Fame

[Rukas]

Has anyone here, and Militant Im probably looking in your direction more than others, experienced a level of fame in their lives? Whether 15 mins of fame or a career or whatever?

I wouldnt call myself famous yet, but I am certainly known in certain circles -- and its kind of weird. I mean its not good its not bad its just a funny feeling.

On Sunday I gave up my time to attend a childrens charity function an industry friend of mine was a part of to give some donations and even though I was chilling off to the side children started coming up to me asking me for autographs, which I happily gave because to paraphrase ODB; Youngline is for the kids!

So there I am signing napkins and the back of stickers (I must admit it is kind of unsettling to have men OLDER than you ask for autographs, I personally think it is a privilege reserved for children and women, but whatever), and being the conscious person I am I was signing off with "stay in school." One little boys mother, mid 30s, came up to me and told me that her little son unfortunately didnt have a father figure, and that she wanted to thank me for being responsible in what I tell them... She then proceeded to pretty much offer me the job on a fulltime position.... What the? No.

Then later that night we hit a club as a favor to the owners simply to have a good time, and let me tell you, I got fucking pissed, but did not pay for one drink. We were there from midnight to 8 am and a glass never left my hand because everyone was more than whiling to buy us drinks.

One girl was chatting up my homie and I drunkenly made a rather rude remark, to which she _appeared_ to be pissed off, yet 10 seconds later everything was all smiles and she was back on our nuts, we basically kept calling her a hoe to her face for how she was acting and she was loving every second of it.

Dont get me wrong, it's all fun, and will make a great chapter in my autobiography one day, but I just dont get it, yet its only going to increase now -- which is cool, but not, but is, but eh, I dont care, LOL.

Anyone get what Im talking about? I mean I can certainly feel for people like Em now, it must suck, its just unsettling and feels really weird. For those that know what Im talking about, ya all get used to it or is it always weird?

 

[Rahim]

I havn't really experienced a high level of "fame", yet any at all. I have experienced popularity at a few points in my life, but that only lasted for a while.

 

[Jibster]

Nah not really, it's never a route i've really wanted to go down. To be a little bit cheesy i'd have to quote Pac and say, "All I want is money, fuck the fame I'm a simple man".

So i work on gettin money rather than fame. Props for what you and Militant are doing though, you've both obviously got your heads screwed on to be doing what your doing and doing it well.

 

[lii]

im in no way famous but my best friend is known to an extent and i have experienced people turn around and act all friendly when they found out, when before they werent like that

 

[not really ken]

Rukas- it's all fake.

And autographs? Can someone please explain, i've never understood it. Famous people are usually the most morraly inept and corrupt, disgraceful people amonsgt us, I wouldn't listen to what their publiscists have told them to say!

 

[7 Syns]

When love is shown then no doubt it's a good feeling, when people appreciate you for whatever you're doing. It's a cool sensation. But fame isn't for me I think, regardless of how my life scripts itself and if I ever make it on the mic. Whatever it be, fame is cool for those who want it and worked hard for it. For others, like me, I couldn't give 2 damns about it lol.

Like jibster quoted from 'Pac ["All I want is money, fuck the fame I'm a simple man".].

Word... Life.

peace.

 

[Shahin]

Never, but I'd love every second of it if I was you. I don't think there's many things that can top being loved and admired by a lot of people, call me shallow if you want.

 

[Rukas]

Rukas- it's all fake.

Well, yes and no. People sucking up is fake, but people being appreciative of what you do because they actually like it is not.

And autographs? Can someone please explain, i've never understood it. Famous people are usually the most morraly inept and corrupt, disgraceful people amonsgt us, I wouldn't listen to what their publiscists have told them to say!

You're so negative, LOL. Very broad stereotype there, very silly one at that.

 

[Rukas]

When love is shown then no doubt it's a good feeling, when people appreciate you for whatever you're doing. It's a cool sensation. But fame isn't for me I think, regardless of how my life scripts itself and if I ever make it on the mic. Whatever it be, fame is cool for those who want it and worked hard for it. For others, like me, I couldn't give 2 damns about it lol.

Like jibster quoted from 'Pac ["All I want is money, fuck the fame I'm a simple man".].

Word... Life.

peace.

Why do people quote Pac in saying that when he obviously didnt live it? Pac loved the fame, and had plenty of it. He wasnt saying he didnt like it, he was just clarifying that the money is more important.

Regardless, if you are good at what you do, there is no way to avoid fame.

 

[linx]

uh, that seems random. why would little kids go up to you and ask for your autograph?

 

[Rukas]

^^ It was a charity concert for kids so there were some of them around. I tell you what some of them were even breakdancing, it was so cute! Hehe.

 

[not really ken]

uh, that seems random. why would little kids go up to you and ask for your autograph?

Rukas is a local celebrity

It was a very broad sterotype now that I read it again lol, but alot of famous people hate being called role models becasue they know they shouldn't be followed

 

[Sebastian]

Never experienced it and probably never will.

But to some extanet it would be cool i think.

 

[Casey]

Has anyone here, and Militant Im probably looking in your direction more than others, experienced a level of fame in their lives? Whether 15 mins of fame or a career or whatever?

I wouldnt call myself famous yet, but I am certainly known in certain circles -- and its kind of weird. I mean its not good its not bad its just a funny feeling.

On Sunday I gave up my time to attend a childrens charity function an industry friend of mine was a part of to give some donations and even though I was chilling off to the side children started coming up to me asking me for autographs, which I happily gave because to paraphrase ODB; Youngline is for the kids!

So there I am signing napkins and the back of stickers (I must admit it is kind of unsettling to have men OLDER than you ask for autographs, I personally think it is a privilege reserved for children and women, but whatever), and being the conscious person I am I was signing off with "stay in school." One little boys mother, mid 30s, came up to me and told me that her little son unfortunately didnt have a father figure, and that she wanted to thank me for being responsible in what I tell them... She then proceeded to pretty much offer me the job on a fulltime position.... What the? No.

Then later that night we hit a club as a favor to the owners simply to have a good time, and let me tell you, I got fucking pissed, but did not pay for one drink. We were there from midnight to 8 am and a glass never left my hand because everyone was more than whiling to buy us drinks.

One girl was chatting up my homie and I drunkenly made a rather rude remark, to which she _appeared_ to be pissed off, yet 10 seconds later everything was all smiles and she was back on our nuts, we basically kept calling her a hoe to her face for how she was acting and she was loving every second of it.

Dont get me wrong, it's all fun, and will make a great chapter in my autobiography one day, but I just dont get it, yet its only going to increase now -- which is cool, but not, but is, but eh, I dont care, LOL.

Anyone get what Im talking about? I mean I can certainly feel for people like Em now, it must suck, its just unsettling and feels really weird. For those that know what Im talking about, ya all get used to it or is it always weird?

Yeah. I know what you mean and it IS only gonna increase. Obviously I don't know where you're at with your career but judging by your post it sounds like where you are is where I was about 2 years ago when our album 'DesiRock' dropped, songs were getting played a lot on radio and we had started touring a lot.

Kids asking for autographs has always made me smile, I don't know why really, it's just funny to me. For example, these 10 or 15 mallkids kept following us around at this one gig in France and basically tried to get us to sign EVERYTHING they had, like the hoodies and hats that they were wearing, etc. It was hilarious. They kept jumping up and down throwing up the horns and shouting DESI ROCCCKKKKK!!!! lol.

Sometimes it can get tiresome. That's why I try not to go out in my city (Birmingham) too much, because too many people recognize me. I was trying to get something to eat one day when all these girls recognized me and started screaming and yelling my name. I just smiled and waved and walked faster. Obviously I thank God and am very appreciative of what I've been able to do, but sometimes you DO wanna switch off from 'who you are' so to speak, and just be a normal person, and it's not always possible. I always have to make sure that I look good because you never know who you might see or who might see you.

It's also VERY easy to become arrogant and egotistical when you get well known for what you do. Sometimes I catch myself thinking I'm the shit and I have to check myself hard and shut the fuck up, because it doesnt take much for people to think of you as the 'egotistical rockstar' cliche, and that's a trap that you definately do not want to fall into.

Anyway, don't get caught up in the lifestyle as well, you MUST stay grounded and try to live a 'normal' life too, otherwise it's very easy to become uninspired, no matter how much I believe in my ability to write, honestly, there have been a few dark times where it feels like I'll never be able to write another bar. It does happen, and you have to always think about how you can move your music to the next level, in terms of writing. Always look at the bigger picture and you will move faster.

Anyway I could be here ranting and sharing anecdotes all day, so I'll think I'll stop now, and reply again if there's anything else anyone wants to know or if there's something else I think would be good to share.

Peace,
Militant

 

[Lakai]

am I missing something, or did Rukas just quote and answer himself? WTF, though it's militants sig, and story...

anyway, to a small level have I experienced fame, getting invited into studios and having a bunch of [smalltime] rappers thinking you are the shit and wanting to work with you, though it gets annoying having them agree with every damn thing you say just so they can seem "cool" or whatever

 

[GhettoStar]

I have felt some level of it here, I mean every where I go it seems that people in this area know me or of me and I have had friends of mine see me say sup to 10+ people in concession and then make the comment of "how do you know so many fuckin people". So yea I guess I can understand what your saying. Also add that to the fact I do music as well as talk to people in a cool manner adds to this. I am popular without hanging out soley with the popular sect (this is seens somewhat on the net as well)

 

[THA_DAN]

It's also VERY easy to become arrogant and egotistical when you get well known for what you do. Sometimes I catch myself thinking I'm the shit and I have to check myself hard and shut the fuck up, because it doesnt take much for people to think of you as the 'egotistical rockstar' cliche, and that's a trap that you definately do not want to fall into.

truth has been said here.

 

[Vaudeville]

I understand what people with fame can live through... but come'on. You chose that path so you better live through whatever comes of it and don't really complain too much.

 

[GhettoStar]

If you get rich enough you can always seclude yourself ala Marlon Brando style.

 

[SonOf2pac]

To be a little bit cheesy i'd have to quote Pac and say, "All I want is money, fuck the fame I'm a simple man".

he also said "the one thing worth dying for... yadayada... Fame"

anyway... i wish rukas and militant luck with the future... the entertainment business is a tough one to break and you usually don't have much time (especially in music) so it's important to keep ya head on straight... that's good you doing it for the kids rukas :thumb:

i hope to see fame one day one way or another but it's so rare

REAL fame > money... but usually they come together