Do NOT Let Your Child Get Flu Vaccine -- 9 Reasons Why

[S O F I]

This summer I was stung in the finger by a bee and my finger swelled up...24 hours later, my entire hand swelled up to the point where I couldn't (as skinny as I am) find my knuckles. I went to the pharmacy for "allergy" medicine and they directed me to the emergency room. I got two vaccines, one in the right vein, one in the booty D) and an hour later, the swelling started to come off and by the next day my hand was more or less back to normal.

I'd like someone to explain to me how a vaccine in this situation was useless and unhealthy. What would have been the alternative? It was the only solution I was presented with by three different physicians/doctors.

 

[Jokerman]

It's a compelling point, but just pointing out the possibility of an incentive for these people to bullshit everyone doesn't necessarily mean that vaccinations have no merit at all.

It's worse than them just bullshitting everyone; they're bullshitting themselves. A lot of them believe it themselves because they dismiss the evidence that doesn't fit their paradigm. It's not that vaccines have no merit at all. In emergency situations, they might be necessary. It's that they are the wrong approach to the problems they claim to cure, have too many bad side-effects, and actively block the right approach from ever being implemented.

The same with meat-eating. It's not that meat has no merit at all, but the answer to world hunger is not to provide meat for everyone, for so many reasons. And health insurance for everyone, Mr. Obama, is missing the 300 pound gorilla in the room. Namely, why are people getting sick in the first place and costing the nation a trillion dollars each year. Nobody's addressing that in the healthcare discussion. It's not a health-care bill, it's an illness-maintenance bill.

 

[Jokerman]

I'd like someone to explain to me how a vaccine in this situation was useless and unhealthy. What would have been the alternative? It was the only solution I was presented with by three different physicians/doctors.

Emergency vaccines, like the Tetanus shot are often necessary. What you got was an injection. An injection in and of itself is just a way of delivering something to the bloodstream. I have no problems with a B-12 injection or your medicine injection. What I'm talking about are immunization vaccines. We need to understand that when we talk of vaccines, we're referring to immunization vaccines containing dead or live germs, not injections per se.

 

[S O F I]

oh yeah...d'oh. thanks.

 

[ill-matic]

It's worse than them just bullshitting everyone; they're bullshitting themselves. A lot of them believe it themselves because they dismiss the evidence that doesn't fit their paradigm. It's not that vaccines have no merit at all. In emergency situations, they might be necessary. It's that they are the wrong approach to the problems they claim to cure, have too many bad side-effects, and actively block the right approach from ever being implemented.

The same with meat-eating. It's not that meat has no merit at all, but the answer to world hunger is not to provide meat for everyone, for so many reasons. And health insurance for everyone, Mr. Obama, is missing the 300 pound gorilla in the room. Namely, why are people getting sick in the first place and costing the nation a trillion dollars each year. Nobody's addressing that in the healthcare discussion. It's not a health-care bill, it's an illness-maintenance bill.

But I think it's also a more cost effective way. Granted it's more of a band-aid solution to a number of health problems, and doesn't address the CAUSE of these issues, you can't brush it off as a mere profit building excercise.

Perhaps too much focus is placed on Vaccinations as the "be all and end all" solution - and it's not. I accept that. But I don't believe that it has absolutely no merits whatsoever, despite any ulterior profiteering motives that may exist.

 

[tupac4li4e]

What you guys don't understand is that Vaccination is not an evil or just some hoax to make more money. Obviously there are complications with it and it hasn't been perfected and there is room for improvement but that doesn't mean it should be stopped.

Oh but it means we should start rolling out 20 million swine flu vaccines a week does it ? I read an interesting thing the other day that compared the amount of people that die from swine flu is about the same as people that slip and fall in the bathtub to thier deaths, I don't see the government rolling out 20 million non slip rubber mats for all the houses that have baths in them, I could be wrong though.

I know you trust the New Scientist Masta and I know you are a little more, maybe much more, sane than this other fella who wouldn't listen to reason if it .

I am done discussing this because Facts don't matter.

LMAO, Farzin you remind me a little of Masta actually, no offence intended Masta. Selective quoting is hilarious sometimes hey Seb

I won’t bother to counter any of these claims any more than I would if someone came on here quoting someone saying smoking wasn’t bad for you or that Obama is not really an American citizen. There's no point in debating someone with a point of view who searches the net for something that backs up that view and posts it, without being able to critically assess what they are posting or its sources. They're not qualified to critically assess the response.

I will, however, point out that the source of that highly biased information .

Hmmm, what happened to Farzin after Jokerman shut his ass down?

I wonder if he "accidentally slipped its cock in his ass in the shower" and had to go to hosptial to get a vaccine for it?

 

[Duke]

It's worse than them just bullshitting everyone; they're bullshitting themselves. A lot of them believe it themselves because they dismiss the evidence that doesn't fit their paradigm. It's not that vaccines have no merit at all. In emergency situations, they might be necessary. It's that they are the wrong approach to the problems they claim to cure, have too many bad side-effects, and actively block the right approach from ever being implemented.

The same with meat-eating. It's not that meat has no merit at all, but the answer to world hunger is not to provide meat for everyone, for so many reasons. And health insurance for everyone, Mr. Obama, is missing the 300 pound gorilla in the room. Namely, why are people getting sick in the first place and costing the nation a trillion dollars each year. Nobody's addressing that in the healthcare discussion. It's not a health-care bill, it's an illness-maintenance bill.

This is the nuance I was looking for. I actually agree 100%.

 

[Sebastian]

Hmmm, what happened to Farzin after Jokerman shut his ass down?

What happened to this guy?

Anyone wants to make a guess?

 

[Jokerman]

This is the nuance I was looking for. I actually agree 100%.

Ok, you're no longer a pathetic loser.

 

[Jokerman]

What happened to this guy?

Anyone wants to make a guess?

He got vaccinated and developed lockjaw.

 

[tupac4li4e]

This is the nuance I was looking for. I actually agree 100%.

LOL, never !?

What happened to this guy?

Anyone wants to make a guess?

Jokerman was right !

Ok, you're no longer a pathetic loser.

hmmm, I dunno about that, hahaha.

He got vaccinated and developed lockjaw.

Right on the money! As usual.

 

[masta247]

Ok, you're no longer a pathetic loser.

I also agree! Hey, I agree!

 

[Jokerman]

I also agree! Hey, I agree!

Unfortunately, you're still a pathetic loser.

 

[ArtsyGirl]

Did you know people don't get sick because of cold weather, but because they stay inside more. So instead of a Flu Vac stay outside, especially you tupac4li4e.

 

[tupac4li4e]

Unfortunately, you're still a pathetic loser.

LOL, Burn!

Did you know people don't get sick because of cold weather, but because they stay inside more. So instead of a Flu Vac stay outside, especially you tupac4li4e.

Could be something to do with the Vitamin D we get from the sun, apparently it's very underated and office workers or people that work inside don't get nearly enough of it.

My main beef here is with the dodgy Swine Flu vac, but yes, it gets me to questions all vaccinations as well. I personally will try to avoid any needles the best I can.

Has ANYONE here got the Swine Flu shot yet?

 

[Glockmatic]

I'm getting the vaccine in the next few months, it's free for anyone in Ontario. If there are any side effects I'll just get some sick days.

It's easy to say "No I don't want this vaccine!" until you get the disease/virus. I'd rather be vaccinated for polio and meningitis than suffer that shit ever in my life.

 

[Da_Funk]

I'm not gonna say shit alright in regards to what I think or my opinions regarding this post, just putting it out there. Cos of all the haters lately.

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Peace & truth to all.


Do NOT Let Your Child Get Flu Vaccine -- 9 Reasons Why

So, what're you saying is that i can save myself a bunch of child support money by giving my kid this vaccine?

Sweet.

 

[tupac4li4e]

I'm getting the vaccine in the next few months, it's free for anyone in Ontario. If there are any side effects I'll just get some sick days.

It's easy to say "No I don't want this vaccine!" until you get the disease/virus. I'd rather be vaccinated for polio and meningitis than suffer that shit ever in my life.

I know a couple of people indirectly that have gotten it, they say it is a bad flu, but nothing that would kill them.

I think your post is a little contradictory if you look at it from a different perspective Glock.

So you're getting it because it's "free" and you think that any side effect rendered from it, will just give you a couple of days off work ? Right?

Then you compare it with polio and meningitis ?

Have you looked into how they make Tamiflu/Swine Flu vaccine ? There are a couple of sources that have said the government have stockpiled it since 06....there are many experts coming out and saying now that they would not recommend it.... there are many children that have developed autism because of the super high levels of mercury in similar flu vacs etc.

The chance that you will get the swine flu, is very minimal, but if you listen to the media about how deadly it is, and believe their shit, then I guess it would put you into that fearful mind state that pulls at your survival instinct strings....you should know that religion and governments worldwide have used fear to control the masses for their agendas for.....well forever it seems..

Have you thought about the possible long term side effects of Tamiflu? Has there been any long term testing with Tamiflu to see those possible side effects?

The US wants 160 million people vaccinated by December, if the makers of Tamiflu fucked up majorly in some way, (which now thanks to Obama can get no recourse or legal action against them if this shot fucks people up)....well now you're gonna have millions of people with all sorts of long term health problems or even deaths....and what will the politicians say ? Oh we had the peoples best interests at heart. FUCKING BULLSHIT.

Good luck Glock, seriously if you get that shit, I think you will need it.

 

[tupac4li4e]

So, what're you saying is that i can save myself a bunch of child support money by giving my kid this vaccine?

Sweet.

LMAO, well thats possible, but what if your kid just gets autism, or is confined to a wheelchair the rest of its life, then you could say Karma treated you fairly, lol.

 

[Jokerman]

I'm getting the vaccine in the next few months, it's free for anyone in Ontario. If there are any side effects I'll just get some sick days.

Side effects include your dick falls off and you grow breasts.