Kastro comments on the Candyman 187 and Shock G situation!

yak pac fatal said:
the asshole is callin u a candyman dickryder

I know that, but for what reason. I've never even said anything positive or negative about Candyman, much less mention his name up until 30 minutes ago. That guy is obviously a dumbass for his retarded ass comment that has nothing to do with anything I've said.
 
How the fuck can you guys call yourselves Pac fans and then hate on Candyman when he's one of the ONLY people really reppin Pacs legacy.
 
Hussein Da Don said:
^^ Nah thats true, all I wanna know is the whole story, I never hated once, untill people began coming at me talkin bout im ignorant so I had to defend myself. Candyman why would I come at you like that, if we talked on aim and what not, and niggaz was coo wit each other. Then you got the niggaz in here that love you comin at me hatin on me and what not. What im suppose to do, let that shit slide. I defended myself. I aint mean no disrespect to you, and you do what you do and good luck to you in the future. I jus wanna know more details, shit to me dont add up when I really think of it. But I could be wrong, you seem to always avoid the question when people ask you about Pac and shit.


I never hated on none of yall.. so otherz hatin on u shouldnt cause u 2 hate on me... ive showed every1 love and respect until they force me 2 do otherwise... when u told me 2 check ur cd i never hated on it or nothin...

PACCOLLECTOR- i understand exactly what u guyz are sayin im not denyin that shit may not all add up 2 yall and i respect yallz opinion.. i only get mad when im called a liar or personal shotz r taken...

First off... tha reason i dont sit here and reply 2 every pac question iz tha same reazon i cut interviewerz off when they keep askin me pac questionz... itz lyke i aint tryin 2 be under pac shadow my whole lyfe... thatz waz my nigga 2 tha heart but i aint tryin to Pac or yak everyone out... aint my intentionz... i will ride 4 my brotherz 2 tha end though...

im asked tha same questionz each n everytyme... if u check my interviewz most of yall will c that i have already answered most of ur questionz... az far az tha trackz ive explained my reazonz 4 not givin em up lyke thiz...

i waz 10 goin on 11 when i met pac... he took a liking 2 me... believe me i waznt tha only youngsta that he looked out 4... we just got close because we shared a lotta tha same painz n demonz... i know a cat 2 thiz day who iz a doctor thanx 2 pac... nobody talkz bout that... i just chose 2 step up n try 2 save whatever is left of pac's legacy because he gave me my lyfe so i ride 4 him... i dont blame no1 4 questionz or opinions... i just trip when niggaz get disrespectful... questionin me iz not disrespectful shit im glad niggaz got enough sense not 2 just believe everything thatz fed 2 them... but damn yall give a nigga a break...

yall really think if i waznt who i am that id be takin care of yak daughterz? id be ridin wit shock n them? storm lyke my sister homiez... tha thing iz im ridin 4 somethin that niggaz 4 got bout... niggaz waz scared 2 ride 4 pac tha way i do because u WILL get killed doin thiz shit... it aint a game...

yaasmyn knew who i waz way be4 she ever met me... she waz just so disappointed with tha majority of people who had rode alongside wit pac n how they had handled shit that she really aint wanna fuck wit nobody else... with her problemz n issuez wit tha outlawz she had gotten real turned off 2 most of pac's homiez until i stepped in 2 her life... it waz stephen's persistence that linked uz up... once we did link up she knew everythin bout me from tha gate...

also yall gotta understand eventually im going 2 go in 2 depth... ive already done it on 2 diff documentariez... about me pac yak tha havenotz everything...

atron gregory's new documentary got me on it which will be comin soon and so doez thiz new bbc thing i just did... yall just gotta relax.. itz a busines i cant give everything up right away otherwise ill get borin 2 niggaz real quick... i do thiz 4 a livin i gotta save somethin 4 tha source n vibe interviewz lol!

every1 feelz lyke they knew pac it took hiz 6 yrz in tha business and then 9 yrz afterwardz 4 yall 2 find out a lotta info bout him n itz new stuff still comin out everyday... yall still dont know everythin about pac... therez thingz me n shock talk bout that we will take 2 tha grave... remember pac whole life waz so exposed that he didnt get 2 keep nothin 4 himself... theirs partz of hiz lyfe that we want that boy 2 be able 2 keep man... just 4 himself... u know let him have some privacy... keep a part of hiz lyfe 2 himself...

Give it tyme n yall will learn more bout me... like i said understand im tryin 2 bring back a legacy which haz been destroyed it aint tha easiest thang... i dont blame u 4 doubtin me or questionin me but understand im a regular nigga lyke yall... i waz fortunate enough 2 know pac... 2 be in hiz tutilage.. and he ended up basically takin me in az hiz lil bro... yall may not believe me or everything i say but im sure all real pac fanz will agree that ive been ridin 4 him and tryin 2 preserve hiz legacy 2 tha fullest... if yall can agree 2 that... than support a nigga and in time get 2 know a nigga... n letz all bring thiz shit back 2 tha way it waz supposta be...

and understand im a regular nigga lyke yall im ridin 4 yall.. tha tru fanz... so when yall hate on me it make me flip cuz im lyke damn theze supposta be tha niggaz down wit me!!! im puttin my lyfe on tha line 4 tha shit i believe in, yall believe in, pac believed, and yak believed in... but a nigga be goin through personal shit 2 ... i cant respond 2 every1 all tha tyme but i try 2 stop through and give my insight on situationz az much az possible...

much luv n respect

one thug one nation
 
Da_Funk said:
How the fuck can you guys call yourselves Pac fans and then hate on Candyman when he's one of the ONLY people really reppin Pacs legacy.

Anyone hattin' on Candyman it's personal shit and nothing to do with this convo bro. No one is questioning how he's contributing to the legacey from 2002-Now, there wanting direct answers to his direct affilitations he says he's had with Yak & Pac. Isn't this a fuckin forum where we would want to know this shit and any info on getting a better understanding and the peeps that surrounded pac. If he says he knew pac people just want the details and especially if no full story has been put out and the one that is doesn't really make any sense. Who else better to tell it then himself. If he wants to lay it out it's up to him but lotta people gettin confused over this shit because it doesn't add up. I've always though good shit about him but want a better understanding of how this shit pieced together and what really happened.
 
.. believe me i waznt tha only youngsta that he looked out 4..
I remember on In His Own Words CD, Pac talked something like he was going to organize a new group, like give a chance to the young bros from the ghetto, so I don't think Candyman is lying.. It's like we can't tell what we think st8 to Amaru (cuz the ain't here) so we do that 2 Candyman, c'mon guyz...
btw I don't understand why Kastro didn't know about the Havenotz, I think Pac mentioned it...
 
Candyman 187 said:
I never hated on none of yall.. so otherz hatin on u shouldnt cause u 2 hate on me... ive showed every1 love and respect until they force me 2 do otherwise... when u told me 2 check ur cd i never hated on it or nothin...

PACCOLLECTOR- i understand exactly what u guyz are sayin im not denyin that shit may not all add up 2 yall and i respect yallz opinion.. i only get mad when im called a liar or personal shotz r taken...

First off... tha reason i dont sit here and reply 2 every pac question iz tha same reazon i cut interviewerz off when they keep askin me pac questionz... itz lyke i aint tryin 2 be under pac shadow my whole lyfe... thatz waz my nigga 2 tha heart but i aint tryin to Pac or yak everyone out... aint my intentionz... i will ride 4 my brotherz 2 tha end though...

im asked tha same questionz each n everytyme... if u check my interviewz most of yall will c that i have already answered most of ur questionz... az far az tha trackz ive explained my reazonz 4 not givin em up lyke thiz...

i waz 10 goin on 11 when i met pac... he took a liking 2 me... believe me i waznt tha only youngsta that he looked out 4... we just got close because we shared a lotta tha same painz n demonz... i know a cat 2 thiz day who iz a doctor thanx 2 pac... nobody talkz bout that... i just chose 2 step up n try 2 save whatever is left of pac's legacy because he gave me my lyfe so i ride 4 him... i dont blame no1 4 questionz or opinions... i just trip when niggaz get disrespectful... questionin me iz not disrespectful shit im glad niggaz got enough sense not 2 just believe everything thatz fed 2 them... but damn yall give a nigga a break...

yall really think if i waznt who i am that id be takin care of yak daughterz? id be ridin wit shock n them? storm lyke my sister homiez... tha thing iz im ridin 4 somethin that niggaz 4 got bout... niggaz waz scared 2 ride 4 pac tha way i do because u WILL get killed doin thiz shit... it aint a game...

yaasmyn knew who i waz way be4 she ever met me... she waz just so disappointed with tha majority of people who had rode alongside wit pac n how they had handled shit that she really aint wanna fuck wit nobody else... with her problemz n issuez wit tha outlawz she had gotten real turned off 2 most of pac's homiez until i stepped in 2 her life... it waz stephen's persistence that linked uz up... once we did link up she knew everythin bout me from tha gate...

also yall gotta understand eventually im going 2 go in 2 depth... ive already done it on 2 diff documentariez... about me pac yak tha havenotz everything...

atron gregory's new documentary got me on it which will be comin soon and so doez thiz new bbc thing i just did... yall just gotta relax.. itz a busines i cant give everything up right away otherwise ill get borin 2 niggaz real quick... i do thiz 4 a livin i gotta save somethin 4 tha source n vibe interviewz lol!

every1 feelz lyke they knew pac it took hiz 6 yrz in tha business and then 9 yrz afterwardz 4 yall 2 find out a lotta info bout him n itz new stuff still comin out everyday... yall still dont know everythin about pac... therez thingz me n shock talk bout that we will take 2 tha grave... remember pac whole life waz so exposed that he didnt get 2 keep nothin 4 himself... theirs partz of hiz lyfe that we want that boy 2 be able 2 keep man... just 4 himself... u know let him have some privacy... keep a part of hiz lyfe 2 himself...

Give it tyme n yall will learn more bout me... like i said understand im tryin 2 bring back a legacy which haz been destroyed it aint tha easiest thang... i dont blame u 4 doubtin me or questionin me but understand im a regular nigga lyke yall... i waz fortunate enough 2 know pac... 2 be in hiz tutilage.. and he ended up basically takin me in az hiz lil bro... yall may not believe me or everything i say but im sure all real pac fanz will agree that ive been ridin 4 him and tryin 2 preserve hiz legacy 2 tha fullest... if yall can agree 2 that... than support a nigga and in time get 2 know a nigga... n letz all bring thiz shit back 2 tha way it waz supposta be...

and understand im a regular nigga lyke yall im ridin 4 yall.. tha tru fanz... so when yall hate on me it make me flip cuz im lyke damn theze supposta be tha niggaz down wit me!!! im puttin my lyfe on tha line 4 tha shit i believe in, yall believe in, pac believed, and yak believed in... but a nigga be goin through personal shit 2 ... i cant respond 2 every1 all tha tyme but i try 2 stop through and give my insight on situationz az much az possible...

much luv n respect

one thug one nation


keep doin wat chu doin man

much respect
 
See whats funny is how this guy comes out of no where and people all of a sudden beleive him like he is God. Kastro being 2Pacs cousin (Blood) and nobody belives him. Talk about dick riding huh? Who dick are you all riding? Candyman187's? LOL. He was influenced by 2PAC just like any other fan. No diss to Candyman or Outlawz, but people are interfering with other peoples business and taking sides like some bitches. People need to grow up. People are making a big deal about shit that is non of their business. I could care less about the problems, all I want is some fucking OG 2PAC music. What problems are there are between Candy & Lawz.
 
Comatose187 said:
See whats funny is how this guy comes out of no where and people all of a sudden beleive him like he is God. Kastro being 2Pacs cousin (Blood) and nobody belives him. Talk about dick riding huh? Who dick are you all riding? Candyman187's? LOL. He was influenced by 2PAC just like any other fan. No diss to Candyman or Outlawz, but people are interfering with other peoples business and taking sides like some bitches. People need to grow up. People are making a big deal about shit that is non of their business. I could care less about the problems, all I want is some fucking OG 2PAC music. What problems are there are between Candy & Lawz.

blood cousin or not, he's hating because candyman gets much more respect from criticts and fans then them outlawz, the only one who defend the outlawz are their fans over @ 1nationentertainment forums.. oh yeah and Hussein..
people with no affiliation or whatever feel that candyman speaks up with a true message.. why else would someone who is not know well get interviews over @ allhiphop.com and dubcnn.com (pac tribute thing) ?? tell me that
face it, the outlawz haven't done a good song in years.. they what pac's legacy should stand for? if so then we better quit posting here right now because what they bring ain't shit

and PS i don't care about sales

the outlawz might sell more but so does 50 cent, he sells more then Immortal Technique, and we all know IT is 1000 times a better rapper then fiddy huh

it's about real music, and in candyman's music you hear lyrics that make you think about things... that's the music i like, with a message

the outlawz carried pac's legacy for a while, but they fucked up, now someone tries to bring back Pac's legacy in a much realer way with stuff ya can relate too and also including Og's on his tracks (Shock G, Mopreme, Storm(!!)) all those ppl that the outlawz don't work with..
 
i dunno man...

who 2 believe in these lie's n shit... u kno, why motherfuckaz got 2 lie 2 us 4... we the ones dat are goin 2 work, we the ones that are buyin der shit they record in a studio with the money we make, we the ones addin 2 der bank balance...

whens enuf ? whens enuf 2 say, na... i ain gonna buy des albums again, the same ol same ol gettin recycled 4 the new youth of listeners who know 'fuck all' about our man Shakur...

its kinda like, why we still buyin pac's cd's when they bein batched out like LTTG?? cos if we dont the legacy gonna die? the legacy gonna die? the legacy already dyin... n its diein a painful death thanks 2 the people in charge...

kinda like... when u got sum 1 u luv, dey dyin a painful death... do u jus sit der n watch n not even contemplate puttin em outta dey misery? what about if they askin u 2 put em outta they misery? what would pac want if he knew his shit was goin out on records like dis? he would hate it, im sure... so time 2 put it outta its misery or what?

let them hav der youthful new listerners.. time will prevail... that pac ain gonna be no boy band or nuttin, these listeners wont b der 4 pac 4 long... dey dont understand pac 2 tolerate pac...

das why we got 2 say enuf... lay low, the real followers of pac jus lay low n say fuck that shit... let em fuck emselves up, whats the worst that could happen?? we never get 2 hear any of the other OG'S cos we let a legacy die with lack of support?

ain look like we gonna get 2 hear any OG's released real soon, last pac album in 2006... think we gotta b real here... they ain gonna be releasin what we want, an album of OG's

im not sayin not support 2PAC ... im sayin, dont support the bullshit they tryina feed 2 us... if we get sumin real, den we gotta support 4 the real, but dont support 4 the fake if u a real pac follower

i kno tha lawz ain cool, i kno on many instances the lawz are a bunch of bitches, be it 2 other people reppin 4 pac... they got a total lack of disrespect... and thats why i side with candyman, shock.. havnotz... mopreme

cos i jus wana see sum real pac shit get released, n they the ones who got the bes chance outta all of us here 2 make a change 4 the better... :mad:
 
Candyman 187 said:
I never hated on none of yall.. so otherz hatin on u shouldnt cause u 2 hate on me... ive showed every1 love and respect until they force me 2 do otherwise... when u told me 2 check ur cd i never hated on it or nothin...

PACCOLLECTOR- i understand exactly what u guyz are sayin im not denyin that shit may not all add up 2 yall and i respect yallz opinion.. i only get mad when im called a liar or personal shotz r taken...

First off... tha reason i dont sit here and reply 2 every pac question iz tha same reazon i cut interviewerz off when they keep askin me pac questionz... itz lyke i aint tryin 2 be under pac shadow my whole lyfe... thatz waz my nigga 2 tha heart but i aint tryin to Pac or yak everyone out... aint my intentionz... i will ride 4 my brotherz 2 tha end though...

im asked tha same questionz each n everytyme... if u check my interviewz most of yall will c that i have already answered most of ur questionz... az far az tha trackz ive explained my reazonz 4 not givin em up lyke thiz...

i waz 10 goin on 11 when i met pac... he took a liking 2 me... believe me i waznt tha only youngsta that he looked out 4... we just got close because we shared a lotta tha same painz n demonz... i know a cat 2 thiz day who iz a doctor thanx 2 pac... nobody talkz bout that... i just chose 2 step up n try 2 save whatever is left of pac's legacy because he gave me my lyfe so i ride 4 him... i dont blame no1 4 questionz or opinions... i just trip when niggaz get disrespectful... questionin me iz not disrespectful shit im glad niggaz got enough sense not 2 just believe everything thatz fed 2 them... but damn yall give a nigga a break...

yall really think if i waznt who i am that id be takin care of yak daughterz? id be ridin wit shock n them? storm lyke my sister homiez... tha thing iz im ridin 4 somethin that niggaz 4 got bout... niggaz waz scared 2 ride 4 pac tha way i do because u WILL get killed doin thiz shit... it aint a game...

yaasmyn knew who i waz way be4 she ever met me... she waz just so disappointed with tha majority of people who had rode alongside wit pac n how they had handled shit that she really aint wanna fuck wit nobody else... with her problemz n issuez wit tha outlawz she had gotten real turned off 2 most of pac's homiez until i stepped in 2 her life... it waz stephen's persistence that linked uz up... once we did link up she knew everythin bout me from tha gate...

also yall gotta understand eventually im going 2 go in 2 depth... ive already done it on 2 diff documentariez... about me pac yak tha havenotz everything...

atron gregory's new documentary got me on it which will be comin soon and so doez thiz new bbc thing i just did... yall just gotta relax.. itz a busines i cant give everything up right away otherwise ill get borin 2 niggaz real quick... i do thiz 4 a livin i gotta save somethin 4 tha source n vibe interviewz lol!

every1 feelz lyke they knew pac it took hiz 6 yrz in tha business and then 9 yrz afterwardz 4 yall 2 find out a lotta info bout him n itz new stuff still comin out everyday... yall still dont know everythin about pac... therez thingz me n shock talk bout that we will take 2 tha grave... remember pac whole life waz so exposed that he didnt get 2 keep nothin 4 himself... theirs partz of hiz lyfe that we want that boy 2 be able 2 keep man... just 4 himself... u know let him have some privacy... keep a part of hiz lyfe 2 himself...

Give it tyme n yall will learn more bout me... like i said understand im tryin 2 bring back a legacy which haz been destroyed it aint tha easiest thang... i dont blame u 4 doubtin me or questionin me but understand im a regular nigga lyke yall... i waz fortunate enough 2 know pac... 2 be in hiz tutilage.. and he ended up basically takin me in az hiz lil bro... yall may not believe me or everything i say but im sure all real pac fanz will agree that ive been ridin 4 him and tryin 2 preserve hiz legacy 2 tha fullest... if yall can agree 2 that... than support a nigga and in time get 2 know a nigga... n letz all bring thiz shit back 2 tha way it waz supposta be...

and understand im a regular nigga lyke yall im ridin 4 yall.. tha tru fanz... so when yall hate on me it make me flip cuz im lyke damn theze supposta be tha niggaz down wit me!!! im puttin my lyfe on tha line 4 tha shit i believe in, yall believe in, pac believed, and yak believed in... but a nigga be goin through personal shit 2 ... i cant respond 2 every1 all tha tyme but i try 2 stop through and give my insight on situationz az much az possible...

much luv n respect

one thug one nation

Real talk homie.
 
Cant Wait for that new "CANDYMAN 187" album it was a pleasure cookin up some food for that album.Hold ya head~ Candy this is just the beginning of a long journey ahead of you and u got my support to the fullest and the rest of the OG's of the Camp.On this journey you will find many obstacles haters and foes,jelousy that feel your wrath.One thing i can add is that CANDYMAN187 will ride and is no joke and takes this and past war shit deeply more than anyone.He's the future of the legacy and the new generation.~Assassin Craig "PO" Nitty
 
Thug Lifestyle said:
blood cousin or not, he's hating because candyman gets much more respect from criticts and fans then them outlawz, the only one who defend the outlawz are their fans over @ 1nationentertainment forums.. oh yeah and Hussein..
people with no affiliation or whatever feel that candyman speaks up with a true message.. why else would someone who is not know well get interviews over @ allhiphop.com and dubcnn.com (pac tribute thing) ?? tell me that
face it, the outlawz haven't done a good song in years.. they what pac's legacy should stand for? if so then we better quit posting here right now because what they bring ain't shit

and PS i don't care about sales

the outlawz might sell more but so does 50 cent, he sells more then Immortal Technique, and we all know IT is 1000 times a better rapper then fiddy huh

it's about real music, and in candyman's music you hear lyrics that make you think about things... that's the music i like, with a message

the outlawz carried pac's legacy for a while, but they fucked up, now someone tries to bring back Pac's legacy in a much realer way with stuff ya can relate too and also including Og's on his tracks (Shock G, Mopreme, Storm(!!)) all those ppl that the outlawz don't work with..
Yeahhh thats true :)
 
Candyman 187 said:
one thug one nation

That's good enough for me! Understand the business end of it and can't wait to see y'all doing more shit in the future. Keep doin' ur thing and reppin Pac like you do .. Can't wait to peep ur album.
Much Luv & support
 
assassin said:
Cant Wait for that new "CANDYMAN 187" album it was a pleasure cookin up some food for that album.Hold ya head~ Candy this is just the beginning of a long journey ahead of you and u got my support to the fullest and the rest of the OG's of the Camp.On this journey you will find many obstacles haters and foes,jelousy that feel your wrath.One thing i can add is that CANDYMAN187 will ride and is no joke and takes this and past war shit deeply more than anyone.He's the future of the legacy and the new generation.~Assassin Craig "PO" Nitty

thruthly words partner! Fuck of, tha haterz they r nothin... Candyman doin ya thing, u know i stand 100 % behind u 'n tha Havenotz...!
 
assassin said:
Cant Wait for that new "CANDYMAN 187" album it was a pleasure cookin up some food for that album.Hold ya head~ Candy this is just the beginning of a long journey ahead of you and u got my support to the fullest and the rest of the OG's of the Camp.On this journey you will find many obstacles haters and foes,jelousy that feel your wrath.One thing i can add is that CANDYMAN187 will ride and is no joke and takes this and past war shit deeply more than anyone.He's the future of the legacy and the new generation.~Assassin Craig "PO" Nitty

real talk :thumb:
 
i'd love to see cm187 ride on the remaining lawz with a diss track featuring fatal & strom (with shock producin it)

carnt wait 4 his album 2 drop, does any1 know if its been fully mixed yet?????
 
It seems if you like Candyman and believe him you become a dick rider. Why? Same with the Lawz, if someone is a Lawz fan don't hate him.

You people need to learn to construct your posts and work on your arguments. K is 2pac's cousin, fine. But when he is blatantly lying and thinks he is better than he is. He's gonna get his card called. Yeah the Lawz were close to Pac. But I cna't see any of them standing on their own as men. They eat of 2pac and are only remembered because of that. They don't preserve the legacy and seem to have forgotten he ven existed or in any of his beliefs. Afeni wants the best for her son, and knows what he wants. But she can't help the music side. Haven't you noticed that the projects Afeni works on are the ones that represent 2pac the best and are the most succesful. I support the school to the fullest. But don't think I can buy another 2pac album unless there is an improvement. And that is saying something considering I have spent more than 10K collecting 2pac cd's - singles, promos.. But you have to draw the line somewhere and I've had enough. No more new albums from Amaru for me.
 

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