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Rukas

Rukas

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Does anyone else think its funny that dinosaurs ruled the earth for millions of years as these huge creatures that could swallow humans whole only to be reduced to birds that eat our food scraps? I mean, seems like they fell down the chain big time. I wonder what they did to piss nature off, but karma sure is a bitch.

I wonder if thats what the bird flu is, the dinosaurs revenge.
 
KAMIKAZI said:
How could the bird flu be the dinosaur's revenge? What did WE ever do to them?
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No us, nature. If it wipes us all out it will put them back onto the top of the chain like they were 65 million years ago. Its all a big conspiracy to regain control over the planet as the dominant species.
 
ReAleStOutLaWz1 said:
lol. rukas what were you doing while u thought of this?
u bored at ur work again?
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I thought of it yesturday while my girlfriend and I were eating subway outside and stupid birds kept trying to get our scraps.

Then I pondered on the idea and posted this at work, yes ;).
 
Rukas said:
You know, Im not sure. If thats the case though, your name holds the key...
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Wouldn't it suck if they all died out from the bird flu... damn I wish I could live long enough to see the outcome of this. :)
 
We basically, I know what you mean. You see million year old fossils and you just wonder... these animals were beasts in all the sense of the word, a T-Rex would eat your whole family tree as a snack. I mean you know how much a Whale needs to eat, imagine a dinosaur. I wish we had a way to see how Dinosaurs evolved... and how come crocodiles we see now are shrimps compared to their prehistoric ancestors (for example one was found to be 40 feet long and weighed ten tons) ... If nature is taking revenge on us, I don't know but nature has always survived... everything it faced.. We don't rule these lands, we just occupy them and are at nature's mercy.. (examples : volcano eruptions, earthquakes, tsunamis, comets hitting earth etc..) and oh don't forget, some dinosaurs did have feathers...
 
KAMIKAZI said:
Doesn't the bird flu kill birds too? :confused:
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Sorry to ruin the party.

But Bird Flu hasn't been contracted by a single human yet, and they are unsure if humans ever will. It's a bit like the millenium bug, probably a load of bullshit. Also flu jabs don't protect you from it, not that it stops a load of mad people from getting it. A bit like when there's a fuel strike and everyone empties Tesco.
 
Pittsey said:
Sorry to ruin the party.

But Bird Flu hasn't been contracted by a single human yet, and they are unsure if humans ever will. It's a bit like the millenium bug, probably a load of bullshit. Also flu jabs don't protect you from it, not that it stops a load of mad people from getting it. A bit like when there's a fuel strike and everyone empties Tesco.
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You are totally off base my friend if you're talking about the Bird Flu (H5N1)...

Avian Influenza Infection in Humans
November 15, 2005

What You Should Know About Avian Flu
Key Facts
Infections in Humans
Questions and Answers
Frequently Asked Questions (From the World Health Organization)

Although avian influenza A viruses usually do not infect humans, more than 100 confirmed cases of human infection with avian influenza viruses have been reported since 1997. For example, the World Health Organization (WHO) maintains situation updates and cumulative reports of human cases of avian influenza A (H5N1). Most cases of avian influenza infection in humans are thought to have resulted from direct contact with infected poultry or contaminated surfaces. However, there is still a lot to learn about how different subtypes and strains of avian influenza virus might affect humans. For example, it is not known how the distinction between low pathogenic and highly pathogenic strains might impact the health risk to humans. (For more information, see “Low Pathogenic versus Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza Viruses” on the CDC Influenza Viruses Web page.

Because of concerns about the potential for more widespread infection in the human population, public health authorities closely monitor outbreaks of human illness associated with avian influenza. To date, human infections with avian influenza A viruses detected since 1997 have not resulted in sustained human-to-human transmission. However, because influenza A viruses have the potential to change and gain the ability to spread easily between people, monitoring for human infection and person-to-person transmission is important. (See Information about Influenza Pandemics for more information.)
Instances of Avian Influenza Infections in Humans

Confirmed instances of avian influenza viruses infecting humans since 1997 include:

* H5N1, Hong Kong, Special Administrative Region, 1997: Highly pathogenic avian influenza A (H5N1) infections occurred in both poultry and humans. This was the first time an avian influenza A virus transmission directly from birds to humans had been found. During this outbreak, 18 people were hospitalized and six of them died. To control the outbreak, authorities killed about 1.5 million chickens to remove the source of the virus. Scientists determined that the virus spread primarily from birds to humans, though rare person-to-person infection was noted.
* H9N2, China and Hong Kong, Special Administrative Region, 1999: Low pathogenic avian influenza A (H9N2) virus infection was confirmed in two children and resulted in uncomplicated influenza-like illness. Both patients recovered, and no additional cases were confirmed. The source is unknown, but the evidence suggested that poultry was the source of infection and the main mode of transmission was from bird to human. However, the possibility of person-to-person transmission could not be ruled out. Several additional human H9N2 infections were reported from China in 1998-99.
* H7N2, Virginia, 2002: Following an outbreak of H7N2 among poultry in the Shenandoah Valley poultry production area, one person was found to have serologic evidence of infection with H7N2.
* H5N1, China and Hong Kong, Special Administrative Region, 2003: Two cases of highly pathogenic avian influenza A (H5N1) infection occurred among members of a Hong Kong family that had traveled to China. One person recovered, the other died. How or where these two family members were infected was not determined. Another family member died of a respiratory illness in China, but no testing was done.
* H7N7, Netherlands, 2003: The Netherlands reported outbreaks of influenza A (H7N7) in poultry on several farms. Later, infections were reported among pigs and humans. In total, 89 people were confirmed to have H7N7 influenza virus infection associated with this poultry outbreak. These cases occurred mostly among poultry workers. H7N7-associated illness included 78 cases of conjunctivitis (eye infections) only; 5 cases of conjunctivitis and influenza-like illnesses with cough, fever, and muscle aches; 2 cases of influenza-like illness only; and 4 cases that were classified as “other.” There was one death among the 89 total cases. It occurred in a veterinarian who visited one of the affected farms and developed acute respiratory distress syndrome and complications related to H7N7 infection. The majority of these cases occurred as a result of direct contact with infected poultry; however, Dutch authorities reported three possible instances of transmission from poultry workers to family members. Since then, no other instances of H7N7 infection among humans have been reported.
* H9N2, Hong Kong, Special Administrative Region, 2003: Low pathogenic avian influenza A (H9N2) infection was confirmed in a child in Hong Kong. The child was hospitalized and recovered.
* H7N2, New York, 2003: In November 2003, a patient with serious underlying medical conditions was admitted to a hospital in New York with respiratory symptoms. One of the initial laboratory tests identified an influenza A virus that was thought to be H1N1. The patient recovered and went home after a few weeks. Subsequent confirmatory tests conducted in March 2004 showed that the patient had been infected with avian influenza A (H7N2) virus.
* H7N3 in Canada, 2004: In February 2004, human infections of highly pathogenic avian influenza A (H7N3) among poultry workers were associated with an H7N3 outbreak among poultry. The H7N3-associated, mild illnesses consisted of eye infections.
* H5N1, Thailand and Vietnam, 2004, and other outbreaks in Asia during 2004 and 2005: In January 2004, outbreaks of highly pathogenic influenza A (H5N1) in Asia were first reported by the World Health Organization. Visit the Avian Influenza section of the World Health Organization Web site for more information and updates.

Symptoms of Avian Influenza in Humans

The reported symptoms of avian influenza in humans have ranged from typical influenza-like symptoms (e.g., fever, cough, sore throat, and muscle aches) to eye infections (conjunctivitis), pneumonia, acute respiratory distress, viral pneumonia, and other severe and life-threatening complications.
Antiviral Agents for Influenza
Four different influenza antiviral drugs (amantadine, rimantadine, oseltamivir, and zanamivir) are approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of influenza; three are approved for prophylaxis. All four have activity against influenza A viruses. However, sometimes influenza strains can become resistant to these drugs, and therefore the drugs may not always be effective. For example, analyses of some of the 2004 H5N1 viruses isolated from poultry and humans in Asia have shown that the viruses are resistant to two of the medications (amantadine and rimantadine). Monitoring of avian influenza A viruses for resistance to influenza antiviral medications is ongoing.

Source ^ http://www.cdc.gov

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^^^ Don't believe everything you read on the net. I can bring you a 30 page document on how 2pac is alive.


Bird Flu has yet to be passed on to any human. You can't compare any infection to bird flu, which is what your document is doing. I can't be bothered to get into it, too much shit today. We can agree to disagree.
 
Pittsey said:
^^^ Don't believe everything you read on the net. I can bring you a 30 page document on how 2pac is alive.


Bird Flu has yet to be passed on to any human. You can't compare any infection to bird flu, which is what your document is doing. I can't be bothered to get into it, too much shit today. We can agree to disagree.
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Sure bro but I don't think.. atleast my OWN OPINION is that The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (Of the United States) can't make up something like this. There are too many Doctors, Nurses, Scientists, non-essential staff who are around the victims of this virus for this to be fake and made up. But sure, we can agree to disagree so I salute you for respecting my thoughts. Have a good day sir.
 
Stop ruining my thread you two! And yeah, bird flu has been contracted by humans, but not passed human to human yet.

Anyway, back to the dinosaurs!
 
Rukas said:
Stop ruining my thread you two! And yeah, bird flu has been contracted by humans, but not passed human to human yet.

Anyway, back to the dinosaurs!
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What's so damn cool is that every damn week or so they find a new species of dinosaurs... I had a one on one meeting with one of the top Paleo/ Environmental Archaeologists that work closely with excavations that happen in Lebanon .. He's originally from London, he basically told me.. anywhere you dig a hole, you can find remains from the past.. so it's no wonder we keep finding new species of dinosaurs
 
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