Depression

[Shadows]

How big is depression?

Is it a belief or really something you suffer from?

I'm surprised no one here made a thread about Junior Seau's suicide, it's ALL over ESPN and facebook.

To make it quick, he was a Legendary NFL Line Backer for the San Diego Chargers that reached Hall of Fame last year. Off the field, he was seen as a very great person who was always smiling and helping people. In fact, he inspired some other players to have foundations for the city they played in too.

After seeing interviews of his former team mates after his death, I seen that they all said that he never showed weakness. The player then continued that maybe it wasn't just an off field thing, but i guess he never showed anyone weakness.

I think it's what caused him to do suicide. He kept his emotions within and never talked to anyone about anything.

Has anyone ever suffered from this?

I'm kinda sad about it, not only was he a good guy, but he was an actual player for my hometown, who also was a FAN of the team he played for.... but at the same time I choose not to be sad because I gotta know that he left a good foundation and i'm out trying to do moves to improve my life so I don't get depressed.

 

[dilla]

Different people cope in different ways. Everyone has their own unique breaking point in addition to their coping method. Something that might get one person depressed or down in the dumps may not even bother the other. Genetics has a lot to do with it too as some people are more susceptible to behavior disorders, in general.

As for Junior, they still haven't really mentioned the reason for his suicide, and I doubt we'll really find out, but Junior had been through several concussions, if I'm not wrong. In my undergrad neuroscience class, we learned have this affects cognitive ability and a player is never quite the same after a concussion, let alone many concussions which many players in the NFL are subject to. But that also could have altered his mind state, making him "not normal" with a chemical imbalance or damage to a specific area of the brain which may regulate his behavior.

It's unfortunate, but this is what many former athletes, mainly exNFL athletes, suffer from when they're done playing. The game causes an athlete to for so long in a certain way that it ruins the athlete's life once he's done playing. TONS of players die before they see 60 due to heart attacks, strokes, etc. If he was a 350+lb bastard for 20 years, it's no mystery why.

 

[Jokerman]

"Junior is a warrior. He played 20 years in the NFL as a linebacker. You have to be a warrior. Warriors conquer problems they face and they run at them," McPherson said Thursday.​

Sometimes suicide is the way people choose to "conquer" their problems, their depression. It might be the wrong choice, but it's not always about giving up. I don't know his situation. Concussions may have contributed to it or perhaps holding things in. Or he might have had some personal problem he just didn't want to live with any more. You never know how close many are to it without anyone having a clue. You can't always tell how someone feels based on how they act.​

 

[S O F I]

and besides, how is suicide giving up?

 

[dilla]

Some say suicide is selfish. In this great country of ours where "freedom" is a common theme, I think someone has the "freedom" to choose whether they live or not.

I don't know anyone like this, but it might not always be someone that is fed up with life. Someone simply might just be done with it. Euthanasia immediately comes to mind. You've seen whatever you've wanted to see, done everything you've wanted to, and you don't feel the need to live as long as you can, you should be able to end it. Maybe be a bit more "considerate" and not leave a mess, like blood on the walls or scar the person that finds you for life. Just go quietly and quickly.

Society has so many conflicting/hypocritical views on many things. Dying in a war is heroic, but taking yours or someone else's life is selfish, a sin, bad, etc. I think the perfect suicide would be right on the White House lawn. Let the gunshot be heard and people freak the fuck out. That'll show "the man."

 

[Pittsey]

Some say suicide is selfish. In this great country of ours where "freedom" is a common theme, I think someone has the "freedom" to choose whether they live or not.

Completely agree.

I had a low point in my life once. When my thoughts were consumed by a problem I had. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't function and the anxiety was a huge weight on my shoulder, neck and a pain in stomach. Suicide stops all of those pains. So I can see how it would be a relief. If I wasn't so chicken I may even have taken that route.

 

[S O F I]

we're glad you're with us pitts . We want you around.

- see, THAT'S BEING SELFISH, not suicide.

i still meant it

 

[Flipmo]

Just don't jump into the metro/subway rails. I got shit to do mother fucker. Kill yourself on your own time homie.

 

[dilla]

You can tell a lot about a person that committed suicide by the way he died. Making it a public spectacle probably meant that their motive(s) was to hurt someone else or pass the pain on to someone else. The way I see it is you commit suicide for yourself. To make yourself "feel better" and to just end the pain, suffering, whatever it is people go through in their lives that drives them to it. I don't think it's something others need to see. When I see people jumping on the train tracks, jumping off bridges during rush hour, etc., I can't help but feel those people need an audience. If you can't put a bullet in your head in your own bathtub, then maybe you haven't quite reached the point where you need to be killing yourself. Because when you are truly done with life, good or bad, I feel you should not have to think twice about ending it.

Because you only have one person to answer to. Yourself. "Is it time for me to go?.....Yes." End it.

When you waste other people's time by causing a stand off on a bridge or a delay on the trains, I think it's just an attention whore's last stand. "Look at me! I'm dead! I hope you cry and feel bad for me!" When in reality, they just get littered over the news and social media for a few hours, a couple of gruesome pictures, and then you're done.

 

[Chronic]

Or live on forever on ogrish.

 

[ARon]

I forgot about that site lmao

 

[Jokerman]

When something brings me down, instead of going into depressed or suicide mode, I go into destroy-the-world mode. It's very cathartic. Plus it gets things done.

 

[S O F I]

and by destroy the world, Jokerman envisions not saying hi to the check out lady.

 

[Jokerman]

Jokerman envisions not saying hi to the check out lady.

I don't envision. Like Nike taught me, I JUST DO IT!

 

[S O F I]

YEEZY TAUGHT ME

 

[Flipmo]

A short documentary about the "Suicide Forest" in Japan where they discover 100+ bodies a year. It's worth a watch. The gentleman they interview as they walk through the forest is part of the Suicide Watch and an environmental researcher. It's worth a look whenever you have free time.

There are some still shots of suicides, but nothing too gruesome.

 

[S O F I]

the fuck i look like, masta? i don't care about the japs offing themselves.

ok fine, i don't car about the japanese offing themselves. jeez, so sensitive.

 

[Pittsey]

the fuck i look like, masta? i don't care about the japs offing themselves.

ok fine, i don't car about the japanese offing themselves. jeez, so sensitive.

It's the American way.

Like how the Pres campaigns on others civil rights, but is happy to violate others on his turf to protect "freedom"....

 

[Cooper]

 

[S O F I]

It's the American way.

Like how the Pres campaigns on others civil rights, but is happy to violate others on his turf to protect "freedom"....

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH