Kevin Trudeau

[Illuminattile]

Boy does this guy piss me off. I saw his "infomercial" for "Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About" while on holiday and I just couldn't believe this snake was allowed to go on television and make such bogus claims about cures for Cancer and Diabetes. I immediately recognised him as a con artist, but upon doing a little research I'm even more surprised he's allowed on TV to peddle his products and systems.

For those not familiar, his latest book claims that diseases and conditions like cancer, diabetes and ADHD have wholly natural cures that are being supressed by the FDA, the FTC and drug companies. It doesn't offer any real evidence, and constantly points you to his website so you can buy various products and systems at inflated prices. Products like 'coral calcium' (limestone, essentially) which he and others have fraudulently claimed can cure disease by adjusting the body's pH level. He claims that the food industry add ingredients to food to make people obese and addicted and that sunblock causes cancer.

If the claims themselves weren't ridiculous enough, just take a look at the mouthpiece. Not only is Trudeau not a doctor (though he pled guilty to charges of larceny after posing as a doctor) but he's a convicted criminal. Found guilty of larceny, credit card fraud, making false and misleading claims about his products, contempt of court for violating an agreement with the FTC among other things. He's been banned from appearing on infomercials to promote his products, since he's repeatedly given false, misleading and unsubstantiated claims.

So yeah, the guy's an asshole conman, but it's not just the fact that he's taking peoples money with these scams. The thing that really angers me about these kind of frauds is who they are targeted. They prey on those who are suffering from these serious diseases - directly or indirectly - by promising cures for incurable diseases. They're giving false hope to those going through desperate times, and they're taking away their money as they do. That's not just wrong, that's evil.

 

[Sebastian]

never heard of him before but it seems like hes a damn asshole and a liar.

 

[Synful*Luv]

I've seen him be4 on Saturday mornings, I don't know what he's talking about more than half of the time

 

[LesanePCrooks96]

I've seen that Natural Cures thing a bunch of times on TV. not sure quite what to believe but sounds like he's in it for the money and nothing else? BigMack, surprised you haven't written in this thread yet, i'd be interested in hearing what you think about this character??

 

[Ghetto_Ghost]

hmmm, cant be mad at him
we're live in a world where an alarming amount of poeple buy into large amounts of bullshit.
pretty good scam

 

[bigmack]

Pffff the fuckin FTC has been on this guy's nuts from the very beginning. The reason he was charged was because the FTC decided his claims her false.There was absolutely no basis to their conclusions.All they did was say hey this is false,we're charging you.And the sad thing is that they can do that.

If you remember when I talked about the government trying to kill word about cures for diseases,this is a prime example of it. They don't want a person like Kevin Trudeau killing the drug industry. Notice how every single case was settled for money? Why isnt he in jail if he is such a fraud? Why would the FTC want to settle with him? Because they can't make a case to throw him in jail.And since Kevin has alot of money,he agreed to the settlements without going through a court system which is a big hassle and could end up costing him more money than settling.

And about his book Natural cures,well, the concepts which he gives are absolutely true,backed by studies. What's the problem with him plugging in his own supplements or whatever??? People talk about how this and that is false,but there is never any real evidence. Show me an unbiased study and i'll shut my mouth.Any study that proves Kevin's theories wrong are funded by the government.The government wants people to control their diseases by taking drugs for the rest of their lives and that is a fact.

Kevin also states a true fact on his infomercials which must not be taken lightly. Why would drug companies advertise drugs to people at home on their televisions. Isnt your doctor supposed to tell you that you need this drug and prescribe it to you? Have we gotten to the point where we have to go tell our doctors we want this drug.Then what the hell is a doctor for if we are telling him what we need.All we need from him is a signature.

I know people who run private clinics that cure all kinds of diseases wheather its cancer,diabetes,multiple sclerosis and I've seen it happen. Why would the government ban advertising of these clinics? Why is it illegal to have these clinics???

I would also like to ask a question.Why would the government set a law that states, a cure can only be labelled a cure if its a drug.It's true,if there is a cure,it has to be a drug.

look at this

The Commission files a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendant has actually violated the law


Again,there was absolutely no proof that Kevin's theories are false.

Don't be brainwashed by the government.We need more people like Kevin Trudeau if we want to get anywhere.

He was right when he said fast food places put special ingredients in their foods to make you hungrier and crave more and more to get you to buy their product.How is this possible you may ask? Well,there is nothing really illegal in what the food industry is doing,but this is how it works.

High glycemic index items will increase your blood sugar really high.What happens then is your body pumps out huge amounts of insulin to get your blood sugar back to normal.Huge amounts of insulin make you hungry quicker.

Now,the fast food restaurants use flour with ingredients that make it high GI(glycemic index). Their meat is mixed with high GI agents. Their cheese is made from high GI agents. They use poor forms of oil with high amounts of trans fats. This is what Kevin's talking about. Diet foods (Low fat labelled foods) are even worse because they replace the fat with sugar. Sugar raises blood sugar levels,fat does not.Resulting in making you hungrier.

I think the real scam here is being run by the government and not Kevin Trudeau.

 

[LAZARU$]

Pffff the fuckin FTC has been on this guy's nuts from the very beginning. The reason he was charged was because the FTC decided his claims her false.There was absolutely no basis to their conclusions.All they did was say hey this is false,we're charging you.And the sad thing is that they can do that.

If you remember when I talked about the government trying to kill word about cures for diseases,this is a prime example of it. They don't want a person like Kevin Trudeau killing the drug industry. Notice how every single case was settled for money? Why isnt he in jail if he is such a fraud? Why would the FTC want to settle with him? Because they can't make a case to throw him in jail.And since Kevin has alot of money,he agreed to the settlements without going through a court system which is a big hassle and could end up costing him more money than settling.
And about his book Natural cures,well, the concepts which he gives are absolutely true,backed by studies. What's the problem with him plugging in his own supplements or whatever??? People talk about how this and that is false,but there is never any real evidence. Show me an unbiased study and i'll shut my mouth.Any study that proves Kevin's theories wrong are funded by the government.The government wants people to control their diseases by taking drugs for the rest of their lives and that is a fact.

Kevin also states a true fact on his infomercials which must not be taken lightly. Why would drug companies advertise drugs to people at home on their televisions. Isnt your doctor supposed to tell you that you need this drug and prescribe it to you? Have we gotten to the point where we have to go tell our doctors we want this drug.Then what the hell is a doctor for if we are telling him what we need.All we need from him is a signature.

I know people who run private clinics that cure all kinds of diseases wheather its cancer,diabetes,multiple sclerosis and I've seen it happen. Why would the government ban advertising of these clinics? Why is it illegal to have these clinics???

I would also like to ask a question.Why would the government set a law that states, a cure can only be labelled a cure if its a drug.It's true,if there is a cure,it has to be a drug.

look at this

The Commission files a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendant has actually violated the law


Again,there was absolutely no proof that Kevin's theories are false.

Don't be brainwashed by the government.We need more people like Kevin Trudeau if we want to get anywhere.

He was right when he said fast food places put special ingredients in their foods to make you hungrier and crave more and more to get you to buy their product.How is this possible you may ask? Well,there is nothing really illegal in what the food industry is doing,but this is how it works.

High glycemic index items will increase your blood sugar really high.What happens then is your body pumps out huge amounts of insulin to get your blood sugar back to normal.Huge amounts of insulin make you hungry quicker.

Now,the fast food restaurants use flour with ingredients that make it high GI(glycemic index). Their meat is mixed with high GI agents. Their cheese is made from high GI agents. They use poor forms of oil with high amounts of trans fats. This is what Kevin's talking about. Diet foods (Low fat labelled foods) are even worse because they replace the fat with sugar. Sugar raises blood sugar levels,fat does not.Resulting in making you hungrier.

I think the real scam here is being run by the government and not Kevin Trudeau.

:thumb: kick the knowledge mack,great post!

 

[PuffnScruff]

one of the "cures" calls for shark cartilage. where the hell is a regular person going to get that?

this guy is a scam artist. he has been around for awhile and has been caught in his fraudulent crimes before.

 

[Sebastian]

Pffff the fuckin FTC has been on this guy's nuts from the very beginning. The reason he was charged was because the FTC decided his claims her false.There was absolutely no basis to their conclusions.All they did was say hey this is false,we're charging you.And the sad thing is that they can do that.

If you remember when I talked about the government trying to kill word about cures for diseases,this is a prime example of it. They don't want a person like Kevin Trudeau killing the drug industry. Notice how every single case was settled for money? Why isnt he in jail if he is such a fraud? Why would the FTC want to settle with him? Because they can't make a case to throw him in jail.And since Kevin has alot of money,he agreed to the settlements without going through a court system which is a big hassle and could end up costing him more money than settling.

And about his book Natural cures,well, the concepts which he gives are absolutely true,backed by studies. What's the problem with him plugging in his own supplements or whatever??? People talk about how this and that is false,but there is never any real evidence. Show me an unbiased study and i'll shut my mouth.Any study that proves Kevin's theories wrong are funded by the government.The government wants people to control their diseases by taking drugs for the rest of their lives and that is a fact.

Kevin also states a true fact on his infomercials which must not be taken lightly. Why would drug companies advertise drugs to people at home on their televisions. Isnt your doctor supposed to tell you that you need this drug and prescribe it to you? Have we gotten to the point where we have to go tell our doctors we want this drug.Then what the hell is a doctor for if we are telling him what we need.All we need from him is a signature.

I know people who run private clinics that cure all kinds of diseases wheather its cancer,diabetes,multiple sclerosis and I've seen it happen. Why would the government ban advertising of these clinics? Why is it illegal to have these clinics???

I would also like to ask a question.Why would the government set a law that states, a cure can only be labelled a cure if its a drug.It's true,if there is a cure,it has to be a drug.

look at this

The Commission files a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendant has actually violated the law


Again,there was absolutely no proof that Kevin's theories are false.

Don't be brainwashed by the government.We need more people like Kevin Trudeau if we want to get anywhere.

He was right when he said fast food places put special ingredients in their foods to make you hungrier and crave more and more to get you to buy their product.How is this possible you may ask? Well,there is nothing really illegal in what the food industry is doing,but this is how it works.

High glycemic index items will increase your blood sugar really high.What happens then is your body pumps out huge amounts of insulin to get your blood sugar back to normal.Huge amounts of insulin make you hungry quicker.

Now,the fast food restaurants use flour with ingredients that make it high GI(glycemic index). Their meat is mixed with high GI agents. Their cheese is made from high GI agents. They use poor forms of oil with high amounts of trans fats. This is what Kevin's talking about. Diet foods (Low fat labelled foods) are even worse because they replace the fat with sugar. Sugar raises blood sugar levels,fat does not.Resulting in making you hungrier.

I think the real scam here is being run by the government and not Kevin Trudeau.

*waits for Illuminattile to respond*

 

[not really ken]

I know people who were shooting no sperm whatsoever and they ended up having kids. Listen, we have not reached no kind of 'evolutionary peak' in the field of medicine. There are many methods of curing people used in the middle and far east.

 

[Ghetto_Ghost]

I think the real scam here is being run by the government and not Kevin Trudeau.

i think everything is a scam
but if i want to run a scam i go to jail

fuck the world

 

[not really ken]

So yeah, the guy's an asshole conman, but it's not just the fact that he's taking peoples money with these scams. The thing that really angers me about these kind of frauds is who they are targeted. They prey on those who are suffering from these serious diseases - directly or indirectly - by promising cures for incurable diseases. They're giving false hope to those going through desperate times, and they're taking away their money as they do. That's not just wrong, that's evil.

Who gives a fuck - get your money on!! That's what I been told by everyone from a young age in school.
In my society drug dealers are glorified - this guys a priest compared to them, this guys only doing what everyone dreams about, making money at any cost. Good luck to him

 

[Ghetto_Ghost]

Who gives a fuck - get your money on!! That's what I been told by everyone from a young age in school.
In my society drug dealers are glorified - this guys a priest compared to them, this guys only doing what everyone dreams about, making money at any cost. Good luck to him

thats true. everyone shits on the gullible people who buy alot of shit they dont need so he's joining in. its not right but theres no such thing as the honor system anymore. im not saying thats good because it is unfortunate but its our fault, and mostly the governments fault for fucking it up.

 

[Jokerman]

OK. I have a third point-of-view from those of Illuminattile's and bigmack's. Don't shoot the message, should the messenger. I'd say about 90% of what he says is somewhat accurate and can be found in any number of good books and websites. However, he himself is a scam artist out to make money, plain and simple. There's nothing wrong with trying to make money, but you should at least care about what you're doing to make money. His book is virtually worthless. As I said, this info can be found anywhere; he's not bringing anything new to the table. Bigmack or I can give you all of it here. He has no integrity. There's no "Natural Cures" in his book. Everything is half explained with no scientific references to back it up (even though references do exist), and then you're referred to his website for these "cures" (where you have to sign up for a monthly membership to get them and to buy his shit).

"The sun does not cause cancer. Sunblock has been shown to cause cancer." is one of his statements. That is such a misleading half-truth twist on the truth that it's incompetent and irresponsible. The truth is too much sun can obviously cause cancer, esp in ppl with sensitive skin, and studies have shown that sunblock does not protect against melanoma cancer, even though it protects against sunburn and the less dangerous form of skin cancer. They absorb UVB radiation (the kind that produces sunburn) but let UVA radiation through, which is very harmful. So since ppl who use sunscreen tend to stay longer in the sun because they do not get a sunburn, they develop a false sense of security. And that's how sunblock "causes" cancer. But you wouldn't know that from Trudeau's sensational statement.

He might even be a possible front for Scientology, as he mentions Dianetics as a cure for depression and other emotional problems.

So even though there's some truth to the things he's saying, he's saying them in a confusing and irresponsible way and he's obviously out to make money. There's plenty of people in the health field who are saying it right and there's no need to get this half-assed and sensationally stated info from him.

 

[Jokerman]

Someone should stab a dog and hurl the carcass at him.

 

[bigmack]

^^i respect that.you made some solid points

even though kevin is making money from all of this with his supplements and newsletters,he is sending out the right message. i think the book is more of a beginners guide to cures than an actual cure recipe. and theres nothing special about his supplements,you can get these things from anywhere for alot cheaper.i dont think theres anything particularly wrong with him selling his supplements,because its pretty obvious the man is trying to make money from the very start.Or else why would he be on t.v selling a book.If he really cares about you,he'd give the book for free and tell you a way to get the supplements for cheap. if you are not smart enough to realize this,you have absolutely no reason to be mad if you get ripped off.

the problem isnt really with kevin or the drug industry ripping people off,its the stupidity within the people thats making them get ripped off. no one understands that nothing is given to you.you must gather knowledge,and put it all together yourself.

there is no holy grail. next time you find a book that guarantees to make you rich,dont get your hopes up.

the only use for these types of books or programs is to gather knowledge and do your own research. to get an idea and work from there.

 

[Ghetto_Ghost]

Someone should stab a dog and hurl the carcass at him.

i'll fill that void

 

[Illuminattile]

Pffff the fuckin FTC has been on this guy's nuts from the very beginning. The reason he was charged was because the FTC decided his claims her false.There was absolutely no basis to their conclusions.All they did was say hey this is false,we're charging you.And the sad thing is that they can do that.

The coral calcium argument has been disproved countless times. It's a scam, pure and simple. The only people who actually believe the claims are those who sell it and those who buy it. Search Google for 'coral calcium'. Amongst the dozens of online shops selling it for ridiculous prices you'll find countless people explaining why it's bullshit. They're all government funded? Please.

Dr. Weil, clinical professor of internal medicine and public health.
TIME Magazine
QuackWatch
HealthWatcher
http://www.chem1.com/CQ/coralscams.html.
UC Berkeley
Even the Okinawa Centenarian Study have spoken out against the misrepresentation of their research.

Kevin also states a true fact on his infomercials which must not be taken lightly. Why would drug companies advertise drugs to people at home on their televisions. Isnt your doctor supposed to tell you that you need this drug and prescribe it to you? Have we gotten to the point where we have to go tell our doctors we want this drug.Then what the hell is a doctor for if we are telling him what we need.All we need from him is a signature.

Don't get me wrong, I know drug companies are pretty heartless and mostly in it for the money. They are a business, and all businesses need demand. Unlike many businesses, though, they are able to create a demand by making people think they need medication when they don't. I didn't realise until I watched some American television on holiday exactly how much drug companies advertise in the US.

Don't be brainwashed by the government.We need more people like Kevin Trudeau if we want to get anywhere.

Don't let your paranoia about the government and your hatred of drug companies cloud your judgement. These claims are bogus. As I said, Kevin Trudeau is not a doctor. He has no expertise whatsoever. The reason he is promoting this product and not doctors is because he's a scam artist. He recognises that there are people who will buy into this stuff and spend a lot of money on it. People like you who have such a distrust of the government and big business that you'll eat up anything that makes them look shady. People who are desperate to find a cure for diseases that they or their families are suffering from.

I think the real scam here is being run by the government and not Kevin Trudeau.

Surprise surprise. You seem to think that "the [American] government" has the power to supress these claims worldwide. If these claims of a sure-fire, proven Cancer cure were true, you seriously think the FDA would be able to stop it hitting shelves in Europe?

Who gives a fuck - get your money on!! That's what I been told by everyone from a young age in school.
In my society drug dealers are glorified - this guys a priest compared to them, this guys only doing what everyone dreams about, making money at any cost. Good luck to him

I'm surprised to hear that from you, ken. "Get your money on" is a selfish view to hold.

 

[bigmack]

The coral calcium argument has been disproved countless times. It's a scam, pure and simple. The only people who actually believe the claims are those who sell it and those who buy it. Search Google for 'coral calcium'. Amongst the dozens of online shops selling it for ridiculous prices you'll find countless people explaining why it's bullshit. They're all government funded? Please.

bro, i never said the coral calcium thing is true. i said the concept is true(about body pH affecting the disease) and i never once mentioned any one of his supplements being able to cure.i explained this in a thread long time ago. coral calcium obviously doesnt work,but just because that supplement was mentioned doesnt mean the cure concept is false.

and I wasnt talking about supplement studies being government funded,im talking about concept studies. i've read a whole bunch of medical journals,and everytime theres a concept study being disproved,you look at the bottom and it says this study was funded by the FDA or the government.hmmm suspicious is it not? i have never seen a positive report funded by the government UNLESS its for a drug.

Don't let your paranoia about the government and your hatred of drug companies cloud your judgement. These claims are bogus. As I said, Kevin Trudeau is not a doctor. He has no expertise whatsoever. The reason he is promoting this product and not doctors is because he's a scam artist. He recognises that there are people who will buy into this stuff and spend a lot of money on it. People like you who have such a distrust of the government and big business that you'll eat up anything that makes them look shady. People who are desperate to find a cure for diseases that they or their families are suffering from.

You got it all wrong.I dont buy into anything.If i read something that sparks my interest,i pursue it further and learn more about it with my own research.I dont buy into cheap gimmicks.I know for a fact that no one will ever give you an "answer" to your "problem".

Surprise surprise. You seem to think that "the [American] government" has the power to supress these claims worldwide. If these claims of a sure-fire, proven Cancer cure were true, you seriously think the FDA would be able to stop it hitting shelves in Europe?

of course. You do realize the government goes out and pays people who found cures to shut their mouths.In my city,the university found a cure for diabetes,but the government payed them 30 million dollars to keep it a secret.thats peanuts to the money the drug industry makes from diabetes drugs and supplies.

You think someone will refuse millions and millions of dollars just to look like they have morals? Would you refuse millions of dollars if you were in that situation? i dont think theres anyone that would.

 

[Illuminattile]

You think someone will refuse millions and millions of dollars just to look like they have morals? Would you refuse millions of dollars if you were in that situation? i dont think theres anyone that would.

I could make billions if I had a cure for cancer/diabetes/AIDS.