Global Warming.
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^Just because you don't like Al Gore, it doesn't mean global warming is not a threat.
i dont like al gore because he says things like "the science is in" when there are many leading scientist that do not agree with his man made global warming charges.
i dont like al gore because he says "the debate is over" when he never had a debate on it to begin with
i dont like al gore because many of the people he used in his slide show have brought lawsuits against him to get removed or because him and the people that made his movie cherry picked information to fit their cause. many of those people in his movie also made claims in their research they submitted that to al gore that went against much of the "man made global warming" hype. but you didn't see that put in his slide show did you?
all the far left global warming alarmist that want to scare the public are very much like some far left loonies from 30 years ago that said we are all going to freeze to death in another coming ice age due to global cooling....but we all know how that panned out
but really, i do believe that the earth is going through a natural cylce and sure man probably has helped to some degree but not as to the extent that many people want to scare us into believing. afterall while some places on earth are seeing record high temps other places are seeing snow for the first time in decades. whomp whomp whoooommp
in the end, if they cant predict the weather 7 days ahead, why the fuck should i believe that they can predict it decades from now?
oh and why did the hurricane seasons as predicted never happen? why were they downgraded? because of cooler temps in the gulf? lol
How narrow minded is that. 30 years are nothing for a climate change, nothing - that it didn't happen the past years doesn't mean we are 'safe' what so ever.
Yes. that is the problem. People just don't believe it. So let's live the way we do but IF IT HAPPENS DON'T complain but die silently.
that is sad cause it just shows that u didn't understand the problems of the climate change. I don't blame u puff since too many don't understand it but well, it's not only a lil snow here and there, believe me that.
you missed the point. i was comparing the global cooling alarmist from 30 years ago to the global warming alarmist of today
i think people don't believe the man made global warming but they do believe the earth is going through a cylce. there is no positive proof that man is the main factor in global warming. while there are scientists leading the charge on man made global warming there are scientists that are not and saying there is proof against it. many on both sides are in the pockets or people that are right and left
more dangerous i meant. i think i actually want to write bigger but whatever.
and i think the earth is going through a natural cycle but that we accelerate the cycles.
When it's too hot outside, it's called global warming.
when's it's too cold/rainy, it's called climate change.
we had the worst floods in england that there has been for decades. loadsa people died. it didn't affect where I live, but where one of my mates lives it was totally fucked.
Wikipedia has the full story, but here's a few point I culled from the article.
/\ Those are main roads in Tewkesbury during the worst of the floods. It's not a small town by any means, it's a medium sized city and these roads were basically the main route to get in and out of the city.
And that's an actual main motorway (freeway)
/\ That's the actual road my dad has to take to get to work. He has to go down this road from where he lives before he gets on the freeway.
It seems that weather is getting more extreme all over the world. Pretty crazy. Makes you wonder what it's going to be like 20 years from now?
when's it's too cold/rainy, it's called climate change.
we had the worst floods in england that there has been for decades. loadsa people died. it didn't affect where I live, but where one of my mates lives it was totally fucked.
Wikipedia has the full story, but here's a few point I culled from the article.
- I'd say that's pretty over the top and insensitive, to be honest. It was bad and yeah it sucked that loads of people died and lost their houses but it wasn't that bad compared to Katrina.
- damn.
/\ Those are main roads in Tewkesbury during the worst of the floods. It's not a small town by any means, it's a medium sized city and these roads were basically the main route to get in and out of the city.
And that's an actual main motorway (freeway)
/\ That's the actual road my dad has to take to get to work. He has to go down this road from where he lives before he gets on the freeway.
It seems that weather is getting more extreme all over the world. Pretty crazy. Makes you wonder what it's going to be like 20 years from now?
From what i understand and know is that the scientists believing in mankind being the main problem, far outweights the number of scientists who dont think so.
Ive seen a documentary on tv a couple of months ago which was pro natural cycle. I think this documentary is well known. After that there was a discussion and the people explained why this documentary is shit, basically. And to me, the reasons they mentioned were good.
WHO TOLD U THAT? I mean, yes I agree, there are some scientists that say the world is going through a normal natural cylce.... but almost every scientist agrees that the man played and plays his role...... and the majority of scientist actually believes that it's men made change we gotta expect.
Who told u there are no proofs?
Let's see what for example the IPCC says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change)
- Warming of the climate system is unequivocal.
- Most of (>50% of) the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely (confidence level >90%) due to the observed increase in anthropogenic (human) greenhouse gas concentrations.
- Hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries" even if greenhouse gas levels are stabilized[16], although the likely amount of temperature and sea level rise varies greatly depending on the fossil intensity of human activity during the next century
- The probability that this is caused by natural climatic processes alone is less than 5%.
etc etc. I don't want to go back and forth, read it for yourself if u care. Anyway. How can u say that only a some extremist says there's gonna be a climate change if that is what the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) says....?
What kind of proof do u want? If the climate really changed and 80% of the people died or so, would that be proof enough? Before that happens it's all just lies and natural?
I think it's so funny, if it comes to climate people don't believe the experts for some reasons.....when they claimed that Iraq has WMD the people weren't quite as critical.
peace
earth has always been through cycles. its normal for people to think that the cycles are the reason for global warming. i believe that we are causing an acceleration of the cycles and that is why we will see dramatic climate changes.
one cannot deny the role mankind played in this.
one cannot deny the role mankind played in this.
that doesn't mean anything, that doesn't even prove anything. there are reasons and people explaining why al gore's slide show is shit. it still doesn't prove anythig.
i know which documentary you are talking about and i have seen the people speaking out against it and what they have to say. but there are people that are leading scientsts in my country and in others that have spoken out against the man made global warming charge, and they aren't in that video. many of them want to have debates on the issue while others that don't want to have debates on the issue because they think the debate is over, case closed.
ask yourself, what kind of scientist does not want to have a debate on issues like these? what kind of scientist calls for people that don't agree with them to have their licenses removed and to be shut up so nobody can hear their opnions?
Doesn't global warming cause extreme weather, isn't that why every season is getting more extreme. I'm not looking forward to winter at all. Being snowed in for 3 weeks last year was bad, I can deal with the heat but fuck having everything shut down.
what makes you think someone had to tell me this? any new article that comes out on the issue, from the u.k., europe, to north america i read. i have based my opinions on the matter from many different articles i have read from many different media outlets that lean left and right. not wikipedia, which is constantly edited by the same people that hang out on moveon.org and dailykos all day.
you hear about more "experts" on the issue that agree with issue of man mad global warming because the media is 80-90% liberally biased.
Natural cycles in the earth's climate change take thousands upon thousands of years. The recent jumps are so drastic that you have to acknowledge unnatural factors.
Both sides sensationalize their arguments. One side does it to protect financial interests rather than to bring attention to the cause, however.
"Scientists" who say that there is no link between man and the climate change are equivalent to the scientists who said there was no link between cigarettes and lung cancer.
Both sides sensationalize their arguments. One side does it to protect financial interests rather than to bring attention to the cause, however.
"Scientists" who say that there is no link between man and the climate change are equivalent to the scientists who said there was no link between cigarettes and lung cancer.
That's horseshit, unless you consider anything left of Fox News, which was created for the purpose of pushing the Republican agenda, to be liberally biased.
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