I have to agree with that - for 98 000 fans, they're not very vocal like Fenerbahce fans at 50 000 for example.
They might have 98,772 fans but it's they create no atmosphere at all, they're the worst fans i've encountered.
thats because all the nutcases (Boixous Nois) are banned from the Nu Camp lol
Man Utd with the easy draw as per every year.
Arsenal, Inter and Barca all on the other side of the draw. what kind of luck is that.
Im not saying Bayern are shit or anything. They have some good attacking players but defensively and in central midfield, they arent very strong.

yea great supporters of football. they go to the match and have more interest in fighting with oppositions supporters and causing problems for the team they supposedly support rather than actually watching the match. fuck them.

yea great supporters of football. they go to the match and have more interest in fighting with oppositions supporters and causing problems for the team they supposedly support rather than actually watching the match. fuck them.
yea but alot of ultras tend to be hooligans as well.
I'm not even surprised that an islander came up with this comment...
You don'T even know what an Ultra is...
Ultras are not hooligans, Ultras are fans that have the "ultra" mentality, the "beyond" mentality that their football club is more than just 11 players running around the field...
Most Ultra groups are organized groups who arrange Tifo displays, chants, etc.
They also organize protests if they disagree with what their club just did because their club represents them personally and they care of what they do.
Most of the ultra groups have rules. All of them have these 4 rules that you have to follow:never stop singing or chanting during a match, no matter what the result
- Never stop singing during a match
In that particular order.
- never sit down during a match
- attend as many games, home or away, whatever the price and distance.
- loyalty to your kop.
The idea of going to a game is not to put your butt in the seat, eat your god damn meat pie and hope that your team is going to score more goals that their opposition.
The idea of ultras is to fully support your team and more than that. If they lose, you are part of the reason why they lost because you didn't support them enough. If they win, you are part of the reason why they won because you gave them that extra .
I, for one, am part of an ultra group and every summer when I go back home, I attend all the god damn matches that I can and abuse my vocal cords with chanting and I am proud when my team wins.
Now... The Ultras groups that you seem to think of are the extremists, racist and idiotic hooligan groups. Even they don'T consider themselves ultras. They are known as extremists.
Then again, you have clubs that were owned or created by racist or fascist groups, like Lazio or Atletico Madrid. Of course the chances of their fans being racist are higher as they identify themselves to that club and that cause...
I'm kind of surprised that you, as a Sampdoria fan and as an Italian footy fan, don't know the meaning of Ultras...
But for all the good they do in creating these atmospheres there is a darker under belly to what ultras stand for. Ultra in Italian means beyond limit, they have a strong, deep and insane passion for there clubs. They are prepared to fight for the respect of there clubs colours and weapons including knives are commonly used.