Ok, I started this thread here as nobody reads 2pacboard these days, and the situation IMO is rather hip-hop-wise than 2pac or Outlaw-wise and this subject is really of a big matter.
Before I start - I know that Outlawz suck and they got their fame just because of 2pac.. BUT.. I want to debate the case of Hussein Fatal as individual rapper, I'm not a 2pac/Outlawz groupie or anything, I won't even speak about Fatal as 2pac's affiliate, I'll write about him as individual artist.
I won't mention how his verse on Dumpin was the best verse of 2006 (which it really was imho), I won't say how great he was on latest new mixx klazzics vol.2 again.
I want to classify him in one category where he fits perfectly.
He tries to be a mainstream-like rapper now, bites T.I. etc. but his place is somewhere else, he aims in totally wrong direction, that's the worst thing about him, but back to the subject..
Ladies and gentlemen, when I think of a street rapper/street storyteller I can't fit Tragedy Khadafi or Dr.Dre there, there won't be a place for Sean P, 2pac, Snoop, Steele, Mac Mall or any Wu-tang clan member and just whoever you want to put in here(I won't even mention any of today's mainstream rappers as it would be a big shame for me), also Big L and Biggie - they were great storytellers but still when I listen to their music I don't feel that "plain street" sound. I think only AZ, Mobb Deep and Nas in their greatness (Illmatic for example) can compare.
So back to the point - when I think about that plain street hip-hop..
I picture this: http://www.zshare.net/download/3723989585a864/
or this:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3724158115fad5/
For me literally it's the true essence of hip-hop. It's not that those tracks are extra dope in anything particular but overall that's what I could call the essence of the streets in music.
If only Fatal released more good tracks like this instead of following Outlawz and trying to be so mainstream, if he took his time to do some good music individually from his heart he could be really really respected. Especially considering this dude has got streets in his heart, with his private life etc.
It's easy to sense in his tracks.
What is your opinion?
I don't want any 2pac related or 2pac groupie replies like:
"Fatal rocks" etc. I want to know if I'm at least a bit right.
I would like to know Linx opinion as it'll be the closest to truth to me. And again I'm not saying Fatal's better or anything, I mean that he's got a huge potential to make good street-flavored music and be one of the greatest in it, but he went totally wrong way.
To me songs posted above define true street hip-hop.
I've been listening to Fatal for few straight days and compared him to other artist I mentioned above to be sure whether I exaggerated my opinion or not and I'm nearly sure I'm right - He's got something in him, a talent to make that street music, he gives those songs really good sound, something nobody else has imo. Unfortunately most of his songs are wack as he can't keep it constant and records some mainstream wannabees, but when he records a normal street-flavored track it's really dope.
Before I start - I know that Outlawz suck and they got their fame just because of 2pac.. BUT.. I want to debate the case of Hussein Fatal as individual rapper, I'm not a 2pac/Outlawz groupie or anything, I won't even speak about Fatal as 2pac's affiliate, I'll write about him as individual artist.
I won't mention how his verse on Dumpin was the best verse of 2006 (which it really was imho), I won't say how great he was on latest new mixx klazzics vol.2 again.
I want to classify him in one category where he fits perfectly.
He tries to be a mainstream-like rapper now, bites T.I. etc. but his place is somewhere else, he aims in totally wrong direction, that's the worst thing about him, but back to the subject..
Ladies and gentlemen, when I think of a street rapper/street storyteller I can't fit Tragedy Khadafi or Dr.Dre there, there won't be a place for Sean P, 2pac, Snoop, Steele, Mac Mall or any Wu-tang clan member and just whoever you want to put in here(I won't even mention any of today's mainstream rappers as it would be a big shame for me), also Big L and Biggie - they were great storytellers but still when I listen to their music I don't feel that "plain street" sound. I think only AZ, Mobb Deep and Nas in their greatness (Illmatic for example) can compare.
So back to the point - when I think about that plain street hip-hop..
I picture this: http://www.zshare.net/download/3723989585a864/
or this:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3724158115fad5/
For me literally it's the true essence of hip-hop. It's not that those tracks are extra dope in anything particular but overall that's what I could call the essence of the streets in music.
If only Fatal released more good tracks like this instead of following Outlawz and trying to be so mainstream, if he took his time to do some good music individually from his heart he could be really really respected. Especially considering this dude has got streets in his heart, with his private life etc.
It's easy to sense in his tracks.
What is your opinion?
I don't want any 2pac related or 2pac groupie replies like:
"Fatal rocks" etc. I want to know if I'm at least a bit right.
I would like to know Linx opinion as it'll be the closest to truth to me. And again I'm not saying Fatal's better or anything, I mean that he's got a huge potential to make good street-flavored music and be one of the greatest in it, but he went totally wrong way.
To me songs posted above define true street hip-hop.
I've been listening to Fatal for few straight days and compared him to other artist I mentioned above to be sure whether I exaggerated my opinion or not and I'm nearly sure I'm right - He's got something in him, a talent to make that street music, he gives those songs really good sound, something nobody else has imo. Unfortunately most of his songs are wack as he can't keep it constant and records some mainstream wannabees, but when he records a normal street-flavored track it's really dope.
