I know they lost 3-0? Point.
Because how about Turkey having a harder group for one, Germany, Belgium, Austria. Ireland had Russia, Slovakia, Armenia. Ireland would not have finished 2nd in Turkeys group if you take Turkey out.
Secondly, Turkey have actually been to Euro's in recent years, when did Ireland last play in the Euros? 92? Turkey reached the semi finals of TWO major International tournaments in the last 10 years, Turkey have been in more recent international tournaments than Ireland.
Only thing Ireland have done better than Turkey in the past 20 years is finish 2nd in the WC groups whereas Turkey finished 3rd behind Spain and Bosnia.
yea they lost 3-0. if they won you have point. since the got trashed by Croatia there isnt much point in saying now is there unless its to wind me up.
moron.



(Though I fully stand by my Turkey should be seeded comments)