It's hard to believe people like this really exist....

[Casey]

This is probably the stupidest person I've ever heard about.

http://portsmouthnaziwatch.blogspot.com/2011/12/portsmouth-nazi-exposed.html?m=1

 

[vg4030]

This is my new hero, he reminds me of that woman that was busted on the train a week or so ago.

Actually, one of my ex's was from Portsmouth and Ive never experienced such blatant 'in your face' racism as I did when I visited her

People (including little kids) in the street would just say things to your face and act TOTALLY normal about it!

 

[Casey]

Portsmouth is a shithole.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Wasn't the edl created by an Indian man? I believe he's a Sikh.

 

[vg4030]

Wasn't the edl created by an Indian man? I believe he's a Sikh.

There is a sikh guy in the BNP.. I think he's their treasurer or something

 

[Casey]

Wasn't the edl created by an Indian man? I believe he's a Sikh.

Guramit Singh. He didn't create it lol, he's just part of it. And appears to be a racist himself. Which doesn't surprise me as there are many Indians I've seen being racist against Muslims and Pakistanis. The irony of Sikhism being founded as a middle ground between Hinduism and Islam has apparently been lost on these people.

It's funny how upset they get when you inform them that there are more Muslims in Punjab than there are Sikhs (Punjab as in the inclusive Punjab of both the Indian side and Pakistani side).

http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/index.ph...kis-meet-the-edls-anti-racist-poster-boy.html

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Guramit Singh. He didn't create it lol, he's just part of it. And appears to be a racist himself. Which doesn't surprise me as there are many Indians I've seen being racist against Muslims and Pakistanis. The irony of Sikhism being founded as a middle ground between Hinduism and Islam has apparently been lost on these people.

It's funny how upset they get when you inform them that there are more Muslims in Punjab than there are Sikhs (Punjab as in the inclusive Punjab of both the Indian side and Pakistani side).

http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/index.ph...kis-meet-the-edls-anti-racist-poster-boy.html

ah fair enough, I watched some BBC documentary and he was going on about how he starts the demonstrations etc.

I agree, most Sikhs in my family hate Muslims/Pakistanis. Only my immediate family seem to have no issue with them; and yeah Sikh's won't really comment that Guru Nanak Ji was born into a Hindu family, just downplay it.

 

[dilla]

Daddy told me, marry whoever you want. Just don't bring home a blackie or a Muslim.

He doesn't hate blackies (not sure about Muslims, he works with them in the hospital, though) so I'm not sure where this comes from. But it is an Indian thing, many of my Indian friends' parents are the same.

 

[masta247]

What I don't understand is how is that possible that a person like that can have any friends. And he has 600 friends on his Facebook list. It means that over 600 guys/girls are retarded enough to keep him as their friends. And his FB comments actually get a lot likes and sincere comments.

 

[Pittsey]

I went on a Stag do to Blackpool with an Indian friend. The in your face racism he got was absurd. Disgusting. He was a champion kick boxer as well, so more than likely could have smashed their faces in. But he smiled, and laughed it off. Don't get me wrong, us white guys and him always had a bit of "racist" banter, but when someone who isn't a friend does it, it pisses you off.

 

[Casey]

Daddy told me, marry whoever you want. Just don't bring home a blackie or a Muslim.

An Indian guy I know is dating a black Muslim woman. I think his parents were surprised. LOL. But who the fuck cares what they think. Marry whoever the hell you want, it's your life.

 

[S O F I]

I was once very racist against a group of Indian guys from Britain. They made inappropriate comments to a female friend of mine and I basically said they're not really British, they were just colonized. It wasn't about truth at that point obviously, but about insulting them.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

I remember when the elections were happening prior to the Conservative party winning the majority votes... there was a black man (i can't remember his name) working in line with Nick Griffin in his local area and promoting the BNP. It was on the news and sometimes I think how retarded can some people be. laughing stock.

 

[dilla]

An Indian guy I know is dating a black Muslim woman. I think his parents were surprised. LOL. But who the fuck cares what they think. Marry whoever the hell you want, it's your life.

Yeah, but I haven't found myself at that crossroad yet.

 

[Casey]

Yeah, but I haven't found myself at that crossroad yet.

Yeah, but you shouldn't even be thinking about it. You should laugh at how utterly ridiculous it is and say "You know what dad, you're completely wrong."

Here's a true story. My cousin-sister was engaged to a Muslim guy back in the 90's. Her father - my uncle was another Indian on the anti-Islam brigade. As you said - it's not uncommon. He was so deadset against it that they broke up under the pressure of it all. And they were a great couple. Deeply in love. He treated her really well. Everybody enjoyed the two of them being together... except for my uncle.

Anyway, she went on to marry an Indian guy and have kids with him. My niece and nephew. Great kids. But he's an asshole and treated her horribly. And it got worse over time. Now they've been divorced for at least a couple of years but all the legal situation is still dragging out. Custody battles. Property/financial battles over their marital home and who contributed what. It's horrible for the kids. They're still young but it's clearly affecting them quite deeply. My cousin-sister basically feels like he's ruined her life.

My uncle chilled out over time. Another of his daughters married a Muslim guy some time later and there was no issue there. I think he regretted causing unhappiness for one of his children.

So my point is obviously this. Fuck what your family think. Fuck outdated "cultural values". It's 2011. That shit should be a thing of the past. But unfortunately the problem with immigration is that immigrants often are frozen in a time bubble of what their culture was like at the time when they left their country. You see it all the time here, people who moved here decades ago but still act like they live in mid 20th century Punjab. It makes no sense. They don't even realize Punjab ain't the same place any more. The people there now have modern, relevant values. I should know, I play gigs there all the time. The last time I was in Chandigarh we played in a nightclub that had paintings of Tupac and Kurt Cobain on the walls. You see inter-caste couples, inter-racial couples, gay couples, lesbians. It's a modern place with modern values and even the older generation there understand this. Not the case here in most immigrant communities. It's a bizarre phenomenon. I guess people were so scared about "losing" their culture that they desperately hung on to every last part of it without evolving to suit the times and habitats.

 

[dilla]

But I don't want to marry a black girl. We'd end up paying for both the reception and the wedding. And they'll stay in my house and eat all my food and shit.

Like I said, I'm not at the crossroad where marriage is even on my mind. Shit can change. But the prospect of having to deal with Islamic values in the household is not a good one.

If she doesn't believe in Islam, then it's another story. I'm not outlawing alcohol and pork in my house for shit.

 

[masta247]

I could live with anyone unless their beliefs were really extreme. I could live with any other race, though I won't lie that I have a bit harder time accepting muslims. But it's not because they're muslims per se, it's because from my experience they usually annoy me with their bullshit. I also met a normal muslim once. I suppose that if it comes to religion I have no problems with living with an agnostic, atheist or a christian. All others too untill they are really reasonable and not too vocal with their beliefs.

 

[dilla]

Yeah, but you shouldn't even be thinking about it. You should laugh at how utterly ridiculous it is and say "You know what dad, you're completely wrong."

Here's a true story. My cousin-sister was engaged to a Muslim guy back in the 90's. Her father - my uncle was another Indian on the anti-Islam brigade. As you said - it's not uncommon. He was so deadset against it that they broke up under the pressure of it all. And they were a great couple. Deeply in love. He treated her really well. Everybody enjoyed the two of them being together... except for my uncle.

Anyway, she went on to marry an Indian guy and have kids with him. My niece and nephew. Great kids. But he's an asshole and treated her horribly. And it got worse over time. Now they've been divorced for at least a couple of years but all the legal situation is still dragging out. Custody battles. Property/financial battles over their marital home and who contributed what. It's horrible for the kids. They're still young but it's clearly affecting them quite deeply. My cousin-sister basically feels like he's ruined her life.

My uncle chilled out over time. Another of his daughters married a Muslim guy some time later and there was no issue there. I think he regretted causing unhappiness for one of his children.

So my point is obviously this. Fuck what your family think. Fuck outdated "cultural values". It's 2011. That shit should be a thing of the past. But unfortunately the problem with immigration is that immigrants often are frozen in a time bubble of what their culture was like at the time when they left their country. You see it all the time here, people who moved here decades ago but still act like they live in mid 20th century Punjab. It makes no sense. They don't even realize Punjab ain't the same place any more. The people there now have modern, relevant values. I should know, I play gigs there all the time. The last time I was in Chandigarh we played in a nightclub that had paintings of Tupac and Kurt Cobain on the walls. You see inter-caste couples, inter-racial couples, gay couples, lesbians. It's a modern place with modern values and even the older generation there understand this. Not the case here in most immigrant communities. It's a bizarre phenomenon. I guess people were so scared about "losing" their culture that they desperately hung on to every last part of it without evolving to suit the times and habitats.

If I recall correctly, you too had a thread, or were the most prominent poster in a thread that went along the lines of "fuck Islam." You actually made it your mission to dispel religion, but attacked Islam the most. Maybe it was a thread about drawings of Muhammed? Something along those lines. I really doubt you have a right to be riding a high horse.

 

[Da_Funk]

I was once very racist against a group of Indian guys from Britain. They made inappropriate comments to a female friend of mine and I basically said they're not really British, they were just colonized. It wasn't about truth at that point obviously, but about insulting them.

Hahahaha.

But I don't want to marry a black girl. We'd end up paying for both the reception and the wedding. And they'll stay in my house and eat all my food and shit.

Like I said, I'm not at the crossroad where marriage is even on my mind. Shit can change. But the prospect of having to deal with Islamic values in the household is not a good one.

If she doesn't believe in Islam, then it's another story. I'm not outlawing alcohol and pork in my house for shit.

Hahaha like a women would even date you let alone marry you. Hahahaha

 

[Flipmo]

It's hard to believe people like this have the possibility of becoming the President of the United States...

I thought it was a slave economy that made America strong?