Lancer's I-VIII???

[tennis_dog]

i dunno the diff. between any of em...im not even sure which one we're on now...i googled and yahooed my ass off for each individual type of EVO, but i couldnt find em....so does anyone have any pictures of 1-9?? is there even an EVO 1?m i was just curious, cuz i now there's a less powerful lancer in the US....i dont even think its an evo....

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I assume you're asking about the Lancer EVOLUTION. (The Evo is a type of Lancer, but 100x better, in case you didn't know that they were similar cars.) This information was sourced from www.autozine.org and my memory (mostly applies to Evo VIII and IX):

Evo (1992): Lancer with 250 hp and 228 lb.-ft, AWD, aluminum hood
Evo II (late 1993): 260 hp, slight height adjustment
Evo III (early 1995): 270 hp, larger intercooler, new aerodynamic kit (included big front bumper and bi-plane rear wing)
Evo IV (mid 1996): redesigned (based on new Lancer), 280 hp (already at Japan's domestic regulation) and 261 lb.-ft, helical mechanical rear LSD used, but AYC (Active Yaw Control, basically a computer-controlled rear LSD) was an option
Evo V (early 1998): 280 hp and 275 lb.-ft, wider front and rear tracks (distance between left and right wheels), bigger wheels and tires, Brembo brakes (same manufacturer who makes brakes for Ferraris and other race cars), inverted dampers, new turbo, updated AYC
Evo VI (early 1999): roughly same hp and torque but available earlier, improved aerodynamics
Evo VII (late 2000): redesigned, 280 hp (actually over 300 but advertised at 280 due to regulations), stiffer structure, aluminum front fenders, magnesium cam cover, longer, wider, ACD (Active Center Differential, computer-controlled LSD that is one of the most advanced, especially at the time)
Evo VIII (late 2002): slightly redesigned body (mostly the front end, since it was altered to incorporate a front crash beam that is needed for U.S. regulations since they finally decided to bring the car to the U.S.), 280 hp (actually 310 hp) and 289 lb.-ft, 6-speed gearbox, carbon fiber rear wing, Super AYC
U.S. Evo VIII (early 2003): 271 hp and 273 lb.-ft (detuning was necessary in order to comply with U.S. emissions regulations), viscous center LSD instead of ACD, mechanical rear LSD instead of Super AYC (used in order to lower price of car and to increase the size of the fuel tank since the equipment for Super AYC is quite large)
U.S. Evo VIII RS (2004): same as U.S. Evo VIII, but with a helical front LSD, aluminum roof, and without A/C, power accessories, radio, etc.
U.S. Evo VIII (2005): ACD replaces viscous center LSD in all models, updated engine in all models with 276 hp and 286 lb.-ft, 5500 rpm launch limit (activated only when car isn't moving), MR version available with 6-speed, aluminum roof (like the RS), Bilstein shocks (smoother ride but identical performance), lightweight BBS wheels, vortex generator
U.S. Evo IX (late 2005): slightly redesigned front end, MIVEC added (Mitsubishi's version of variable valve timing), 286 hp (actually over 300 hp) and 289 lb.-ft, smoked headlights and taillights, updated wheels

 

[Duke]

Evo 1 through 9 looks the same basically.

Early gen Evo (Evo 1)

Mid-gen, a 5

late gen 9.

The differences are subtle. Mitsu took the Lancer, a simple car, converted it into a 4wd rally-cannon, and with each generation of Evo, it just got a little bit better. It's called "Evolution" for a reason.

Send an Evo 1 and an Evo 9 around a slalom course, and there won't be much in it. On the track, or rather, the rally course, the 9 will trounce the 1.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Evo 1 through 9 looks the same basically.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. They look the same in the sense that they all had four doors and a rally wing, but each complete redesign (I-III, IV-VI, VII-IX) was quite different from other Evo styles. It's still the same car, which would be why they look similar (like how Porsche 911s always look alike from redesign to redesign), but I wouldn't say they're the same.

Send an Evo 1 and an Evo 9 around a slalom course, and there won't be much in it. On the track, or rather, the rally course, the 9 will trounce the 1.

Let's not forget about straightline acceleration either. There is a good 60-70 hp difference between the Evo I and Evo IX.

 

[Duke]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. They look the same in the sense that they all had four doors and a rally wing, but each complete redesign (I-III, IV-VI, VII-IX) was quite different from other Evo styles. It's still the same car, which would be why they look similar (like how Porsche 911s always look alike from redesign to redesign), but I wouldn't say they're the same.

Let's not forget about straightline acceleration either. There is a good 60-70 hp difference between the Evo I and Evo IX.

Porsches always looked the same as well .

Evo-redesigns, yes, but they never got rid of the boxy econocar form. I mean, apart from the sporty trim on the Evos, it's not what you'd call a pretty car. I mean, one glance at those pics and it's not hard to see they share the same DNA.

And yeah, later gens are faster on the straights of course, but this is to be expected, and the Evo's aren't really about their engine anyway. It's mettle is proved in the corners, and it's there the Mitsu boys spend years fiddling and improving, making a handful of seemingly insignificant changes and in the end making the old car better yet again. Never has a car been so aptly named.

 

[tennis_dog]

so duke...basically, the pics you poster in your first post are pics of one from each generation, and advancements within the generation are just very subtle, its more performance than cosmetic changes?


and yeah, alotta porsches do look the same...the 911..carrera...whatver...too much to sift through...

and now, for some reason, i kinda like the EVOs...not that i hated them before, but i really had something against small japanese cars....the EVO isnt small, but it isnt big either...its medium-small, but thats cuz its a racer...and im kinda tall and wide....so getting into cars like that are a bitch....but i saw it alongside that lambo....man....


but the imprezas are equally interesting as well....i dunno what people see wrong with the new ones...i think they look fine....but whatever...fine cars, nonetheless..

 

[Duke]

Yeah, there's a lot more engineering upgrades than cosmetic upgrades. Models 1 to 3 share the same look, as do 4-6 and 7-9, with only very minor differences setting apart the editions in their groups.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

so duke...basically, the pics you poster in your first post are pics of one from each generation, and advancements within the generation are just very subtle, its more performance than cosmetic changes?

Even though this was directed toward Duke, I'll say that you're basically right about the advancements being subtle from one generation to the other, for the most part. The only big changes (complete redesigned, introduction of new performance technology, etc.) came with the Evo IV and VII. Between the Evo I and III, changes were minor, same with the Evo IV to VI, same with the Evo VII to IX.

and now, for some reason, i kinda like the EVOs...not that i hated them before, but i really had something against small japanese cars....the EVO isnt small, but it isnt big either...its medium-small, but thats cuz its a racer...and im kinda tall and wide....so getting into cars like that are a bitch....but i saw it alongside that lambo....man....

You'd be surprised at how roomy the Evo is when you sit in it for the first time. It's no Hummer, but there's plenty of room for tall people, as long as there aren't five of them riding. There's plenty of headroom, even for people above 6', since I live with two guys who are about 6'1" and 6'2", and both of them still have a good distance between their heads and the roof. But if you're wide, the seats might be a little tight since they have side bolsters designed to keep you in place during sharp cornering.

but the imprezas are equally interesting as well....i dunno what people see wrong with the new ones...i think they look fine....but whatever...fine cars, nonetheless..

At this point in the game, the WRX STI has fallen behind the Evo from a performance perspective. That doesn't mean that they're bad cars though. The good thing about Subaru is that they have a "midlevel" WRX that is good if you want some good performance but don't have the funds for something along the lines of an STI or Evo. But if you've got the money for an STI, then it would be wise to get an Evo, which is objectively the faster accelerating, faster cornering car that is subjectively better looking.

 

[PELLA]

They should make those Evo's wider.

 

[Rukas]

Heres a question, the 1 to 4's were illegal off the factory here due to the engine being too close to the driver, although this didnt stop them selling them. Was this just an issue here or everywhere?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Heres a question, the 1 to 4's were illegal off the factory here due to the engine being too close to the driver, although this didnt stop them selling them. Was this just an issue here or everywhere?

I guess it was just a problem there. The only issue that we had with the earlier Evos in the U.S. was that they hadn't met crash standards due to their lack of a decent front bumper beam. This was resolved with the Evo VIII, which was created with meeting U.S. standards in mind.

 

[tennis_dog]

ah, when i said big, i didnt really mean i was a wide load...it was more the height part that was bothering me....buts its all good...