Islamic Stripper.
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tennis_dog said:
Ok the point is she can "claim" to be whatever she wants, Thats the point us "muslims" are trying to get at here. An the fact that we're tired of these so called muslims deficating on our religeon, she's in the same class as the guys who strap bombs to their chest an chop peoples heads off an claim to be "muslim" no, your far from it, your a wolf in sheeps clothing. As Jurhum i think stated "Muslim Pornstar" is an oxy moron.
I read what she had to say about herself, seems she's really trying to get people to believe that she's doing nothing wrong, if you dont believe your wrong fine, im not gonna judge her but Islam and Porn dont belong in the same sentence. try an see from "our" prospective we have enough assholes already making us look bad. My dear you know your wrong, your not a "muslim" your nothing more then a high priced prostitute, do with your life as you please, I am not the one who will judge you after this life is over, but please stop taking a dump on those of us who truly are muslim!
Kareem said:
Did you just compare an adult entertainment actress to murderous terrorists?
Tolerance is such a beautiful thing.
Duke said:Did you just compare an adult entertainment actress to murderous terrorists?
Tolerance is such a beautiful thing.
And using your minds eye is such a beautiful thing
the comparisson if you really need me to break it down for you is neither the "murrderous terrorist" nor the porn star are either muslim as they claim to be, get it now?
muslims always do that....if someone from their religion does something that shames them, they shun them...they call them "heretics"....how do we know they arent being sacrificed...take one for the team...cause world chaos, then we just say allah doesnt love you??? if you can do that to the jews in israel by planting bombs on your chests, why not here??
i was watching the news and they said that there have been cases of terrorists planting bombs on their children...when they go through security, the guard wouldn't believe that a child was equipped and that there was some mistake, and just let the child through..mission accomplished, eh?
i also read in a newsweek that only 6% of cargo was scanned? hahaha, what makes you think that a United Arab emirates wont fly into the sears tower...does it have to american airlines like....american airlines and united? just keep that in mind when the next terror alert comes out....which should be soon....
also, keep in mind osama had many wives and 50+ children....saddam hussein had pornographic pictures and statues all over his palaces...surely these were muslim women modeling
according to a recent poll, the vast majority of the middle east, as well as the majority of pakistan was IN FAVOR of the taliban...al qaeda, and the attacks on the West....so that makes up the majority of the muslim population, doesnt it??? and dont tell me those people dont matter....cuz christianity has protestants and catholics and orthodox....none considers the other two "untrue" or that they "claim to be christian"......so there's something odd when you say that..
now keep in mind, im not typing this with the thoughts that all muslims are terrorists....i mean, all of them in america are scared shitless...some even deny their religion....so i guess if there were any muslims in america that felt that what was happening to america was right, im sure they're rather conservative now about their views...
i was watching the news and they said that there have been cases of terrorists planting bombs on their children...when they go through security, the guard wouldn't believe that a child was equipped and that there was some mistake, and just let the child through..mission accomplished, eh?
i also read in a newsweek that only 6% of cargo was scanned? hahaha, what makes you think that a United Arab emirates wont fly into the sears tower...does it have to american airlines like....american airlines and united? just keep that in mind when the next terror alert comes out....which should be soon....
also, keep in mind osama had many wives and 50+ children....saddam hussein had pornographic pictures and statues all over his palaces...surely these were muslim women modeling
according to a recent poll, the vast majority of the middle east, as well as the majority of pakistan was IN FAVOR of the taliban...al qaeda, and the attacks on the West....so that makes up the majority of the muslim population, doesnt it??? and dont tell me those people dont matter....cuz christianity has protestants and catholics and orthodox....none considers the other two "untrue" or that they "claim to be christian"......so there's something odd when you say that..
now keep in mind, im not typing this with the thoughts that all muslims are terrorists....i mean, all of them in america are scared shitless...some even deny their religion....so i guess if there were any muslims in america that felt that what was happening to america was right, im sure they're rather conservative now about their views...
I'll try to explain to you a few things. First of all, Islam has a set of rules and standards to be followed to be considered a Muslim. See, Judiaism states that one can't be a Jew unless his mom is Jewish. That means, one can't just embrace Judiaism out of no where.tennis_dog said:
With Islam, it's not like that, but there are Rules and regulations that a Muslim has to abide by to be considered a Muslim. Some are regarded as major sins and others as minor sins. The major being those that are critical to the belief system. I can't say I am a Muslim and believe in evolution at the same time. That is contridictory to the belief system. As with being a porn star, she can't say she's Muslim and go sell her self as a prostitute. That goes for those that kill in the name of Islam the innocent and say they are Muslims. When Islam explicitly says self defense is the only way of fighting a war. Agression is prohibited period.
And yes Kareem, that was my point. It's illogical to be a porn star and a Muslim at the same time.
Meyer, no worries. I know it wasn't you who titled it.
Some of you Muslims take the piss sometimes. Why does everything have to be so extreme?
Case example - I know a famous girl singer who happens to be Muslim. She's from Norway and her name is Deeyah.
She has acted no different than any other female pop star, there was a video where part of her back was shown, she wasn't nude, she wasn't being controversial, she was just acting like any other girl.
Yet because of this, she receieved numerous DEATH THREATS, so much so that she had to move her entire family from Norway to the UK and proceeded to continue her career here. When she got here, she began working on a new album, and made another music video. In this video she stood up for the rights of female Muslims and spoke out against "Honour Killings" and the opression of females in Islam.
This video was playlisted on a number of channels including the popular British Asian music channel B4U (which incidentally has played a lot of my music videos too)
So get this. The fucking TV channel got death threats and was forced to pull the video.
She's a lovely girl and she shouldn't have to go everywhere with bodyguards and cancel shows because some people who simply happen to be the same religion can't move forward and recognize that this is the fucking 21st century. So many Muslims complain that you are being discriminated against and treated badly by the media, and of course there is truth in that, but the media are simply exagerating slightly. There's no smoke without fire, you are doing it to YOURSELVES.
And I'm speaking from personal experience, not only have I seen what they are doing to Deeyah, I've been in Finsbury Park and heard the extremists there condoning murder, terrorism and destruction of the Western World. Do I think every Muslim is like this? Of course not, I'm not that narrow minded. But theres enough like that for it to be a seriois problem.
Well anyway, Deeyah's doing really well now and has been working with T-Boz and Bonecrusher so she will have the last laugh.
Case example - I know a famous girl singer who happens to be Muslim. She's from Norway and her name is Deeyah.
She has acted no different than any other female pop star, there was a video where part of her back was shown, she wasn't nude, she wasn't being controversial, she was just acting like any other girl.
Yet because of this, she receieved numerous DEATH THREATS, so much so that she had to move her entire family from Norway to the UK and proceeded to continue her career here. When she got here, she began working on a new album, and made another music video. In this video she stood up for the rights of female Muslims and spoke out against "Honour Killings" and the opression of females in Islam.
This video was playlisted on a number of channels including the popular British Asian music channel B4U (which incidentally has played a lot of my music videos too)
So get this. The fucking TV channel got death threats and was forced to pull the video.
She's a lovely girl and she shouldn't have to go everywhere with bodyguards and cancel shows because some people who simply happen to be the same religion can't move forward and recognize that this is the fucking 21st century. So many Muslims complain that you are being discriminated against and treated badly by the media, and of course there is truth in that, but the media are simply exagerating slightly. There's no smoke without fire, you are doing it to YOURSELVES.
And I'm speaking from personal experience, not only have I seen what they are doing to Deeyah, I've been in Finsbury Park and heard the extremists there condoning murder, terrorism and destruction of the Western World. Do I think every Muslim is like this? Of course not, I'm not that narrow minded. But theres enough like that for it to be a seriois problem.
Well anyway, Deeyah's doing really well now and has been working with T-Boz and Bonecrusher so she will have the last laugh.
Muslim pornstar and muslim madonna are both oxymorons. That's how it is, why do you have to be so forceful and extremist trying to shove it down our necks that we have to accept it. They can (and are) doing whatever they want to do, but don't link the actions to Islam.
islam is built upon ideals, that are never changing, it doesn't matter what people in the world do. the islamic ideals don't change and never will. And tennis dog, you are a racist and predjudice fuck against muslims anyway. Maybe you would be better suited on www.hinduunity.org. Where you can get kicks talking foul-mouthed against muslims and Pakistanis all day long!
islam is built upon ideals, that are never changing, it doesn't matter what people in the world do. the islamic ideals don't change and never will. And tennis dog, you are a racist and predjudice fuck against muslims anyway. Maybe you would be better suited on www.hinduunity.org. Where you can get kicks talking foul-mouthed against muslims and Pakistanis all day long!
tennis_dog said:
yes all muslims are terrorists. islam is founded on evil. wrong
theyre all just pissed off because its so fucking hot in the middle east. like goddamn it gets to 40 degrees celsius around there! cut them some slack. they just rejoice when a suicide bomber blows himself up because it makes a little breeze that relieves them from that damned heat
not really ken said:
Did Deeyah give herself the nickname "Muslim Madonna"? No, the media did. So that point is completely irrelevant. Are you saying Muslim girls can't be popstars? Why not? Is it not possible for a Muslim girl to speak her mind and still be proud of her faith? I believe it is and I believe Deeyah has done nothing wrong. If anything, Muslims should be proud of her for not conforming to ancient dusty traditions that don't belong in the 21st century.
i really couldnt tell whether that dude was mocking me by putting that hinduunity.org site on there..... whatever the case, i looked at it.... maybe you should too... see what muslims do to hindus, and then call it "making fun of pakis and muslims for kicks"... muslims have been pissing hindus of for centuries....and vice versa.... there's no stopping it...so bringing our religion into it, really isnt the point...the point is that someone labeled a muslim a girl a muslim, and now muslims are trying to shun them...it's not about how hindus kick shit on muslims too... also, let me remind you real quick, that hindu values and practices are being used by everyone....yoga...meditation...its all hindu/buddhism values...but guess what?? no one has to convert to do that...no one has to stop eating beef in order to practice yoga...you just do...
also, why are muslims so ardent on trying to convert christians??? why have i heard stories of muslims cornering christians and then threatening to kill them if they dont convert??? i remember reading somethig about this happeneing in england.... my dad told me too.... these arent "real" muslims either???
mo one responded to my thing about majority of muslims supporting terrorists...tell me if im wrong
also, why are muslims so ardent on trying to convert christians??? why have i heard stories of muslims cornering christians and then threatening to kill them if they dont convert??? i remember reading somethig about this happeneing in england.... my dad told me too.... these arent "real" muslims either???
mo one responded to my thing about majority of muslims supporting terrorists...tell me if im wrong
Kareem said:And using your minds eye is such a beautiful thing
the comparisson if you really need me to break it down for you is neither the "murrderous terrorist" nor the porn star are either muslim as they claim to be, get it now?
Of course I understood. And you did make said comparison. You laid the link between a porn actress and terrorists that both claim to be muslim and as such are ruining your faith. In your words, anyway. Now let me ask you this, do you believe both are giving your faith a bad name in equal measure? As a healthy, objective, atheisitic Westerner I'd say the terrorists slitting people's throats, blowing up aircraft all in the name of Islam is giving Islam a lot more problems than 1 porn actress minding her own goddamn business.
Damn, if we review your entire life there'd be enough to make you a sinner and a non-muslim as well. I'm going to get pissed here for a second and I'm going to tell you to take those Muslim ideals and shove 'em very far up your backside. Religion is a personal thing, it's guidelines are not determined by wankers on a messageboard, nor by an old fairy tale book. No, her religion is between her and God, and it's none of your goddamn business.
You whine that she's giving your religion a bad name, but let me tell you something. From everyone I explained this situation to, they all gave me the same answer. You, sir, are the people that give your religion a bad name. Intolerance, blinded views, a refusal to accept people that are different than you. This constant backturning to the 21st century, which is sadly enough prevalant in the muslim community, that is what causing worldwide resentment against Islam.
Not an unknown porn star doing her thing.
And now I'm calm again.
Duke said:
Good im glad your calm, you should be as this is nothing more then a debate over the internet at that, no need to get heated.Now I dont believe any of us were being intolerate or giving a blind view, simply put theres no such thing as an "Islamic Pornstar" its redundent, like saying well "im a satanist christain". I've stated its her life do with it as you please but leave Islam out of it an try to make it look like what your doing is acceptable by our beliefs, Cause its not. She coulda said "I was rasied Muslim but I no longer follow it" thats all. Im not condoning nor condeming her just leave our faith out of it.
Tennis_dog what are you smoking? A majority of muslims do not support terrorism thats ridiculous, stop watching CNN an Fox please.Out of a following of over 1 billion believers in Islam, maybe 1% of those think like Osama Bin Laden.Cornering Christians and making them convert at knife point? Where you getting your info? ihatemuslims.com? Seriously step away from the tv. Your heads are being filled with the same propaganda that was used in the 40's against the Japaneese and again in the 50's an 60's against the African Americans, having you believe we are sub human and all evil, take the actions of a few an mass market it as thats how all of us are. Take it for what its worth, if you'd really like to debate this more make a topic in WOW
Kareem said:
Aye, but you're not the one determining who's *really* a muslim and who's not, innit? That's exactly my point.
Duke said:
Duke, you are a legend. You hit the nail right on the head with that post and I couldn't have said it better myself. Many Muslims have no concept of tolerance and have this holier than thou attitude. I feel that Deeyah and Sahara Knite are far better representatives of Islam than all the people that are quick to put them down and claim that "they aren't real muslims".
Kareem said:
Sorry Kareem, but that doesnt make sense to me. What gives you the right to judge who is a real Muslim and who isn't? From that attitude I'd actually prefer to hear what Sahara has to say about her faith.
She was given that nickname and I said it was an oxymoron. it doesn't matter who gave it to her. the fact that she was given it shows that there must be something about her that has warranted her such a moniker. You act as if girls are being limited only, no, it is against the ideals of Islam for men and women to be popstars. That leaves plenty of room for both sexes to be poets, writers and express themselves using these method and speak their minds using these vehicles. there are loads of female writers expressing themselves using modest methods. though nobody limits or wants to limit the extent to which she takes her shamelesness. the only ONLY thing that anyone objected to in this thread was for these artists to link their activities to islam as a postive. It is only in your so called fanstastic 21st century where expressing yourself means getting half naked and jumping around like a performing monkey. And believe it or not, muslims aren't bothered with Britney spears etc. it's just when you see people like Deeyah claiming that they are proud of their faith some muslims do tend to be vocal against that and point out the obvious hypocrisy. That's all we didMilitant said:
The only thing pointed out was the hypocrisy of a 'muslim pornstar' and a 'muslim madonna'.Duke said:
boo fucking hoo! Worldwide resentment against Islam has been prevalent since even before the message was proclaimed in public! We don't give a fuck
not really ken said:
Yes, maybe that nickname is an oxymoron, only because people want to compare her to some of the very controversial things Madonna said and did in the 1980's.
Fact is though, Deeyah has done none of that. I wouldn't compare her to Madonna, that's the media trying to be funny and clever and failing miserably. So Muslims can't be entertainers? What about Napoleon (outlawz)?
Deeyah doesnt get naked and jump around. Have you seen any of her videos? She is simply a young girl who loves music and wants to express herself. And I don't see any problem with that.
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