Film & TV Lets Be Real, Scottie Pippen Is Better Than Kobe

#1
Kobe trying to be like Mike of 1991 and isn't even as good as Scottie of 1994.

Pippen's first season without MJ, the Bulls went 55-27. They were 1 game/a bad call away from the Eastern Conference Finals.
Kobe's Lakers will probably finish something like 38-44 and no playoffs.
Let's compare.

KOBE BRYANT: (2004-05)

Kobe scores 28 ppg and shoots 43%. He gets about 1 steal and 1 blocked shot to go with 6 boards and assists per game. The Lakers are now 32-36 and will probably miss the playoffs. Bryant has missed 14 games and the Lakers are 6-8 without him in the lineup. They are 26-28 with him playing. They win 43% of the time without him and 48% of the time with him. There are 17 teams that win more than 48% of their games this season. The Lakers 2nd, 3rd and 4th best players are Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Chucky Atkins.

SCOTTIE PIPPEN: (1994-95)

Scottie scored 22 ppg and shot 49%. He got about 3 steals and 1 blocked shot to go with 9 boards and slightly under 6 assists per game. The Bulls finished 55-27 and came within 1 game of the Conference Finals. Pippen missed 10 games that season and the Bulls were 1-9 without him in the lineup. They were 54-18 with him playing. They won 10% of the time without him and 75% of the time with him. There was only 1 team that won 75% of their games that season. The Bulls 2nd, 3rd and 4th best players were Toni Kukoc, Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong.

Playing a game of 3-on-3, which team would win?

team A..... Lamar Odom, Caron Butler & Chucky Atkins

team B..... Toni Kukoc, Horace Grant & B.J. Armstrong

The Difference:

Kobe Bryant is the most OVERRATED player in the NBA.

Scottie Pippen was the most UNDERRATED player in the NBA.

Conclusion:

Many die-hard Lakers fans unrealistically think Kobe Bryant is one of the best players in the NBA, while Scottie Pippen placed in nearly the exact same situation 11 seasons ago, went on the court and proved he actually was one of THE BEST players in the NBA.
 
#4
Interesting stats, but you have to look at the teams. Kobe isn't the only player on the Lakers, you know. When they won back to back to back, they had Shaq, Kobe, Rick Fox, and the likes of players like that. The players they have this year are nowhere near as good. Now look at the 94-95 Bulls. Along with Pippen, they had Armstrong, Grant, Kukoc, all top notch position players. Now, I'm not knocking Scottie, He's always been one of my favorite players, but he didn't do it all by himself. If Kobe had the same team the Lakers had in 2002-03 minus Shaq, they'd be doing a hell of a lot better this season.
 

Ristol

New York's Ambassador
#5
Pippen was great. I'm not sure if he could score like Kobe, or be the dominant slasher on his team like Kobe has been for the past five years or so. And they're great defenders, both of them, so it's pretty tough to tell. Plus, people take for granted that Kobe's best years are behind him now that Shaq's gone. The Lakers have lots of money, and they'll probably be very good again within the next three years.
 

AmerikazMost

Well-Known Member
#6
whoa, we're taking this kobe hating a little far. and this is coming from the guy who made the smiling when kobe suffers thread.

now i made thread before stating why kobe is nowhere near michael, but he is def. near scottie.

scottie falls under the category of kevin mchale, robert parrish, and all them - really good players, but great players with jordan or bird or whoever. just look at how fast scottie fell off when michael retired the final time. i'm not hatin on scottie, but he doesn't belong on the pedastal you're putting him on. he's a level 2 player - a hall of famer, but not a legend.

as for kobe, he's not the same type of player as scottie was, so it's hard to decide. personally, i'd take scottie over him if i was building a team, but i wouldn't argue with anyone who chose differently. two different kinds of players.
 
#7
What the fuck is with all the Kobe hating? The guy is an unbelievable basketball player. Still one of the best in the game... get off his ass for 5 fucking minutes please!!
 

Jeremy

Well-Known Member
#8
Stop hating ppl. Kobe is one of the best in the NBA. Shaq even gives him credit for that and they hate each other.
 
#9
FUCK Kobe, it's all about Shaq Diesel N' Flash, Kobe is over rated.
Nowhere near Michael or Pippen, I would take BJ Armstrong over Kobe anyday and yes I am a Kobe hater, I don't give a fuck and if you want to say something then say it, don't hate cuz I'm hating.
I genuinely dislike Kobe Bryant I was and will never be a fan of this punk bitch, fuck KOBE!!!
 
#10
Es-R Mafia said:
FUCK Kobe, it's all about Shaq Diesel N' Flash, Kobe is over rated.
Nowhere near Michael or Pippen, I would take BJ Armstrong over Kobe anyday and yes I am a Kobe hater, I don't give a fuck and if you want to say something then say it, don't hate cuz I'm hating.
I genuinely dislike Kobe Bryant I was and will never be a fan of this punk bitch, fuck KOBE!!!
Instead of using your emotion, use your head. Thanks....
 
#11
It is my head, it may look like i'm at my computer like hopping mad over a thread, but i don't take this shit seriously. I still don't give a fucc, i was waiting for someone to come back wit a samrt ass remark. So fucc you have a nice day
 
#12
Es-R Mafia said:
It is my head, it may look like i'm at my computer like hopping mad over a thread, but i don't take this shit seriously. I still don't give a fucc, i was waiting for someone to come back wit a samrt ass remark. So fucc you have a nice day
I love you too.



But still you would take BJ Armstrong rather than Kobe Bryant knowing the actual fact that Kobe is statistically better than BJ?
 
#13
I just realized that Kobe is hated by a lot of people that live in Chicago. Why is that? You got the creator of this thread who is an open Kobe hater. Jay Mariotti from the Chicago Sun Times is always blasting Kobe on Around The Horn. Even, rappers Common Sense, Kanye West and Twista have lines aimed at Kobe.

Is it that they feel threatend with all the Kobe/MJ comparisons?
 

hizzle?

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#14
Devious187 said:
Interesting stats, but you have to look at the teams. Kobe isn't the only player on the Lakers, you know. When they won back to back to back, they had Shaq, Kobe, Rick Fox, and the likes of players like that. The players they have this year are nowhere near as good. Now look at the 94-95 Bulls. Along with Pippen, they had Armstrong, Grant, Kukoc, all top notch position players. Now, I'm not knocking Scottie, He's always been one of my favorite players, but he didn't do it all by himself. If Kobe had the same team the Lakers had in 2002-03 minus Shaq, they'd be doing a hell of a lot better this season.
*cough* Robert Horry *cough*
 
#15
Devious187 said:
Interesting stats, but you have to look at the teams. Kobe isn't the only player on the Lakers, you know. When they won back to back to back, they had Shaq, Kobe, Rick Fox, and the likes of players like that. The players they have this year are nowhere near as good. Now look at the 94-95 Bulls. Along with Pippen, they had Armstrong, Grant, Kukoc, all top notch position players. Now, I'm not knocking Scottie, He's always been one of my favorite players, but he didn't do it all by himself. If Kobe had the same team the Lakers had in 2002-03 minus Shaq, they'd be doing a hell of a lot better this season.
plus the only starter they have from last year is kobe, they're all learning how to play with each other, they've been trying to learn the triangle in the middle of the season, and they're coach quit on them in the middle of the season
 
#16
2pacnbiggie

your such a fuckin hater dogg

pippen is nowhere near kobe, on alot of shit ill agree with, jay z biting, stupidity of certain people

but you saying pippen is better then kobe takes your obsessive kobe hating to awhole nother level

kobe is on a garbage team and is still performing at top quality just look at his stats vs philly

come on man
 
#17
2pacnbiggie said:
Kobe trying to be like Mike of 1991 and isn't even as good as Scottie of 1994.

Pippen's first season without MJ, the Bulls went 55-27. They were 1 game/a bad call away from the Eastern Conference Finals.
Kobe's Lakers will probably finish something like 38-44 and no playoffs.
Let's compare.

KOBE BRYANT: (2004-05)

Kobe scores 28 ppg and shoots 43%. He gets about 1 steal and 1 blocked shot to go with 6 boards and assists per game. The Lakers are now 32-36 and will probably miss the playoffs. Bryant has missed 14 games and the Lakers are 6-8 without him in the lineup. They are 26-28 with him playing. They win 43% of the time without him and 48% of the time with him. There are 17 teams that win more than 48% of their games this season. The Lakers 2nd, 3rd and 4th best players are Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Chucky Atkins.

SCOTTIE PIPPEN: (1994-95)

Scottie scored 22 ppg and shot 49%. He got about 3 steals and 1 blocked shot to go with 9 boards and slightly under 6 assists per game. The Bulls finished 55-27 and came within 1 game of the Conference Finals. Pippen missed 10 games that season and the Bulls were 1-9 without him in the lineup. They were 54-18 with him playing. They won 10% of the time without him and 75% of the time with him. There was only 1 team that won 75% of their games that season. The Bulls 2nd, 3rd and 4th best players were Toni Kukoc, Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong.

Playing a game of 3-on-3, which team would win?

team A..... Lamar Odom, Caron Butler & Chucky Atkins

team B..... Toni Kukoc, Horace Grant & B.J. Armstrong

The Difference:

Kobe Bryant is the most OVERRATED player in the NBA.

Scottie Pippen was the most UNDERRATED player in the NBA.

Conclusion:

Many die-hard Lakers fans unrealistically think Kobe Bryant is one of the best players in the NBA, while Scottie Pippen placed in nearly the exact same situation 11 seasons ago, went on the court and proved he actually was one of THE BEST players in the NBA.

damn man this is so great hahahahaaha you really know your NBA/Bulls dont ya
 
#18
AnarchistFunk said:
2pacnbiggie

your such a fuckin hater dogg

pippen is nowhere near kobe, on alot of shit ill agree with, jay z biting, stupidity of certain people

but you saying pippen is better then kobe takes your obsessive kobe hating to awhole nother level

kobe is on a garbage team and is still performing at top quality just look at his stats vs philly

come on man

dont mean shit without wins, if he trully the new jordan he can make them garbage players better, I mean shit who other then pipen from the bulls sqaud were big time/hall of famers (other then maybe rodman)?


Kobe learning what TMAC, VINSANITY,KG, and LBJ (soon) will learn you cant do it without help (decent help as in another star)


good for Kobe, the laekrs, and Dr. Buss. Good for their asses for breaking up a dynasty/solid team because they couldnt get there egos checked
 
#19
You just said Pippen is better then Kobe. That proves your ignorance already for basketball and your hate for Kobe. Pippen was a great defensive player and in my opinion during his run with MJ and Chicago was like top 5 best players in the league. No doubt about that. But check yourself fool, Pippen aint betta then Kobe. Your comparing stats, how dumb can u get. Stats also depends on team members. Everyone had to guard MJ, what u think Pippen was doing. Everyone is triple teaming Kobe and he dont have a Pippen on his team. Kobe can get to the rim ANYTIME he wants. He's got one of the nicest shots in the NBA. He's got the fade away, he's got the upps and he plays D. Theres no one thas gon stop Kobe in the NBA. Pippen knows how to play the game, but SKILL wise, he is not better then Kobe. Thas why he was hating on Kobe when LA whooped Portland to advance to championship. Bitches always cry. Thas a trip homie. Now I dont like him for what he did with Shaq and the LA team. But I got mad RESPECT for his game cuz hands down he got game.
 
#20
Forget all that stat shit. I am a big Kobe fan but you really measure greatness in rings. Pippen has more so he wins the argument.
 

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