Duke said:Ah, i disagree my comrade. Schindler's List is based on an actual story. There's not toomuch Hollywoodian BS attached. When Maddox rightly claims it's lame to take the historic sinking of the Titanic, and concoct some silly love scheme around it to make it a boo-boo grab-yer-Kleenex'-flick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schindler's_ListHowever, the Holocaust historian David M. Crowe has questioned in a new book the authenticity of the facts portrayed in the movie. "Schindler had nothing to do with the list," the author writes in the new biography of the German businessman. Oskar Schindler was in jail for bribing the SS commander Amon Göth when the famous list was being drawn up and had little involvement in it, according to a New York Times report. From the total of nine lists, four were drawn up primarily by Marcel Goldberg, a corrupt Jewish assistant to the SS officer in charge of transporting Jews, Crowe wrote.
saltynuts said:Ok, one man's trash is another man's treasure. The silly love scheme was a great story in my opinion. But since we're on the topic-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schindler%27s_List
It's just an accusation from what I can tell but it's a pretty big one.
S O F I S T I K said:If you watched 3+ hours of Titanic and only got a sappy, silly, love story out of it...then that's just unfortunate, really unfortunate.
As for Schindler's list, it's an excelent movie, but that's where it ends. Any historian would prefer a movie such as "Amen", for example, to convey an understanding of the Holocaust.
saltynuts said:Let me put it this way------- Schindler's List is one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's shot in black&white and is 195 minnutes long- sooooo boring. We all know what happens- Jews get killed.
RaDeK said:titanic is a simple love story, and that's where it ends.
schindler's list on the other hand, is one of the greatest films ever made, everything from the production to the acting is near perfect.
this is one of the stupidest things i've ever read on this forum
saltynuts said:waw?
S O F I S T I K said:You don't know how to watch movies. You can go to school to learn, though.
S O F I S T I K said:^Visual learning, hello? What do you prefer, history books? Night by Elie Wiesel? lol
But, yes, way to single out that part of the post, dookey.![]()
If you watched 3+ hours of Titanic and only got a sappy, silly, love story out of it...then that's just unfortunate, really unfortunate.
RaDeK said:waw?
since you know how to watch movies, and i don't, can you teach me how to properly watch them?
S O F I S T I K said:The movie touches on plenty things. It paints a good picture of the society of 1900, and the clash between nouveau riche and the old rich. For example, the fat lady is laughed at and not respected by the other women, because she doesn't have a good last name, just a husband that struck gold in the west. Then, the director touches on how money ruled everything, and was more significant than safety. One of the important, rich guys basically forced the ship captain to go at full speed even though it was not a good idea, and he ignored the iceberg warnings because they wanted to get to America a day early, because of publicity. Deadly mistake, I might add. The movie portrayed a really good sense of survival of the fittest and how people's true colors come out when their life is at stake. For example, one of the crewmen didn't want want to open the gate for Jack and Rose towards the end of the movie, because he was just fending for himself. Then, there's also Cal, who found a little girl crying by the side and swooped her up and posed her as his daughter, just to get on the safety boat. But, what I personally liked was how Mr. Andrews, the owner of the boat, one of the key captains, and the musicians acted in the end. The musicians kept playing music even though nobody was listening, and even though they knew the end was coming. They were going to die, doing the thing they love the most. Mr. Andrews didn't want to save himself because he was the key guy in the making of the ship and decided that if the ship is going to go down, so is he. The key captain, towards the end of the movie as well, retreated to the main cabin, where he commandeered the ship, and basically committed suicide. Then, some two rich men refused to wear the life jackets and dressed up in their best clothes, and just sat in the lobby. That's how they wanted to go out.
I mean, there's so many great things in the movie aside from the whole Jack and Rose fiasco. It's too bad you guys can't see it. Also, love is one of the best and frequently used universal themes in movies, yet you guys knock it for being a love story? Come on, get past your machoism. Not to mention that Titanic is the most popular motion picture of all time.
The movie is fictional and its purpose was never to portray the truth about what happened with Titanic, so you can't knock it for that.
_carmi said:but all those reflections on money and the 1900s are only the background of that love story between rose and jack. if there would have not been a love story, the movie would have been boring. and even with the love story, the movie is too long with some fullfilling scenes that were not needed. they didnt make that movie to show how the society was back then, they made the movie to show a poor artist and a girl from a rich family that wants her to marry that rich guy because they are broke. the boy and girl fall in love and the guy dies in the cold water while the girl survives. theres nothing else to add. all the other stuff you mentionned is background. its basically a sort of romeo and juliet but instead of a family vs another family its rich vs poor and only the guy dies at the end.