Marine Recruiters go too far to fill quotas

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When Marine recruiters go way beyond the call

By SUSAN PAYNTER
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER COLUMNIST

For mom Marcia Cobb and her teenage son Axel, the white letters USMC on their caller ID soon spelled, "Don't answer the phone!"

UPDATE

See Susan's follow-up column.

Marine recruiters began a relentless barrage of calls to Axel as soon as the mellow, compliant Sedro-Woolley High School grad had cut his 17th birthday cake. And soon it was nearly impossible to get the seekers of a few good men off the line.

With early and late calls ringing in their ears, Marcia tried using call blocking. And that's when she learned her first hard lesson. You can't block calls from the government, her server said. So, after pleas to "Please stop calling" went unanswered, the family's "do not answer" order ensued.

But warnings and liquid crystal lettering can fade. So, two weeks ago when Marcia was cooking dinner Axel goofed and answered the call. And, faster than you can say "semper fi," an odyssey kicked into action that illustrates just how desperate some of the recruiters we've read about really are to fill severely sagging quotas.

Let what we learned serve as a warning to other moms, dads and teens, the Cobbs now say. Even if your kids actually may want to join the military, if they hope to do it on their own terms, after a deep breath and due consideration, repeat these words after them: "No," "Not now" and "Back off!"

"I've been trained to be pretty friendly. I guess you might even say I'm kind of passive," Axel told me last week, just after his mother and older sister had tracked him to a Seattle testing center and sprung him on a ruse.

The next step of Axel's misadventure came when he heard about a cool "chin-ups" contest in Bellingham, where the prize was a free Xbox. The now 18-year-old Skagit Valley Community College student dragged his tail feathers home uncharacteristically late that night. And, in the morning, Marcia learned the Marines had hosted the event and "then had him out all night, drilling him to join."

A single mom with a meager income, Marcia raised her kids on the farm where, until recently, she grew salad greens for restaurants.

Axel's father, a Marine Corps vet who served in Vietnam, died when Axel was 4.

Clearly the recruiters knew all that and more.

"You don't want to be a burden to your mom," they told him. "Be a man." "Make your father proud." Never mind that, because of his own experience in the service, Marcia says enlistment for his son is the last thing Axel's dad would have wanted.

The next weekend, when Marcia went to Seattle for the Folklife Festival and Axel was home alone, two recruiters showed up at the door.

Axel repeated the family mantra, but he was feeling frazzled and worn down by then. The sergeant was friendly but, at the same time, aggressively insistent. This time, when Axel said, "Not interested," the sarge turned surly, snapping, "You're making a big (bleeping) mistake!"

Next thing Axel knew, the same sergeant and another recruiter showed up at the LaConner Brewing Co., the restaurant where Axel works. And before Axel, an older cousin and other co-workers knew or understood what was happening, Axel was whisked away in a car.

"They said we were going somewhere but I didn't know we were going all the way to Seattle," Axel said.

Just a few tests. And so many free opportunities, the recruiters told him.

He could pursue his love of chemistry. He could serve anywhere he chose and leave any time he wanted on an "apathy discharge" if he didn't like it. And he wouldn't have to go to Iraq if he didn't want to.

At about 3:30 in the morning, Alex was awakened in the motel and fed a little something. Twelve hours later, without further sleep or food, he had taken a battery of tests and signed a lot of papers he hadn't gotten a chance to read. "Just formalities," he was told. "Sign here. And here. Nothing to worry about."

By then Marcia had "freaked out."

She went to the Burlington recruiting center where the door was open but no one was home. So she grabbed all the cards and numbers she could find, including the address of the Seattle-area testing center.

Then, with her grown daughter in tow, she high-tailed it south, frantically phoning Axel whose cell phone had been confiscated "so he wouldn't be distracted during tests."

Axel's grandfather was in the hospital dying, she told the people at the desk. He needed to come home right away. She would have said just about anything.

But, even after being told her son would be brought right out, her daughter spied him being taken down a separate hall and into another room. So she dashed down the hall and grabbed him by the arm.

"They were telling me I needed to 'be a man' and stand up to my family," Axel said.

What he needed, it turned out, was a lawyer.

Five minutes and $250 after an attorney called the recruiters, Axel's signed papers and his cell phone were in the mail.

My request to speak with the sergeant who recruited Axel and with the Burlington office about recruitment procedures went unanswered.

And so should your phone, Marcia Cobb advised. Take your own sweet time. Keep your own counsel. And, if you see USMC on caller ID, remember what answering the call could mean
 
They should all die. Draggin boys into a war isn't the right thing. If they want to go, ok, but why would you tell a 17 year old boy "to be a man"....... *angry*
 
There was an article like this in an issue of the tabloid Weekly World News, but it was about female officers getting men drunk at bars and conning them into going into the armed forces.

I didn't believe it at the time but... :/
 
Damn, that's nuts. I remember when they tried to recruit me. They would call all the fucking time. I first met the dude when I was working. They were outside with a little stand type thing handing out flyers. He was cool and everything and he even came to work a few times to check up on me. I thought that was definitely weird. He offered to bring back back and forth to work if I needed to also. I eventually just said I wasn't interested. Good thing they left me alone.
 
A guy asked me how old I was, and then if I wanted to join when I hit 18. I told him that I'm Bosnian and he was like "Oh, nevermind."
 
the army and marine recruiters use to call me every now and then but i never got alot of calls. one time they called and wanted to come talk to me so they asked if they had the correct address. well they didnt because i had recently moved so i told him he did and to come on by. lol. i wish i could have been there to see his face

but i did get one recruiter call me and my new address and i told him he could come by. i was going to sign on the line, even though i wouldnt get a sign on bonus since i dropped out of high school. i didnt care i just wanted to get out of the place i was living. but he never showed up. maybe i dodged a bullet..
 
is it illegal in the u.s. to take drugs ? i dont mean possess or buy/sell drugs, but to actually use them. because over here its legal to smoke weed i.e. but illegal to possess or buy/sell it.
if you dont want to join then just go to their med test thingie and smoke some blunts. they wont take junkies, would they?

btw. im in the air force, but over here recruiting is waaaay different.
 
^ hey you live in germany. can you shed some light on the tv show over there that aired an episode were the u.s. govt and pres bush were behind the 9/11 attacks?i think its a fictional drama show. state run.
 
They're nuts. That's all I can say. For those that don't know, recruiters are at EVERY SINGLE High School at least once a year to sign kids up. Its ridiculous. They usually go to the cafeteria and try to be more persuasive than a cunning car sales man.

They need to back off, tell people of their website, and that's it. Don't harass people into joining. You have more recruiters than Jehova's Witnesses at your door.

Get the ^$%&$& off my doorway.
 
It tells me right there that Axel is a little bitch.

I remember taking an aptitude test at high school for the army. I did it because I got out early from school and I was like fuck yeah. So I took it and got the highest score out of everyone. That is where the problem ensude. They keep on calling me and telling me when I was going to sign up and enlist you know all the good stuff. But the good thing is that I got accepted by a university in which I told them. They were like, "That aint going to help you in real life," "You need to learn to be a man in the real world." I told him, "I would be the only person in my whole entire family to go to college while I had other friends die and lose their limbs because of you fuckers." The army recruiters never called again.
 
haunted said:
All you gotta tell them is you have a felony.
Can't they just check your record though? Man these guys must be getting desperate to pull this kind of shit. I don't care what Bush says, I just know they're gonna try to bring back the draft. Thank God I live in canada and am well over the age of 18 :D :thumb:
 
Devious187 said:
Can't they just check your record though? Man these guys must be getting desperate to pull this kind of shit. I don't care what Bush says, I just know they're gonna try to bring back the draft. Thank God I live in canada and am well over the age of 18 :D :thumb:
I dont think they can legally do that...But they might do it anyway im not sure...
 

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