George Bush is DONKEY , AN ALCOHOLIC, A CHILDREN KILLER
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Portgas D. Ace said:
the patriot act has nothing to do with censorship. you obviously have no clue as too what you are talking about
if you want info on chavez do your own research, i have enough things i have to research for college and cant be arsed to do something for you which you could easily find using google ( you have the internet in front of you fucking use it), but i will start you off with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez
"Chávez is much-criticized, both in Venezuela and abroad. His most vociferous opponents see him as a dangerous and authoritarian militarist who threatens Venezuelan democracy. They also report that both poverty, unemployment, and corruption figures under Chávez have not seen improvement.[76][77] They also note the 1% drop in Venezuela's per-capita GDP under Chávez. The opposition cites the many public hospitals that lack basic supplies, while others describe Chávez as a demagogue with a personality cult. They also question the payments to poor Venezuelans enrolling in Chávez's social programs, worrying that such dependency corrupts their work ethic and predispose them being pro-Chávez.
Chávez also stands accused of electoral fraud and political repression, including keeping anti-Chávez activists as political prisoners.[78] Others claim that Chávez is not fulfilling promises regarding labor and land reform.[79][80][81] Abroad, Chávez is reported as being a confrontational ideologue[82] who supports and trains terrorists.[83][84] Furthermore, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have documented human rights violations under Chávez.[5][6] Scores of deaths and hundreds of injuries inflicted during both opposition and pro-Chávez demonstrations saw little official investigation. Meanwhile, Chávez faces allegations of both censorship and ill treatment or torture of his opponents. Chávez supporters counter by alleging repression of Chávez supporters and social workers by anti-Chávez mayors; using this claim, the Chávez government is attempting to place local police forces under federal control. Meanwhile, relatives of victims who were killed in the April 11, 2002 clashes filed a case against Chávez and others at the International Criminal Court, stating that Chávez committed crimes against humanity. A final decision is pending."
Just like the US, just like the US.
P.S: I don't want to sound like a communist here but I just thinks it's wreid for the US to blame ANYONE in the world right now for violation human rights etc.
lol he´s da Dictator of the Month: June, 2005
http://www.dictatorofthemonth.com/Chavez/Jun2005ChavezEN.htm
http://www.dictatorofthemonth.com/Chavez/Jun2005ChavezEN.htm
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i think it's funny how threads like this one bring out scores of people who bash america, stating that we have the worst abuse of human rights, freedoms, civil liberties, and censorship... the truth of the matter is that american citizens live each day comfortably and without the threat of violence; whereas other places in the world certainly can't claim that.
look, war is hell, and human rights violations are a part of war, like it or not. whether war is the imposition of sanctions, a military watchdog presence, or a war such as iraq, when you have people fighting you will have atrocity.
in america my phone isn't tapped. i can say whatever i want to say. that donut muncher who pulled me over for going 3 mph over the speed limit isn't going to lock me up and extort my family. and no, the patriot act isn't going to be the backbone of a mass censorship.
do i sound republican? i'm not. i just have an ounce of common sense and know before i speak loudly on an issue.
i wouldn't rather live anywhere else. if americans don't like it here, then you can save your pennies and either promote a change or head on over to europe. likewise, perhaps dead should look to his own politics before throwing salt. then again, that would require his freaky ass to actually leave the house and stop taking voyer pictures of pedestrians.
look, war is hell, and human rights violations are a part of war, like it or not. whether war is the imposition of sanctions, a military watchdog presence, or a war such as iraq, when you have people fighting you will have atrocity.
in america my phone isn't tapped. i can say whatever i want to say. that donut muncher who pulled me over for going 3 mph over the speed limit isn't going to lock me up and extort my family. and no, the patriot act isn't going to be the backbone of a mass censorship.
do i sound republican? i'm not. i just have an ounce of common sense and know before i speak loudly on an issue.
i wouldn't rather live anywhere else. if americans don't like it here, then you can save your pennies and either promote a change or head on over to europe. likewise, perhaps dead should look to his own politics before throwing salt. then again, that would require his freaky ass to actually leave the house and stop taking voyer pictures of pedestrians.
Dante said:
Mostly true, but apparently, you can't say whatever you want to say. "Threaten" the president (with music even if you fancy) and you'll have the secret service on your doorstep.
If they suspect you of terrorism, your phone will be tapped, your family will be followed, you will be under scrutiny. And i don't really trust the entity that's making those calls seeing as a whole bunch of Guantanamo detainees had jack all to do with terrorism, yet were locked up for 3 years.
The US is still a great place to live undoubtedly, but whenever there's a whine about human rights coming from there, the rest of the world tends to wiggle their noses and give each other "one of those" looks.
Just cus it doesnt happen on our soil doesnt mean it isnt happening somewhere else, like some prison facilities we know of. Actually my phone was tapped, only cus my friend was talking to a drug dealer and they thought I might know something but they came and apologized first hand. But whatever, I never received a copy of the warrant yet so I'm still kind of pissed but whatever. The US is doing what they feel they need to do to keep scarin us about terrorism and stop it, big deal. It's not as bad as people are saying but if people don't start saying shit now will they ever.
you're taking what he said completely out of context. i think what he was referring too is when you compare the threat of violence to the citizens of this country as compared to the people who live in, lets say, the ivory coast of africa, who do you think has a better chance of not having to worry about getting shot up, kidnapped, or some other horriable crime happen to them just for walking down the street.Valeoz said:
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PuffnScruff said:
But look at the compartive nature of such countries. The Ivory Coast, as an example, has no doubt a less well structured police/military force, less job opportunities, less wealth within the country, less of a medical and educational foundation, etc and yet the getting shot up, kidnapping and other horrible crimes you mentioned still happen in the US. And these occurances are NOT a rarity, in fact, they could be a way of life in some areas of the US. Also, the Ivory Coast is not threatened by terrorists flying planes into buildings and other terrorist attacks, which at least in some small part are the result of decisions made by Bush and others in the Whitehouse administration.
Duke said:
which would be what???
Him saying "you can't say whatever you want" in a politically correct way?
i missed your point.Duke said:
i'm not saying you cant say what you want. you can. but for every action there is a reaction. whats going to happen if you yell fire in a crowded movie theater.
just because the secret service investigates you for making a death threat against a public official does not mean you are not free to say what you want. your not going to be murdered by the govt for saying it.
you guys make it sound like just because it's their job to investigate death threats against the officials they are protecting that you are not free too say what you want
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