billboards defaced

[haunted]

How revealing was the billboard? Less revealing than a bikini?

 

[haunted]

Yeah lock the bastards up, how dare thay vandalise a poster, thats pure evil. They deserve some real time in jail, maybe even a bit of rehabilitation.lol

Do you know how much those "posters" cost? They are lucky they dont get sent to prison.

 

[tupacmansion]

Do you know how much those "posters" cost? They are lucky they dont get sent to prison.

Well in the UK the police has a laid back attitude on petty shit like that. The prisons are more or less at full capacity so they'd probably jus say 'fuk it'. I think they'd rather catch criminals who really affect society. Plus without realising, these vandalists are actually helping to promote, the businesses whos posters they destroy. The bra businesses etc. are prolly lovin all of this free advertising through newspapers and TV, so i don't think they're worried about the cost of a few vandalised posters.

 

[chaos]

Should muslims be allowed to tear down anything they deem offensive?
most material of this nature has rules rules governing that material, as in this case there is a regulator (ASA). Or there may be a council, or some other authority. In shortm, the material should not be torn down but the authorities contacted and notified of offence because of some VALID reason.
When I prtially defended the vandalism of the billboard, it wasn't in the context of complete anarchy. I simply approached it from a angle similar to the civil unrest caused by the miners in the 80's, or the recent blockades at petrol refineries by truckers and taxi drivers. I think that both the miners and truckers caused a healthy level of civil disobedience.
the YSL billboard that I have posted. I myself complained against that and people in my area defaced the image, it was taken down. Should they have vandalised it? Well this kind of vandalism I was looking at from a similar perspective of the truckers who blockaded the refineries.

Should research be done, regarding billboards? well, if the billboards are indecent then they shouldn't be allowed in the first place. What is being advertised has never been a problem, you dont see people tearing down adverts advertising pork chops. Television has strict laws before the watershed, so to ask for indecent advertising to be removed from billboards is nothing new in british culture. They already have laws concerning decency in public and public broadcasting.

True, from that ad u posted had the woman been there on the street she would have been arrested for public indecency.

I cant believe people are turning this into an argument about immigration. And quite a few of u "i'm not a racist" ure posts regarding immigration and assylum seeking seem to be totally ignorant.

 

[chaos]

What they did is called vandalism, just because they think they own that part of england now and think they can turn it into some god forsaken land of theres and do what they want with it, again, gather them up, lock them up, untill they learn their lesson, it's time to get tough.

I bet u believe that Muslims are "spreading" around the world and then begin to mulitply like rats in order to colonise that area too?

 

[groobz]

Did i say that? lol, keep trying.

 

[not really ken]

I cant believe people are turning this into an argument about immigration. And quite a few of u "i'm not a racist" ure posts regarding immigration and assylum seeking seem to be totally ignorant.

Illuminattile is the only one who made a poignant post about the whole immigration thing. But his witty sarcasm went over the heads of the people it was aimed at. :thumb:

 

[not really ken]

How revealing was the billboard? Less revealing than a bikini?

this below one was removed
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=y.../www.peterwilkinson.karoo.net/sophiedahl3.jpg

I cant find the desperate housewives one, where one of the charachters was defaced the other one was left intact.

 

[not really ken]

What they did is called vandalism, just because they think they own that part of england now and think they can turn it into some god forsaken land of theres and do what they want with it, again, gather them up, lock them up, untill they learn their lesson, it's time to get tough.

Yes it is literally called vandalism. However first of all they didn't introduce new ideas into their england they aren't burning down pubs, rather there are rule regulating billboards in england in the first place. These rules are a slight grey area (like the whole burglar/ intruder law in UK). They simply asked for a SLIGHTLY stricted enforcment of laws which have already been put in place to govern things like this. Nothing new or 5shariah about that is there.
THere are many rules and laws in place in the UK currently governing public shows of indeceny, such as naturists, men with their dicks hanging out from their pants, you get the idea. Similar with televeision there is the 9 o,clock watershed, where the adult stuff come on after 9. So whats the problem with campaigning for slightly stricter enforceent.

and on the vandalism tip, well I have already explained that in past posts. Smart people like Illuminattile and that heartless understood my point and accepted that I was able to have an opinion. But a few people seemed to take, my having an opinion as an attack on the Britsih way of life. and an attack on their country. I respect Illuminattile and tha hearltess for understanding objectively my point and accepting it.

Finally, who's land is the UK. Remeber the controvesy surrounding the Jerry Springer show. The christians up and down the land got laughed at silly and hated on for trying to get Jerry SPringer removed from the BBC for having a blasphemous theme somewhere in there.
also am I not allowed to have an opinion on the interpretation of grey areas in british laws and rules. Primary example being the burglar/ intruder law. or would that be an attack on British way of life.

 

[groobz]

Ken, you can write 7 paragraphs explaining why your little philosophy on why vandalising is justified, but you know me too well to accept such rubbish. Rules are rules, and if you break them you have to face the consequences.

 

[not really ken]

In the UK if an intruder broke into your house, would you defend yourself with force? In the UK you would have the full force of the law come down on you if your defended yourself with force.
Tell me, if you encountered an intruder and were startled at his presence and felt threatened, would you defend yourself using force? Or would you run away?
I know rules are rules, but sometimes you have to think outside of the box and be real. We are not robots that base decision on literal logic, rules and algorithms, we have emotional intelligence.

And to calcuo, I never said that your debate here had been weak, I simply referred to the whole 'analogy exaggeration' point was a weak argument. I've noticed your little edit in the other thread. But if thats how you feel then fair comment! :thumb:.

 

[groobz]

In the UK if an intruder broke into your house, would you defend yourself with force? In the UK you would have the full force of the law come down on you if your defended yourself with force.
Tell me, if you encountered an intruder and were startled at his presence and felt threatened, would you defend yourself using force? Or would you run away?
I know rules are rules, but sometimes you have to think outside of the box and be real. We are not robots that base decision on literal logic, rules and algorithms, we have emotional intelligence.

And to calcuo, I never said that your debate here had been weak, I simply referred to the whole 'analogy exaggeration' point was a weak argument. I've noticed your little edit in the other thread. But if thats how you feel then fair comment! :thumb:.

Yeah that law applys here as well, and i agree it sucks. But we're not talking about that are we? we're talking about vandalising someone elses property. Would you like it if I went and fucked up your letterbox because i didn't like it? it's really not that hard mate, come on be reasonable.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

And to calcuo, I never said that your debate here had been weak, I simply referred to the whole 'analogy exaggeration' point was a weak argument. I've noticed your little edit in the other thread. But if thats how you feel then fair comment!

Yeah I retracted that, not to be bitchy but just because I feel that here you've shown the opposite of the qualities which I had applauded you for. Not to say that you have no power as a debator just that you are no longer on my list & although I don't think that it really matters to you anyway, it's nice to see you accept that with dignity.

 

[The.Menace]

this below one was removed
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=y.../www.peterwilkinson.karoo.net/sophiedahl3.jpg

I cant find the desperate housewives one, where one of the charachters was defaced the other one was left intact.

I agree that this is offensive and I agree that is wrong. We shouldn't have those kinds of billboard all over town. I agree there should be a kind of control. But still they don't have the right to destroy them.

 

[Zero Cool]

It is the society of the people who live there. The people get to decide how to run there own society

Indeed which is why a minority such as Muslims are have no right to do this when it's obviously accepted as normal by the vast majority of the public. If they have a problem with it complain to the ASA or just simply ignore it.

 

[not really ken]

Yeah that law applys here as well, and i agree it sucks. But we're not talking about that are we? we're talking about vandalising someone elses property. Would you like it if I went and fucked up your letterbox because i didn't like it? it's really not that hard mate, come on be reasonable.

Letterbox? WTF, look, i have stated before that there are laws governing and regulating billboards, these laws come under public decency act. How you enforce or interpret the laws is open to debate. That is why some people may find it offensive and others may not, its a grey area. But show me laws governing letter boxes? Is the regulation of letterboxes a grey area?

The point with the intruder was that differing people will have differing opinions on how to handle an intruder. Some may feel that you should be allowed to shoot them, others will feel that you should use 'resonable force'. Tell me, if someone disagrees with you on an issue over the intruder law, will you counter them with 'well I dont like your letterbox should I be allowed to break that?

You say to me that we're not talking about the intruder law here (when I was making a point over how some laws can be grey areas and you can have differing opinions), well we're also not talking about letter boxes.

 

[not really ken]

I agree that this is offensive and I agree that is wrong. We shouldn't have those kinds of billboard all over town. I agree there should be a kind of control. But still they don't have the right to destroy them.

OK and I can accept that. People had full right to complain for the removal of any offending posters but there's no link to this incident and some kind of plot to overthrow the monarchy and take over the UK by muslims, Prevent people from drinking alcohol and stop them from wearing clothes they choose to. (Some people seem to have looked at it from this angle, that 'invasion' has begun )

 

[Zero Cool]

OK and I can accept that, but there's no link to this incident and some kind of plot to overthrow the monarchy and take over the UK by muslims. Prevent people from drinking alcohol and stop them from wearing clothes they choose to. (Some people seem to have looked at it from this angle, that 'invasion' has begun )

We live in a society governed by laws, you can't just disregard the one's you don't agree with. If they find the billboards offensive fine complain to the ASA or take it up in the courts, don't take the law into your own hands. What they have done (although it might be for sound reasons) is a crime.

 

[groobz]

Letterbox? WTF, look, i have stated before that there are laws governing and regulating billboards, these laws come under public decency act. How you enforce or interpret the laws is open to debate. That is why some people may find it offensive and others may not, its a grey area. But show me laws governing letter boxes? Is the regulation of letterboxes a grey area?

The point with the intruder was that differing people will have differing opinions on how to handle an intruder. Some may feel that you should be allowed to shoot them, others will feel that you should use 'resonable force'. Tell me, if someone disagrees with you on an issue over the intruder law, will you counter them with 'well I dont like your letterbox should I be allowed to break that?

You say to me that we're not talking about the intruder law here (when I was making a point over how some laws can be grey areas and you can have differing opinions), well we're also not talking about letter boxes.

Kenny you make things seem so difficult. But its as simple as "Don't vandalize" simple as that, they were in the wrong when the did it, they should pay the price. Theres no grey area at all, ask any decent person with half a brain and they will tell you that vandalising billboards is wrong.

 

[tupacmansion]

Kenny you make things seem so difficult. But its as simple as "Don't vandalize" simple as that, they were in the wrong when the did it, they should pay the price. Theres no grey area at all, ask any decent person with half a brain and they will tell you that vandalising billboards is wrong.

Would you feel this strongy if it was a set of non-muslims doing the vandalising?