how did bruce lee die?????????????

stefanwzyga said:
The dude must have been around 8 stone, if a 13 stone guy nails him with a big right hand then he's getting knocked the fuck out!!

So Bruce Lee trained in martial arts for almost his entire life (32 years) and you are retarded enough to think that some random 13 stone guy whos never trained a day in his life could just come along and KO Bruce with one fucking shot??

Ignorance and Stupidity.
 
KO said:
So Bruce Lee trained in martial arts for almost his entire life (32 years) and you are retarded enough to think that some random 13 stone guy whos never trained a day in his life could just come along and KO Bruce with one fucking shot??

Ignorance and Stupidity.


You cant train your chin to take a solid shot! Everyone can be knocked out.

So your saying that bruce can beat up every man 13 stone and under? get to fuck! you might belive in all that kung foo crap but i certainly dont!!

Roy jones, sugar ray leonard, tommy hearns, mike tyson, they all trained all there life but still got knocked out.

Bruce lee was only 8 stone , he was only human.

Again your beliving his movies.
 
i think both sides of this current arguements are providing good points of opinions.

refering to Stefan's points about the boxers.-i like too add i don't think anyone has ever been able to knock out JAke La motta though, did anyone ever see the footage of the fight between him and Sugay ray. not the film, but the real fight, i never seen a man take such a beating standing up.

although ive admired Bruce's quotes then his fighting abilitys.
 
stefanwzyga said:
You cant train your chin to take a solid shot! Everyone can be knocked out.

So your saying that bruce can beat up every man 13 stone and under? get to fuck! you might belive in all that kung foo crap but i certainly dont!!

Roy jones, sugar ray leonard, tommy hearns, mike tyson, they all trained all there life but still got knocked out.

Bruce lee was only 8 stone , he was only human.

Again your beliving his movies.

Knocked out by other people who have trained all their lives and have the technique and ability to deliver a punch correctly.

The fact is someone like Bruce Lee would have a higher chance of beating a 13stone person than say you. Martial arts (aside from the commercial, ceremonious shit you get nowadays) aims to close the physical advantage a larger opponent has by giving the smaller guy better technique and knowledge in dealing with certain attacks.

To test your theory of kung fu crap go pick a fight with a competant Kung fu fighter. After you get the shit kicked out of you ponder on the notion that they probably haven't trained to a level anywhere near as that of Bruce Lee. Yes he did a few films but he was a martial artirst first and foremost. People like Lee, Segal, Jackie Chan, Tony Jaa do films to make money - but that doesn't take away from the fact that they can actually fight in real life. They obviously can't take out 20 people with one strike, but they do possess the ability to effectively kick ass.

Some people can fuck you up for jokes, trus
 
TheCat said:
refering to Stefan's points about the boxers.-i like too add i don't think anyone has ever been able to knock out JAke La motta though, did anyone ever see the footage of the fight between him and Sugay ray. not the film, but the real fight, i never seen a man take such a beating standing up.


Im a big fight fan, I've got quite a lot of la mottas fights, the fight your talking about is "The st valentines day massare" All im trying to do is give an example of weight advantage, and for folks to relise that it dont matter who you are! if you get nailed your gonna be hurt, and if just about any 12 or 13 stone or over hits an 8 stone man clean then imo the little guy is getting KO'D!


Yeah when i said kung fu crap i did'nt really mean that.
 
artisticgurl said:
thanks never knew this and wanted too. I saw that Ong-Huk or some shit like that, new martial arts movie. Was really good has no special effects or stunt men which made it that much more enjoyable.

Yeah Ong-Bak was realy good film special those crazy stunts that he did.
 
stefanwzyga said:
Im a big fight fan, I've got quite a lot of la mottas fights, the fight your talking about is "The st valentines day massare" All im trying to do is give an example of weight advantage, and for folks to relise that it dont matter who you are! if you get nailed your gonna be hurt, and if just about any 12 or 13 stone or over hits an 8 stone man clean then imo the little guy is getting KO'D!

I thought St. Valentine's day massacre was Capone's work. :p

And yeah, if a bloke like Tyson would actually get a good swing at Bruce, he'd get knocked out probably. The point is, big ol' lumbering Mikey would have a whole deal of trouble actually hitting Bruce.
 
Illuminattile said:
Prove it.

And don't even think about mentioning Natasha Demkina or anyone doing the same kind of thing.

How can I prove it. You have to be there so you can see it for yourself. Personally, I haven't gone but my friend has.
I have no idea who Natasha Demkina is.
 
Ghetto_Ghost said:
How can I prove it. You have to be there so you can see it for yourself. Personally, I haven't gone but my friend has.

Yeah and what happend?

Il tell ya what probally happend. The person would have told your friend things that happend in her or his past which has probally happend in all our pasts! just like fortune tellers. Shit like you have a brother sister who has been having problems dont ya? yeah well i do actually my sister has just been in a car accident!! your parents are suffering from bad health aint they? yeah my dad has heart problems!:D :complete drivle.
 
Ghetto_Ghost said:
How can I prove it. You have to be there so you can see it for yourself. Personally, I haven't gone but my friend has.
I have no idea who Natasha Demkina is.
Natasha Demkina was one of many who claimed they could reveal someone's medical history just by looking at them/touching them. CSICOP tested her and failed. Derren Brown did the same thing, and explained how he did it.
 
stefanwzyga said:
it dont matter who you are! if you get nailed your gonna be hurt, and if just about any 12 or 13 stone or over hits an 8 stone man clean then imo the little guy is getting KO'D!
.

yeah i understand where your coming from, and i respect your point your trying to get across, am not saying Bruce is was the hardest man in town, but i just like to add weight isnt everything, i do know some guys how are just 9 stone that take a beating like none other becos they been bullied so much by the kids and their own fathers that they take a bottle of their heads and they are still standing there like bloody Michael Myers. Some people i guess are just built for that, i guess their bodies get conditioned to take hits over the years. like kickboxers do when they conditioned their legs.
 
TheCat said:
yeah i understand where your coming from, and i respect your point your trying to get across, am not saying Bruce is was the hardest man in town, but i just like to add weight isnt everything, i do know some guys how are just 9 stone that take a beating like none other becos they been bullied so much by the kids and their own fathers that they take a bottle of their heads and they are still standing there like bloody Michael Myers. Some people i guess are just built for that, i guess their bodies get conditioned to take hits over the years. like kickboxers do when they conditioned their legs.

When a person gets hit, the body always tries to heal itself. But if this process of suffering from hits continues for decades as a fighter, then the body will just repeatedly heal itself to the point where you develop tumours or cancer, and you die.
 
stefan, your points are ridiculous. There have been numerous champions of UFC who were skinny as fuck. But they were beating guys twice as heavy and big as themselves. Those three Brazillian brothers come to mind, i cant remember their names though.
 
not really ken said:
stefan, your points are ridiculous. There have been numerous champions of UFC who were skinny as fuck. But they were beating guys twice as heavy and big as themselves. Those three Brazillian brothers come to mind, i cant remember their names though.

I know some small dudes can whip bigger guys, but in most cases they cant! obviously thats why you have weight divisions.

I dont really watch UFC but they have weight divisions dont they? and if they do why we're some guys fighting guys twice as heavy?

Im sorry man, but i dont see myself getting a whipping from any 8 stone dude on the planet.:D
 
Bruce Lee would have wooped anyone in his weight class! And prbabably anyone in a bigger class! Motherfucker was quick! No one could get within 7 feet of him without getting knocked the fuck out!
 
greezi' said:
Bruce Lee would have wooped anyone in his weight class! And prbabably anyone in a bigger class! Motherfucker was quick! No one could get within 7 feet of him without getting knocked the fuck out!


See i've been trying to find out what competitions that bruce actually entered and won! For all the fanatics in this thread can anyone give me his fight record? Was he fighting full contact? When did he retire from competition? Is there any footage of him fighting in competitions?

Another thing is, if bruce never made any movies we would'nt even be having this conversation! cuz he would have just been some other unknown kung fu dude.
 
there were no official competitions in the 70s where fight records were kept. There were no UFC or Pride Fighting Championships, there were only private competitions between schools. Bruce was in no school so he was in no competitions.

What I know is that he would fight full contact, in the Tao of Jeet Kun Do it shows techniques to fight and survive in any way possible, eye gouges, throat punches, crotch kicks and strikes to other soft spots would be used. I don't see WHY he would create Jeet Kun Do ,which was actually created when Bruce wanted to refine his fighting technique, to just use in movies. Why refine a punch to put more power into it when he wouldn't be punching people for real in movies?

If Gracie and other UFC/Pride fighters weren't on PPV or on TV they would just be unknown kung fu dudes too.
 
Glockmatic said:
there were no official competitions in the 70s where fight records were kept. There were no UFC or Pride Fighting Championships, there were only private competitions between schools. Bruce was in no school so he was in no competitions.

There must be some records of the full contact fights he had!

If bruce was in no competitions, where is the proof that he was a real life tough guy? I mean that dude gracie has proved it over the years in full contact fights! did bruce? I aint saying he never, im just asking a question.
 
stefanwzyga said:
There must be some records of the full contact fights he had!

If bruce was in no competitions, where is the proof that he was a real life tough guy? I mean that dude gracie has proved it over the years in full contact fights! did bruce? I aint saying he never, im just asking a question.

It's all in wittnesses alive. There is no footage of actual fights because there were no cameras when he was approached. Watch "The Curse of the Dragon" where it talks about it. This documentary is excellent.
 

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