I wouldn't go that far. MJ's hardly reached the level of twisted serial killer. If you look at the guys past it's not surprising to see he acts the way he does. His father was a nutter and MJ never really recovered from his upbringing. Counsel him and you may have a reformed man, jail him and he'll die before he's 50.
Non-Urban Music Michael Jackson Rushed To The Hospital
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Here comes Temi to throw her two cents in 
Look guys, at the end of the day you can all speculate innocent or guilty... but either way, no evidence is within our grasp to prove either! It is up to a jury (not us) to decide exactly how innocent or guilty he is, and when the court trial is over with a verdict reached, then we can all sit here and bitch about it!
If MJ really is a child molester though, no amount of prison time will rehabilitate him. Child molestation is like a mental defect. A paedophile sees having sex with a child like climbing a tree - not wrong, unusual or out-of-the-ordinary. Send him to a psychiatric hospital, not a jail cell.
Look guys, at the end of the day you can all speculate innocent or guilty... but either way, no evidence is within our grasp to prove either! It is up to a jury (not us) to decide exactly how innocent or guilty he is, and when the court trial is over with a verdict reached, then we can all sit here and bitch about it!
If MJ really is a child molester though, no amount of prison time will rehabilitate him. Child molestation is like a mental defect. A paedophile sees having sex with a child like climbing a tree - not wrong, unusual or out-of-the-ordinary. Send him to a psychiatric hospital, not a jail cell.
SeX KiTTeN said:
Here comes Temi to throw her two cents in
Look guys, at the end of the day you can all speculate innocent or guilty... but either way, no evidence is within our grasp to prove either! It is up to a jury (not us) to decide exactly how innocent or guilty he is, and when the court trial is over with a verdict reached, then we can all sit here and bitch about it!
If MJ really is a child molester though, no amount of prison time will rehabilitate him. Child molestation is like a mental defect. A paedophile sees having sex with a child like climbing a tree - not wrong, unusual or out-of-the-ordinary. Send him to a psychiatric hospital, not a jail cell.
Look guys, at the end of the day you can all speculate innocent or guilty... but either way, no evidence is within our grasp to prove either! It is up to a jury (not us) to decide exactly how innocent or guilty he is, and when the court trial is over with a verdict reached, then we can all sit here and bitch about it!
If MJ really is a child molester though, no amount of prison time will rehabilitate him. Child molestation is like a mental defect. A paedophile sees having sex with a child like climbing a tree - not wrong, unusual or out-of-the-ordinary. Send him to a psychiatric hospital, not a jail cell.
Off course, but i think in the uk you would have to build a lot more hospitals to acomadate all the paedos here! why so much love for a paedo?? if mj is guilty he should be locked up like everyone else! your on another subject all together,if the guy has been fiddling with little kids he should be treated no different than anyone else, dont you agree? we aint talking about changing laws or anything.
I don't totally agree with this.
Yes, there is a mental defect involved but I don't think that defect means that the molestor feels it is normal. Many can't grasp that it is wrong but others can.
Those that can grasp the right/wrong concept tend to fall into two categories.
1. These are said to be, at least partially, aroused by the fact they are doing something so wrong.
2. These are said to be aware that what they are doing is wrong, but can't help it - mental illness in effect.
Yes, there is a mental defect involved but I don't think that defect means that the molestor feels it is normal. Many can't grasp that it is wrong but others can.
Those that can grasp the right/wrong concept tend to fall into two categories.
1. These are said to be, at least partially, aroused by the fact they are doing something so wrong.
2. These are said to be aware that what they are doing is wrong, but can't help it - mental illness in effect.
I ain't against MJ getting counselling but he does need to be punished also - if he's found guilty.
Thing is though, the taxpayer would pay for his counselling sessions - which is sure to piss people off.
Obviously the taxpayer would pay for his incarceration but knowing that he is suffering would probably ease the hurt...
Thing is though, the taxpayer would pay for his counselling sessions - which is sure to piss people off.
Obviously the taxpayer would pay for his incarceration but knowing that he is suffering would probably ease the hurt...
Absolutely...couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I'll contradict myself and go one step further 
In both of the cases you mentioned, its' obvious that whether they're aware of it or not, there is some form of mental instability there.
Whether the government chooses the least costly option (for rehabilitation) or the most effective is anybody's guess though.
Temi
In both of the cases you mentioned, its' obvious that whether they're aware of it or not, there is some form of mental instability there. Whether the government chooses the least costly option (for rehabilitation) or the most effective is anybody's guess though.
Temi
You know that because you've been to his house, right? If you knew anything about Michael's house, you'd know that there's no "secret" room. Actually, the room you're describing is a room that's open to everyone that has a threater. Anyone and everyone can go there and there's absolutely nothing secret about it. In fact, its more of an entertainment room than anything else.
If any girl wants to be in his bed, all they have to do is ask. Michael Jackson has never said no to a girl over a boy. What you're saying is based on absolutely no solid knowledge of anything. All you're doing is speculating. The only prerequisite for getting into Michael's bed is asking for permission. If President Bush asked for permission and Michael said okay, he could jump into the bed. The truth is that the bed is open to anyone who asks regardless of race, gender, etc..
What, on Earth, does that prove? Even if that was true, all it would mean is that two fingerprints were found on the magazine. A fingerprint of Michael and the kid. Fingerprints say nothing about time/when the print was placed there. You're speculating at its best. Instead of going on and on about what could have happened, why don't you tell us what actually happened.
That only proves he's weird. That is far from child molestation. The definition of a child molester is anyone who has sexual contact with a child. So, if you're 19, and you have sexual intercourse with a 17 year old, you are a child molester. I am not kidding. That's the law. Period. If your girlfriend is 17, and you're 19, you're a child molestor (if you guys had sexual contact).
And I assume you've known Michael since your child hood? To claim someone is mentally ill, you have to know them. I am not too sure you've even met him. There's not one person, who knows him, that has said the same. There's people twice his age who've had nothing but respect for him. Not only is he friends with little kids, but adults over 80. That says a lot about him. How can a mentally ill man deceive so many adults by faking his mental illness? You've spoken nothing but rubbish.
Don't you know Michael get love even from prisoners? I am not talking about child molesters. I am talking about other prisoners. Michael literally gets love from every kind of person. From kings, queens, and presidents to prisoners, Michael's fans and suporters just don't stop. Steve Harvey was talking about about how much love Michael is getting from prison.
Oh yeah, about your claim, stop acting like you've conducted a scientific research. You know nothing about what people would do towards other alleged child molesters. You only know about your own opinion and a few people you may have asked. I would give every single person a fair trial, and if they're guilty, throw them in prison. The same goes for Michael Jackson. If he was truly guilty, all my respect for him would be gone, and he could die for all I care.
If any girl wants to be in his bed, all they have to do is ask. Michael Jackson has never said no to a girl over a boy. What you're saying is based on absolutely no solid knowledge of anything. All you're doing is speculating. The only prerequisite for getting into Michael's bed is asking for permission. If President Bush asked for permission and Michael said okay, he could jump into the bed. The truth is that the bed is open to anyone who asks regardless of race, gender, etc..
What, on Earth, does that prove? Even if that was true, all it would mean is that two fingerprints were found on the magazine. A fingerprint of Michael and the kid. Fingerprints say nothing about time/when the print was placed there. You're speculating at its best. Instead of going on and on about what could have happened, why don't you tell us what actually happened.
That only proves he's weird. That is far from child molestation. The definition of a child molester is anyone who has sexual contact with a child. So, if you're 19, and you have sexual intercourse with a 17 year old, you are a child molester. I am not kidding. That's the law. Period. If your girlfriend is 17, and you're 19, you're a child molestor (if you guys had sexual contact).
And I assume you've known Michael since your child hood? To claim someone is mentally ill, you have to know them. I am not too sure you've even met him. There's not one person, who knows him, that has said the same. There's people twice his age who've had nothing but respect for him. Not only is he friends with little kids, but adults over 80. That says a lot about him. How can a mentally ill man deceive so many adults by faking his mental illness? You've spoken nothing but rubbish.
Don't you know Michael get love even from prisoners? I am not talking about child molesters. I am talking about other prisoners. Michael literally gets love from every kind of person. From kings, queens, and presidents to prisoners, Michael's fans and suporters just don't stop. Steve Harvey was talking about about how much love Michael is getting from prison.
Oh yeah, about your claim, stop acting like you've conducted a scientific research. You know nothing about what people would do towards other alleged child molesters. You only know about your own opinion and a few people you may have asked. I would give every single person a fair trial, and if they're guilty, throw them in prison. The same goes for Michael Jackson. If he was truly guilty, all my respect for him would be gone, and he could die for all I care.
H.E. Pennypacker said:
You know that because you've been to his house, right? If you knew anything about Michael's house, you'd know that there's no "secret" room. Actually, the room you're describing is a room that's open to everyone that has a threater. Anyone and everyone can go there and there's absolutely nothing secret about it. In fact, its more of an entertainment room than anything else.
WRONG AGAIN, IVE SEEN THE ROOM
If any girl wants to be in his bed, all they have to do is ask. Michael Jackson has never said no to a girl over a boy. What you're saying is based on absolutely no solid knowledge of anything. All you're doing is speculating. The only prerequisite for getting into Michael's bed is asking for permission. If President Bush asked for permission and Michael said okay, he could jump into the bed. The truth is that the bed is open to anyone who asks regardless of race, gender, etc..
wELL IN ALL THE INFORMATION FROM INTERVIEWS WITH MJ OR STAFF IVE NEVER HERD OF ABY LITTLE GIRLS SLEEPING IN HIS BED
What, on Earth, does that prove? Even if that was true, all it would mean is that two fingerprints were found on the magazine. A fingerprint of Michael and the kid. Fingerprints say nothing about time/when the print was placed there. You're speculating at its best. Instead of going on and on about what could have happened, why don't you tell us what actually happened.
NO WHAT IT DOES IS PROVES MJ AN ADULT AN A LITTLE KID HAD BOTH BEEN AT SOME POINT LOOKING AT PORN, MAYBE NOT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT IT PAINTS THE JURY A PICTURE
That only proves he's weird. That is far from child molestation. The definition of a child molester is anyone who has sexual contact with a child. So, if you're 19, and you have sexual intercourse with a 17 year old, you are a child molester. I am not kidding. That's the law. Period. If your girlfriend is 17, and you're 19, you're a child molestor (if you guys had sexual contact).
THAT DEPENDS WHAT COUNTRY YOUR IN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT HERE! IF FOUND GUILTY HE IS A PAEDO
And I assume you've known Michael since your child hood? To claim someone is mentally ill, you have to know them. I am not too sure you've even met him. There's not one person, who knows him, that has said the same. There's people twice his age who've had nothing but respect for him. Not only is he friends with little kids, but adults over 80. That says a lot about him. How can a mentally ill man deceive so many adults by faking his mental illness? You've spoken nothing but rubbish.
TO CLAIM SOMEONE IS MENTALLY ILL YOU HAVE TO HAVE KNOWN THEM SINCE CHILDHOOD
IM SURE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DOCTORS ALL OVER THE WORLD LAUGHING AT YOUR COMMENTS
Don't you know Michael get love even from prisoners? I am not talking about child molesters. I am talking about other prisoners. Michael literally gets love from every kind of person. From kings, queens, and presidents to prisoners, Michael's fans and suporters just don't stop. Steve Harvey was talking about about how much love Michael is getting from prison.
ER..... SO WHATS YOUR POINT? HE IS A VERY GOOD ARTIST
Oh yeah, about your claim, stop acting like you've conducted a scientific research. You know nothing about what people would do towards other alleged child molesters. You only know about your own opinion and a few people you may have asked. I would give every single person a fair trial, and if they're guilty, throw them in prison. The same goes for Michael Jackson. If he was truly guilty, all my respect for him would be gone, and he could die for all I care.
WRONG AGAIN, IVE SEEN THE ROOM
If any girl wants to be in his bed, all they have to do is ask. Michael Jackson has never said no to a girl over a boy. What you're saying is based on absolutely no solid knowledge of anything. All you're doing is speculating. The only prerequisite for getting into Michael's bed is asking for permission. If President Bush asked for permission and Michael said okay, he could jump into the bed. The truth is that the bed is open to anyone who asks regardless of race, gender, etc..
wELL IN ALL THE INFORMATION FROM INTERVIEWS WITH MJ OR STAFF IVE NEVER HERD OF ABY LITTLE GIRLS SLEEPING IN HIS BED
What, on Earth, does that prove? Even if that was true, all it would mean is that two fingerprints were found on the magazine. A fingerprint of Michael and the kid. Fingerprints say nothing about time/when the print was placed there. You're speculating at its best. Instead of going on and on about what could have happened, why don't you tell us what actually happened.
NO WHAT IT DOES IS PROVES MJ AN ADULT AN A LITTLE KID HAD BOTH BEEN AT SOME POINT LOOKING AT PORN, MAYBE NOT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT IT PAINTS THE JURY A PICTURE
That only proves he's weird. That is far from child molestation. The definition of a child molester is anyone who has sexual contact with a child. So, if you're 19, and you have sexual intercourse with a 17 year old, you are a child molester. I am not kidding. That's the law. Period. If your girlfriend is 17, and you're 19, you're a child molestor (if you guys had sexual contact).
THAT DEPENDS WHAT COUNTRY YOUR IN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT HERE! IF FOUND GUILTY HE IS A PAEDO
And I assume you've known Michael since your child hood? To claim someone is mentally ill, you have to know them. I am not too sure you've even met him. There's not one person, who knows him, that has said the same. There's people twice his age who've had nothing but respect for him. Not only is he friends with little kids, but adults over 80. That says a lot about him. How can a mentally ill man deceive so many adults by faking his mental illness? You've spoken nothing but rubbish.
TO CLAIM SOMEONE IS MENTALLY ILL YOU HAVE TO HAVE KNOWN THEM SINCE CHILDHOOD
IM SURE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DOCTORS ALL OVER THE WORLD LAUGHING AT YOUR COMMENTSDon't you know Michael get love even from prisoners? I am not talking about child molesters. I am talking about other prisoners. Michael literally gets love from every kind of person. From kings, queens, and presidents to prisoners, Michael's fans and suporters just don't stop. Steve Harvey was talking about about how much love Michael is getting from prison.
ER..... SO WHATS YOUR POINT? HE IS A VERY GOOD ARTIST
Oh yeah, about your claim, stop acting like you've conducted a scientific research. You know nothing about what people would do towards other alleged child molesters. You only know about your own opinion and a few people you may have asked. I would give every single person a fair trial, and if they're guilty, throw them in prison. The same goes for Michael Jackson. If he was truly guilty, all my respect for him would be gone, and he could die for all I care.
TRY AN GET TO THE POINT How could you have seen the room? Impossible. Get outta here. The media can't there, and you can?
Dude, you know little to nothing about Michael, let alone who sleeps in his bed. I'lll ask you about his age, and you wouldn't know, but you claim to know the people that are in his bed.
There are more people at Michael's house than a popular supermarket. So, let me tell you this: if you find thousands of fingerprints on a magazine at a supermarket, what can you say about a magazine at Michael's house. I am sure there were many fingerprints found on the magazine, not only those of Gavin Arvizo (the 2003/2004/2005 accuser).
I did not say you have to know them since childhood. Read the part again. I am saying that a person is to be well-acquainted with another to know that they're mentally ill. There's nothing that says Michael is mentally ill. There's a lot of things to say that Michael is eccentric, and definitely weird, but not mentally ill. I think that people that brush their teeth after eating breakfast are weird, but they're not mentally ill.
I just added that part because it was relevant.
Dude, you know little to nothing about Michael, let alone who sleeps in his bed. I'lll ask you about his age, and you wouldn't know, but you claim to know the people that are in his bed.
There are more people at Michael's house than a popular supermarket. So, let me tell you this: if you find thousands of fingerprints on a magazine at a supermarket, what can you say about a magazine at Michael's house. I am sure there were many fingerprints found on the magazine, not only those of Gavin Arvizo (the 2003/2004/2005 accuser).
TO CLAIM SOMEONE IS MENTALLY ILL YOU HAVE TO HAVE KNOWN THEM SINCE CHILDHOOD
IM SURE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF DOCTORS ALL OVER THE WORLD LAUGHING AT YOUR COMMENTS
I just added that part because it was relevant.
H.E. Pennypacker said:
How could you have seen the room? Impossible. Get outta here. The media can't there, and you can?
Yes i have, it was on a documentry in the uk 3 weeks ago
Dude, you know little to nothing about Michael, let alone who sleeps in his bed. I'lll ask you about his age, and you wouldn't know, but you claim to know the people that are in his bed.
Listen you have to start watching documentries on this subject, an what has mj age got to do with anything
There are more people at Michael's house than a popular supermarket. So, let me tell you this: if you find thousands of fingerprints on a magazine at a supermarket, what can you say about a magazine at Michael's house. I am sure there were many fingerprints found on the magazine, not only those of Gavin Arvizo (the 2003/2004/2005 accuser).
The magazine was in mj bedroom, the kid slept in mj bedroom, now if you think its ok for a middle age man to sleep in a bedroom with little boys and for there to be pornographic magazines floating around well that aint alright for me
I did not say you have to know them since childhood. Read the part again. I am saying that a person is to be well-acquainted with another to know that they're mentally ill. There's nothing that says Michael is mentally ill. There's a lot of things to say that Michael is eccentric, and definitely weird, but not mentally ill. I think that people that brush their teeth after eating breakfast are weird, but they're not mentally ill.
Ye im sorry about that part, i misread what you said, this part aint aimed at me anyway
I just added that part because it was relevant.
Yes i have, it was on a documentry in the uk 3 weeks ago
Dude, you know little to nothing about Michael, let alone who sleeps in his bed. I'lll ask you about his age, and you wouldn't know, but you claim to know the people that are in his bed.
Listen you have to start watching documentries on this subject, an what has mj age got to do with anything
There are more people at Michael's house than a popular supermarket. So, let me tell you this: if you find thousands of fingerprints on a magazine at a supermarket, what can you say about a magazine at Michael's house. I am sure there were many fingerprints found on the magazine, not only those of Gavin Arvizo (the 2003/2004/2005 accuser).
The magazine was in mj bedroom, the kid slept in mj bedroom, now if you think its ok for a middle age man to sleep in a bedroom with little boys and for there to be pornographic magazines floating around well that aint alright for me
I did not say you have to know them since childhood. Read the part again. I am saying that a person is to be well-acquainted with another to know that they're mentally ill. There's nothing that says Michael is mentally ill. There's a lot of things to say that Michael is eccentric, and definitely weird, but not mentally ill. I think that people that brush their teeth after eating breakfast are weird, but they're not mentally ill.
Ye im sorry about that part, i misread what you said, this part aint aimed at me anyway
I just added that part because it was relevant.
whats the point of brushing them before breakfast 
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