what I want to say. Firstly, the first paragraph you responded to you said "if you honestly tell me you never.. blah blah" and give me a rolleyes when in the same fucking paragraph i cut you some slack saying "i guess i could have done it too, so, fair enough, i see your point if you dont agree with me on this one"... so why even make the point you made of being humbled by my aura?

I am open to my flaws, yet open to other people's opinions as well. This really makes me excel in life, because the way i meet people makes me likable, and the way i treat them makes me selfless, and the way i feel makes me happy, so it's a win-win-win thing. You, on the other hand, seem to only have the happiness and then you have the other traits partially. At least I TRY to take other people into my equation, something you did not when you got pissed with her and responded disrespectfully.

As far as supposed to smoke, i meant where you were standing at the time. You obviously feel she violated you and she obviously feel you violated her. Your violation compromises her health and she has the right to take over-protective precautions for something that's the most important thing in life. Her violation included insulting your desire for freedom and your independence. Or something. You were the one who should have complied, not her, and you made her when you responded the way you did.

And to take it further into speculation, imagine how bad shed feel if you did move and said nothing. Maybe she would change as a person. You just made her bitter. Gl hf. Keep making more emo people.

 

[Casey]

I TOLD you that what you said about Preach was disrespectful and insulting, but you think your words are acceptable purely because you are "friends"? Regardless of that it still doesn't discount from what U suggested about him, and I honestly don't blame him for replying to you in the way he did.

That's fine. You have a different take on life than I do. I was never trying to change your mind, only see things partially from my perspective. In the same way, I try to partially see things from your perspective and maybe find some commnon ground. It's not always possible. I know that. My intention was not to disrespect, or insult, and I think you can probably see that. I have my fire, and my moments. I think you know if I really wanted to insult or disrespect someone....that's not how I would do it.

I think you honestly have a large problem with accepting other people's opinions, values and suggestions. You don't seem to be able to take criticisms well, because you go all defensive and shit, arguing against even the most minute & insignificant of points. I mean, an illustration of this is you trashing Preach's character, portraying him as an unstable, paranoid emo - which was solely prompted by him going against your initial post.

My problem with this point is this......it's hypocritical in the sense that by saying someone can't accept an opinion, in a way the same thing can be said about the person who is stating that. Do you know what I mean?

I was never attempting to character-trash. I called it how I saw it and it wasn't intended to discredit his opinion. Like I said, I'm picking up a pattern from Preach of late and it's not a good one. I'm fully ready to admit to I may be completely off - everyone makes mistakes. If Preach says his life is absolutely hunky-dory, he's happy with life, he is not in any way depressed, paranoid, even slightly mentally-shifted from smoking a lot of weed...then I'm wrong, and I'm happy to be wrong - I wish heaven for everyone.

Lighten up a little, the world doesnt revolve around you bro, and you are not always right. keep that shit in mind.

Hmmm...who's world? Yours? Preach's? Any individual reading this board? I don't look at life that way. The World is an infinite place when it comes to individual's thoughts, emotions, feelings, spirituality, motivation, etc. Look at the word in bold. My world - revolves around me. Sorry if you think that's arrogant. I know you dislike that, you've made that clear. It may take a full perception of my mind and soul to understand that, perhaps something that can never be understood by mere expression....let alone text on a message board.

Like I said - my world, does indeed revolve around me. It revolves around the people I love and care for. The spiritual balance that only I can control. The progression that is my responsibility. I'm not the guy that plays a supporting role in my own life story, unless the lead character is a higher power

I live in my own world. I follow my own morals. Whether or not those morals fall into the boundaries of the law or not is something for which I care not. I was not consulted upon those laws, therefore if my own action is outside that boundary, it does not bother me. What bothers me is living a just, compassionate, truthful life to the best degree I can. I'm not perfect and everyone has their own individual flaws - but who judges what's a flaw? You percieve me as arrogant and you see that as a flaw. Others see me as a strong-minded, loyal to my beliefs and as someone who would not easily falter. That's a positive to them. It's solely based on the relationship those two people have. Some people look for flaws to make themselves feel better because they are unable to control the feeling of jealousy. (Just to be clear, I'm not talking to you or anyone in specific on that, just generally).

You know, I can't be everything to everybody. I don't think I'm always right, but when I have an opinion that has come from my own personal experiences - that opinion is always justified, until it can be analysed and in some cases proven wrong by a further experience. Isn't that the case with everyone?

ike when Tupac spoke of the Nazi skinhead that hated black people - he showed him compassion. That experience probably changed that dude's stance on black people, probably stopped him from being racist. If all his life he was raised around racist morals and beleifs, and all his personal experiences to that point had been negative, (let's say, he may have ben robbed by a black dude, or witnessed some violence, whatever) - his experiences have caused to him to be the way he is. Is it right? Well, in his mind it would be. To others it wouldn't. He was open minded enough to not act nastily towards a black man when in a situation such as the one with 'Pac....and then he would have realized that what he had been shown, taught and concluded from personal experience was not infallible.

I'm fully, fully aware that I'm not always right. I don't claim my opinions as facts. Perhaps I don't always acknowledge a concession publically. If anything, that's probably the underlying issue and something I need to work on.

In what way does it contradict his next paragraph? He is trying to convey the idea that he can empathise with this woman and see things from her point of view. Like we both said before - she was, perhaps, very conscious about her health and safety, or perhaps as Preach suggested, she might be some nurse who works in the cancer ward or some shit. You never know.. most of the time this stuff can't just be shrugged off as being an unwarranted attack on you, despite it being annoying as fuck and interfering with the enjoyment of your ciggarette.

That's not the point I was making. The point I was referring to was the statement of "I know how the human mind works". That statement goes against the very notion of individuality. What Preach may have read or learned about how "the human mind" works, is not how my mind works. Everyone's mind works differently, that is what being an individual means.

I didn't see it as an unwarranted attack. I understood the statement she made to be wrong, which it was. I was not breaking the law, or being anywhere NEAR to breaking the law.

If she is unable to express how she actually feels, you can't speculate on that, yet you and Preach are. "Maybe she's a nurse on a cancer ward, maybe this, maybe that".

I responded to what she said. If that's not what she meant or what she felt, well I'm not a mind reader. Like I said, you want respect, you show it. Had she respectfully said, "I'm sorry sir, can you move slightly further away, I don't want to risk any chance of second hand smoke inhalation". I would have said "No problem", and moved even further away than I was. But that's not what she said. If you want to be angry, disrepectful, patronising and plain wrong - don't expect the same treatment than if you were polite, respectful and able to express exactly what you're feeling. Like Da_Funk said, don't expect me to act the polite gentleman unless you've approached me in the same way. Approach me like I'm lower than you, a thug, lower-class, criminal, whatever.....and I'll treat you the same way. That principle applies to everything. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. Etc etc etc.


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[Casey]

umm says who? Say's your countries legislation for one. Yeh, you're right, it's not a fascist dictatorship but laws are put in place for a reason. You'll do damn well what you please? Thanks, that gives more credence to my suggestions of your arrogance. If everyone did "damn well what they pleased" then society wouldn't function. You're a cool rockstar, but you aint above the law buddy.

See this makes me think you haven't even understood the situation. The countries legislation DOES NOT, DOES NOT, DOES NOT say that. There is no law or no part of the law passed that says anything about smoking within a certain proximity of an enclosed space. Obviously, since most offices now, bars and pubs, will have the people smoking right out front and providing ashtrays, outside tables etc.

I agree most laws are put in place for a reason. I was not breaking this law. What if there was a similar law, just to use a light-hearted example but with the same principle, about not wearing a green hat in a enclosed space? Would I be in violation of that law if I was standing outside of a restaurant? Hell to the naw. Same principle.

You may percieve me as being arrogant. That's fine. But until you meet me in person, and judge my real life persona as opposed to pixels on a LCD screen....what does it matter? Does it affect your life in any way? Do you feel it's your responsibility to continually make me aware that you think that, even though I've stated on multiple occasions that I know I can come across that way? Is it affecting your own life in any form?

You say if everyone did as they pleased, society wouldn't function. I happen to disagree with the "modern" (and I use the word modern very loosely) definition of society. If it was possible to have a social order based on anarchistic principles, I'd be all for it. Anarchy is not a negative concept, despite most people's views of it as something chaotic. The definition of anarchy as "chaos, disorder and confusion" is not what people are talking about when they use it in a social sense. It's not even the main definition. It's simply an absence of government and state of lawlessness based on the beliefs that everyone is inherently good and able to organise themselves without governmental order. It's not possible to implement this into a society that already exists, it would create chaos.

However, if no one had anarchistic qualities - we would live in a world of sheep.

I consider myself to be inherently good and able to organise and live my life the way I want to regardless of law, or morals, which, having travelled all around the world I am fully aware are different in almost every country. In that sense, I am "above the law" - not that I can break it and go un-punished, but in the sense that I do not need to law as a rulebook of what I can and cannot do.

I take no glee or pride in breaking laws, I do not break laws for the sake of it, unlike a class of intellectually challenged individuals that seem to be cropping up more and more (we call them chavs here in the UK) that will break as many laws as possible for no gain other than wishing to be branded as a criminal.

I do not need a rulebook of how to behave. I don't need a law to tell me what is wrong and what is right. If, say, burglary, or child molestation was suddenly not against the law, does that mean I'm going to go out and rob some houses and rape some kids?

Wow, this is a really long post. I'm in a reflective mood, I think. Probably because I just had a very long, intelligent, deep and spiritual PM conversation with The.Menace. Without a doubt the deepest exchange I've ever had with another person on here. I think you guys should pay more attention to him and his presence here. I suddenly feel that is a very very under-rated contributor.

Anyway blah peace I'm outty like B-Rabbit.