death row was a corrupt company even before pac joined tha row. The only reason death row existed was due to harry-o(incarcerated) drug money. not to mention other projects which suge knight and david kenner promised to do with harry-o which never happened.
Did Pac Make A Mistake Joining Death Row?
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That doesn't make them corrupt though. That just mean that the company was created through funds from illegitimate sources, and it's not like Suge, Dre, and Snoop were selling crack to start up Death Row, they just basically got a loan from a cocaine dealer.comMUNITY said:
While Death Row has always been invovled in shady dealings, things got worse after Pac. Not necessarily directly because of Pac, but Pac's anger was fueled by Death Row's notoriety, and Death Row was pumped up by Pac's fire. Before Pac, Death Row did some questionable things... creating the company with drug money (although this isn't really a horrible thing, it's not like Suge can go into Bank of America and be approved for a $1.5 million loan), hanging Vanilla Ice off a hotel balcony, intimidating Eazy into releasing Dre (not for nothing, seeing how Eazy still profited off of Dre's Death Row work), stealing Kurupt from his original manager, the studio shootout with Dre's friends who disrespected Suge, and then some other beatdowns and what not. But when you look at it, a lot of that is just street shit that followed them into the music business. But when Pac got there, Death Row was just out of control. They started fucking over Dre, beating down their own artists (Sam Sneed, among others) and studio engineers for bullshit reasons, jumping people to get other people's addresses, allegedly making guys drink urine. And Pac was a part of most of those things. Then they ended up fucking him over for his money and then his life, indirectly.
people always say suge had something to do with pacs death.
y would suge have pac shot when hes driving the car? that wouldnt be smart on suges part. i think pac made the right choice goin to death row, he made alot of good shit.
y would suge have pac shot when hes driving the car? that wouldnt be smart on suges part. i think pac made the right choice goin to death row, he made alot of good shit.
i know what u mean DeeezNuuuts83. sorry for all these questions/theories but since pac had rehabilitated himself in prison (by giving up thug life, planning to set up organisations for kids and had stop taking drugs), choosing to go to death row lead him 2 choose the thug life, death row personna which almost got him killed in 1994? wouldnt it of been better since pac knew about the reputation death row had, to have avoided joining death row?
If you watch MTV's "Live from Death Row" documentary (for those of you who were wise enough to tape it when it aired in 1997 or so), there are video clips of various Death Row employees talking about this. First it showed Suge saying, "Pac LOVED Death Row. He loved me, I love him. If you asked him if he wanted to leave Death Row, I guarantee he would cuss you out." Then it cuts to Busstop from O.F.T.B. who says "Pac wanted to leave Death Row BAD. He hated it. But he knew that 'this was the hand that's feeding me. And I don't even know how much I owe Suge. He say I do.' And that's what that Makaveli album was, it was more or less a sacrifice album." I don't remember if it was right after this or before it, but it shows Nate Dogg saying something similar to what he said in the XXL interview along the lines of, "Pac wanted to leave. That's why he did them albums so fast, I think he had a three album deal."
nate dogg is obviously biased against suge and he just wanted 2 talk some more. Yeah, makes sense with a 3 album contract, 2 record a few hundred songs over that to hurry and get out of the contract while screamin death row out on near each one. the truth will probably always be some where in the middle of what peop;le say. pac was a ridah.
Even refer to 1 of Fatal's interviews with this site, he said that was bullshit too not dependin on what the situation actually was with death row etc Pac was just recordin to be recordin, not to satisfy a contract to leave
edit:notice too fatal also commented on the lawz signin to suge, sayin that pac told em all the time Don't sign to death row don't sign to death row
Even refer to 1 of Fatal's interviews with this site, he said that was bullshit too not dependin on what the situation actually was with death row etc Pac was just recordin to be recordin, not to satisfy a contract to leave
edit:notice too fatal also commented on the lawz signin to suge, sayin that pac told em all the time Don't sign to death row don't sign to death row
in jail near the end he started to fuel up energy against bad boy etc because of puffys interview tryin to call him out on being a thug, so he brought it back after sayin thug life was 'dead'. and then suge came along at the time he didcomMUNITY said:
i think at the beggining, pac didnt just want to rush and get off death row. i think he actually liked making music for them and even stated in interviews that even 5 years time after he joined death row, he would still work there and still open up businesses with death row inmates. but once pac was releasing a lot of albums n movies, death row took advantage of him and money seemed more important to them than anything else. and on the welcome to death row dvd,i remember o.f.t.b saying that suge was not mentioning no one else at the time because his main focus was pac. in the long term, death row, i believe lead to pacs downfall.
Death Row Era.....without it 2pac would haven't been soldified as a numba one contender for GOAT. Even if it did cost him his life (ie: being too loyal)
exactlyMorris said:
Who knows what Pac would have gotten into even without Death Row. Death Row didn't give him that big mouth of his. He always had that.
The only way you can say yes is if you think Suge killed Pac.
Well it's that whole shit and i can't remember when the interview was when he said years down line would be a a&r type person @ death row and drop an album every 5 years like paul mccartney"?. But at the end u can see he was in the process of startin the death row east and wantin to sign everybody to that and get that goin in new york with death row. among all the other shit somethin else always been questionable to me was that on sep 5 or sep 6 or whenver(?) when he tried to get his tapes from the studio but couldnt cause suge wouldnt let it happen. and pac had letter wrote up firein Kenner as his manager and that whole issues on top of the Money shit that never really got discussed in the public.comMUNITY said:
Does anyone remember some of them long ass conspiracy articles written after he died and it even had shit abou thow when pac signed deal with death row "I know i'm sellin my soul but.." etc? Does anybody remember the quote from Syke suposedly where he said after the late situation with d.r...."Fire Kenner? You can't fire Kenner"
DeeezNuuuts83 said:
i just watched that suge part about him saying 'he'd cuss you out' on youtube the other day. hes talking about other stuff too, like how the bullet was still in his head :sleepy:
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