Film & TV LAVERNOUS COLES TRADED TO THE JETS FOR SANTANA MOSS (done deal)

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#1
Associated Press

ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Redskins finally traded disgruntled receiver Laveranues Coles back to the New York Jets on Saturday and got the speedy Santana Moss in return.

Moss' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said in a phone interview the deal was contingent on both players passing physicals. Moss had his physical scheduled for Monday at Redskins Park. A source within the league, speaking to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity, also said Coles got the new deal he wanted, which held up the trade for the last week.

Terms of the deal weren't available. A message left for Coles' agent, Roosevelt Barnes, was not immediately returned.

Coles met with coach Joe Gibbs twice after the season to state his desire to leave the Redskins, following an unsatisfying year in the team's conservative offense.

He had 90 catches for 950 yards for a career-low 10.6 yards a catch and only one touchdown in the Redskins' 6-10 season. The year before, under pass-oriented coach Steve Spurrier, Coles had 82 receptions for 1,204 yards and six touchdowns.

Coles emerged as a favorite of Chad Pennington in 2002, but left the Jets as a restricted free agent after the season, when the team declined to match the Redskins' seven-year, $35 million offer -- including a $13 million bonus. He was critical of the Jets and coach Herman Edwards after he left, though it appears the organization is willing to look past that.

As for Moss, the game-breaking receiver had a breakout year in 2003, with 1,105 yards and 10 touchdowns. But his productivity slipped in 2004, when he had 45 catches for 838 yards and five touchdowns while battling through a sore hamstring. He also was critical of his role in the Jets' conservative offense, wondering why he didn't get the ball more.

Moss is entering the final year of his contract, and Rosenhaus expects to have the receiver signed to a new deal shortly after the trade is completed.

"He's very pleased," Rosenhaus said. "It's not because he wanted to leave New York, but Washington offers him some great opportunities. He's going to be a focal point of their offense. I anticipate that we'll be able to work out a very lucrative extension for him."

Moss will pair up with another big-play receiver in David Patten, who signed a five-year, $13 million contract with a $3.5 million signing bonus earlier this week as a free agent from New England.

One area of concern for the Jets could be a chronic toe injury that has plagued Coles the last two seasons. The Redskins wanted him to have surgery, but Coles was reluctant to undergo any procedure. If he is healthy, Coles provides the Jets with a solid receiver under new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger to go with Justin McCareins.


source: espn
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#2
as the resident Jets fan, I'll point out the goods and bads:

Positives:

1) Get the absolute pussy that is Moss off the team
2) Get a tough guy back that is twice the receiver that Moss is on his best day
3) It gets Terry Bradway's head out of his ass so he can go and find a DT and a LT that can play
4) The Patriots were reported to have offered Coles big $$$ to replace Patten/Brown

Negatives:

1) Coles' Fredo-like attitude is back (well, its like what during negotiations)
2) Paying Coles extra dough sucks, but it isn't unfair. If it's true he gave the Skins $5 mil back, then it only makes sense that the Jets would re-pay at least part of it on the other side
3) It may make Terry complacent, as it will give the Jets the back pages tomorrow.

also Santana Moss will be a free agent next year, and the Jets wouldn't wanna risk losing him and if they slapped the franchise tag on him it would just cost too much

Time to wave bye bye to Sideline Santana and re-welcome Lavernous Cole$
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#5
Hennessy said:
it seems like a totally pointless trade to me.
edited:

the jets weren't too optomistic about their chances of resigning Moss next year, and the Redskins weren't too optomistic about Coles's attitude

as for the talent, Moss is probably faster but is too scared to go into the middle of the field
 
#6
Bank Robber said:
as the resident Jets fans, I'll point out the goods and bads:

Positives:

1) Get the absolute pussy that is Moss off the team
2) Get a tough guy back that is twice the receiver that Moss is on his best day
3) It gets Terry Bradway's head out of his ass so he can go and find a DT and a LT that can play
4) The Patriots were reported to have offered Coles big $$$ to replace Patten/Brown

Negatives:

1) Coles' Fredo-like attitude is back (well, its like what during negotiations)
2) Paying Coles extra dough sucks, but it isn't unfair. If it's true he gave the Skins $5 mil back, then it only makes sense that the Jets would re-pay at least part of it on the other side
3) It may make Terry complacent, as it will give the Jets the back pages tomorrow.

also Santana Moss will be a free agent next year, and the Jets wouldn't wanna risk losing him and if they slapped the franchise tag on him it would just cost too much

Time to wave bye bye to Sideline Santana and re-welcome Lavernous Cole$

i agree with what is in bold

moss is not a pussy...u just lost you're best punt returner and breakaway threat...coles is more of a pussy for having almost the same number of yards than moss on half as many catches last year.

Santana Moss
2004 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
45 838 5 18.6 69 229


Laveranues Coles
Wide Receiver
2004 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
90 950 1 10.6 45 341



coles is no more than another possesion receiver, just like mccareins


sorry, but coming from a um student and fsu hater (and dol-fan and huge jets hater), i have to back my dawg moss
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#8
cardella said:
i agree with what is in bold

moss is not a pussy...u just lost you're best punt returner and breakaway threat...coles is more of a pussy for having almost the same number of yards than moss on half as many catches last year.

Santana Moss
2004 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
45 838 5 18.6 69 229


Laveranues Coles
Wide Receiver
2004 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
90 950 1 10.6 45 341



coles is no more than another possesion receiver, just like mccareins


sorry, but coming from a um student and fsu hater (and dol-fan and huge jets hater), i have to back my dawg moss

dude, just watch Coles in 2002 on the Jets and you'll see why this is a good deal for the Jets

it took me awhile to realise this isnt a bad trade, at first I was pissed off as fuck although Sideline Santana misses alot of games.
 
#9
This is gonna work so good for the Skins we now have 2 guys who can go down the feild fast, and catch the ball. the Wide Out corp is looking good.

David Patten
Santana Moss
Rod Gardner
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#10
I found out more on why this trade happened:

______
COLES COMES HOME

BY STEVE SERBY

March 6, 2005 -- Laveranues Coles could hear the sweet sound of Jets fans ringing in his ears again yesterday.
"J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS!" an excited Coles told The Post exclusively on the day he came back home where he belongs.

Chad Pennington missed his go-to receiver the past two seasons and his go-to receiver missed Pennington. Yesterday, the dream of a sweet reunion became a reality when the Jets finally traded Santana Moss to the Redskins for the perfect bookend — tough, smart and clutch — to Justin McCareins.

The deal is contingent on physicals for both players.

"Glad to be back home and be with Chad Pennington and the guys, and I'm back in 87!" Coles said, giggling.

Pennington headed the list of Jets veterans who lobbied behind the scenes for Coles' return.

"We talk pretty much every day," Coles said. "The main thing for us now is to get to work. I got another offense to learn. This is my fifth offense in six years."


Coles called Pennington the day before the quarterback underwent surgery to repair a torn right rotator cuff last month.

"Chad said if there's a chance we can get you back, he's gonna do everything he could," Coles said. "Him, Curtis [Martin] and John Abraham, they all stepped to the plate to bring me back."

Coles heard immediately yesterday from Martin.

"Curtis called me and told me he's glad it's done," Coles said.


Coles, who was signed to a seven-year $35 million offer sheet with a $13 million signing bonus two years ago, said he has agreed to a below-market value $5 million signing bonus to make the deal happen.

Coles reportedly will receive $8 million in guarantees and will not rebate any of the $13 million signing bonus he received from the Skins.

"I ended up taking a lot less than what I wanted," Coles said. "Shows how badly I wanted to come back."

Coles, 27 years old, said he is certain the best is yet to come as he enters the prime of his career. Much more durable than Moss, Coles has played every game the past four years.

"The game has slowed down so much to me," Coles said.

Coles, who caught 82 passes for 1,264 yards and five TDs in 2002 with the Jets, dismissed reports of a toe injury.

"My toe is fine; there's gonna be no problem," Coles said. "What happens is, when a team gets upset with you, they start talking about all the bad things about it. They try to come up with excuses why they want you to leave. I haven't had any problems with it since I got a cortisone shot right before the Philly game last year. I'm gonna go see if I have to get another one. They don't know how long it lasts."

Moss, whose punt return average slipped from 16.5 in 2002 to 8.3 last season, caught 45 passes for 838 yards and five TDs last season. Coles, disenchanted with the lack of long passes in Joe Gibbs' offense, can't wait to work with new Jets offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger, who will be getting the green light from Herm Edwards to stretch the field.

"Everybody was chomping at the bit to get him," Coles said of Heimerdinger. "New York was lucky enough to land him. That's another reason why I think it's a good fit for me."

In two seasons with the Redskins, Coles grabbed 172 passes for 2,154 yards and seven TDs. But there was instability on the sidelines and under center.

"Every year it's a madhouse," Coles said.

The money was greener when Coles left the Jets, but the grass sure wasn't.

"You never understand how good you have it in one place until you go someplace else and you experience it with another organization," Coles said.

Coles returns with a better understanding of how the business side of the game works and has no bone to pick now with Edwards, whom he criticized when he left for Washington.

"It took me a little while to learn that," Coles said. "When a coach tells you he's gonna bring you back, you think he's the one pulling the trigger. If it was left up to [Edwards], he probably would have gave me everything they had in the bank. Somebody just came in and basically stole me."

Yesterday, the Jets stole Coles back.

J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS! — oh, how Coles missed that sound.

"Yes I did," Coles said.
 

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