Is it bad 2 constantly turn off ur computer?

[Cooper]

There is a reason every major studio runs Macs.

There's a reason 90% of home users & businesses don't....

 

[Rukas]

Mac isn't for everybody. But I'm not 90% of users and businesses and neither is Limn. When it comes to recording music, which his computer is for and therefore that is the whole basis for this thread, Mac's can not be beat.

 

[masta247]

Oh btw, OSX is 64 bit. Get your facts straight. Just goes to show how misinformed you are about everything, cant even get that right. Your stats are usually wrong. For example, your 5% is actually 10% Mac userbase worldwide and 20+% in the US..

20+%? I know that Windows 7 already has more than all Mac systems together. I can't find accurate data but not long ago it was slightly above 10%. And still over 80% of all Windows systems installed is XP.

Windows 7 passes Mac OS X in market share race

I agree that Macs are good for professionals. Not that you can't do the same on a PC though.. but if you prefer Mac OSX and don't do things you can't do on a Mac then it's okay I guess. Some programs are optimized for Macs.
However what Mac was good for was graphics. These days when Adobe creates their suite for PC and then only ports it to Mac most studios don't have a preference for Mac anymore. No doubt Jobs is pissed.

 

[Tha_Wood]

see's tony yayo article, leaves thread.

 

[Casey]

When it comes to recording music, which his computer is for and therefore that is the whole basis for this thread, Mac's can not be beat.

I could have sworn you said your Pro Tools rig was on a PC.

Anyway - evidence to support this statement? PC's are just as capable as Macs for recording music.

In fact, for certain genres of music (Electronica springs to mind) PC's are better due to a wider variety of available software, VSTi's and plugins. When I was playing in Germany (the home of electronic music), most of the house/trance/electro producers I saw were using PC's. Some of the software they were using just isn't available for Mac.

 

[Flipmo]

Yup. There are some that use Macs .. Tiesto comes to mind, but from what I've seen they generally use supercharged PCs. David Morales who owns Stereo Afterhours here uses a custom built Toshiba Satellite (might have been a different model, but looked similar) during his shows. For the longest time he wasn't a digital DJ though.

SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYESSS *Alabama accent*

 

[Bigg Limn]

Limn if you spend 9% more on a new system, I will cut off your balls.

*This message was brought to you by your friendly neighborhood PC user*

lmao...point noted

 

[Casey]

Yup. There are some that use Macs .. Tiesto comes to mind, but from what I've seen they generally use supercharged PCs. David Morales who owns Stereo Afterhours here uses a custom built Toshiba Satellite (might have been a different model, but looked similar) during his shows. For the longest time he wasn't a digital DJ though.

SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYESSS *Alabama accent*

LMFAO at Alabama accents. Have you seen "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story"? THE WRONG KID DIED!! lol

David Morales is sick tho. Him, Hani, Roger Sanchez, Tony Moran and Frankie Knuckles were some of the first dance music producers I was exposed to, through the remixes they all did for MJ. When "HIStory" came out in '95 and then "Blood On The Dance Floor" in '97, I would buy all the CD singles as they came out as well as some of the vinyls and there'd always be loads of dance remixes of the songs by those guys and some others.

 

[Flipmo]

LOL @ The Dewey Cox story. I saw it for the first time a couple of months ago. I thought it would be shit, but I was gladly surprised.

Yah, Roger Sanchez is a great. He's still going hard, tours (He's like an honorary DJ at Ibiza's Pacha. He can walk in, whenever he wants, and they'll set him up without having to reserve a show lol) and releases a lot of material. It's not uncommon to see a track of his always popping out on Buuren's weekly State of trance. Morales has calmed down a bit though, he had a club in Toronto, but it closed, so he generally DJs here, but people still adore him. Best mixed compilation of his; Ministry of Sound: Sessions Seven (1997) :thumb:

 

[Prize Gotti]

Rukas: Casey is right bout the £400 laptop.

Casey: Windows stole everything from Mac, the whole invention of Windows was stolen from Apple when Bill Gates developed the Mac OS.

Just wanna point out neither Apple or Microsoft created the GUI OS. Xerox, the paper that make photocopiers, printers and paper, created it, as did they also created the Mouse. They sold everything to Apple and then BG was hired by Apple to develop the software from Xerox, and at the same time stole it and made Windows.

 

[Casey]

Casey: Windows stole everything from Mac, the whole invention of Windows was stolen from Apple

You're right about this in one way and wrong in another.

We're specifically talking about Mac OSX here, and OSX is not based on the original Apple operating system - everything up to OS9 was, but OSX is based on the software that Steve Jobs created at NeXT (the company he started after he was fired from Apple).

Since that point, Apple have taken many ideas from Microsoft, including:

The Finder Sidebar (first appeared in XP in 2001, showed up two years later on Mac OSX 10.3 Panther)

The Path Bar

Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard added an optional Path bar at the bottom of folder windows to display the path of any selected file or folder. Double-clicking a folder in the path opens that folder. Drag (or Option-drag) a file to move or copy it to one of the folders in the path. This feature first appeared as the Address bar in Windows Vista, which began appearing nearly a year before Leopard shipped. The Windows version has a bit more functionality, in that you can click an arrow next to a folder in a path to get to anything inside it.

Back and Forward buttons (like those in Web Browsers) in Folder systems - first appeared in Win2000, showed up later in OSX 10.2 Jaguar

Remote Desktop Connection - first showed up in XP, later showed up in OSX 10.5 Leopard. Microsoft even created a Mac version of RDC for free, before Apple wrote their own version.

Control Panel/System Preferences:

Before Mac OS X, Mac system settings were found in a set of separate files called control panels. Microsoft took the name, but put all the settings in one convenient place. For Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah, Apple stole Microsoft's idea and called it System Preferences. Unlike the Windows Control Panel, the Mac's System Preferences doesn't open additional windows, and it tends to have a simpler user interface.

Alt-Tab shortcut to switch between running programs:

Since 1990's Windows 3, Alt-Tab has enabled users to easily switch between running applications. Apple added the feature using Command-Tab in Mac OS X 10.3 Panther in 2003. In recent versions, the command brings up a horizontal menu of icons. Apple, however, added functionality -- the ability to navigate the menu with the Command and arrow keys that Microsoft copied and added to Vista. Windows Vista also added previews of the windows themselves with the Flip 3D feature in the Aero theme.

Realistically both companies have ripped off each other in lots of different ways though, there's no denying that.

Xerox definitely got fucked though, but Jobs claim that Windows directly ripped off Apple's software is dubious, because there's no evidence to substantiate that Bill was aware of what Apple were doing (he was never hired by them from what I can see). Let's not forget that Apple lost their infringement lawsuit against Microsoft.

The GUI had its roots in the 1950s but was not developed until the 1970s when a group at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) developed the Alto, a GUI-based computer. The Alto was the size of a large desk, and Xerox believed it unmarketable. Jobs took a tour of PARC in 1979, and saw the future of personal computing in the Alto. Although much of the Interface of both the Lisa and the Mac was based (at least intellectually) heavily on the work done at PARC, and many of the engineers there later left to join Apple, much of the Mac OS was written before Job's visit to PARC. When Jobs accused Bill Gates of Microsoft of stealing the GUI from Apple and using it in Windows 1.0, Gates fired back:

No, Steve, I think its more like we both have a rich neighbor named Xerox, and you broke in to steal the TV set, and you found out I'd been there first, and you said. "Hey that's no fair! I wanted to steal the TV set!

The fact that both Apple and Microsoft had gotten the idea of the GUI from Xerox put a major dent in Apple's lawsuit against Microsoft over the GUI several years later. Although much of The Mac OS is original, it was similar enough to the old Alto GUI to make a "look and feel" suit against Microsoft dubious.

 

[masta247]

Let's be fair here - all operating systems "steal" from each other. Whenever someone invents something useful or nice others want to have it too. Linux users bitch how much Apple and Microsoft steal from their "open" ideas to make money off.

 

[Prize Gotti]

Funny thing is, Microsoft owns part of Apple and Apple owns part of Microsoft, so no matter how many Apple Vs Microsoft people have, both companies are laughing to the bank.

 

[Casey]

For sure. There's a great video on YouTube, about an hour or so long, where Bill Gates and Steve Jobs give a joint interview at a tech conference in '07. You get a good idea of the strange relationship between the two companies by watching it.

 

[Bigg Limn]

uhh this thing says itll permanently delete files from my system when I click "Run Cleaner" - is it gunna let me know what be4 it does it? lol

And Im using Spyware Doctor for anti-virus...thats it.

 

[The.Menace]

Let's be fair here - all operating systems "steal" from each other. Whenever someone invents something useful or nice others want to have it too. Linux users bitch how much Apple and Microsoft steal from their "open" ideas to make money off.

True.

 

[Casey]

uhh this thing says itll permanently delete files from my system when I click "Run Cleaner" - is it gunna let me know what be4 it does it? lol

And Im using Spyware Doctor for anti-virus...thats it.

Don't worry. It never deletes anything essential - trust me - I run it on literally a daily basis.

If you click "Analyse" it'll tell you what it's going to delete without deleting it, then you can do "Run Cleaner" to get rid of it. It's just stuff like temporary internet cache files, memory dumps, shit like that.

As for antivirus - use this - http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/

 

[Bigg Limn]

Only thing that worries me is the fact it says its goin thru windows explorer too

 

[Bigg Limn]

lmao it cleared up almost 5gigs worth of temp chit