Are you blind, Chistians

[Valeoz]

jehovas witness doesn't allow blood transfusions when a person could easily be cured by it. Bob Marley would be alive today if he had his toe amputated but he believed god would keep him alive. Just some examples

But so what? JWs are nuts and not allowing blood transfusion has no relation to God, anyone with sense will CHOOSE not to become a JW, if they do choose to become a JW then its their fault. Bob Marley didn't believe God will heal him, he was given a choice to either have an amputation or let it heal on its own. He chose the latter for his Rasta beliefs that the body must be whole, I have respect for that. But he did have some surgery.

religion, god, same thing

And this is where we all should end the conversation with Glockmatic.

 

[Glockmatic]

I don't understand how you can ridicule other religions yet you get so defensive when someone ridicules yours.

Bob Marley also believed that his faith would keep him alive. Yes he did have surgery, but if he had it amputated the cancer wouldn't have spread throughout his body. His death was preventable but his religion didn't allow it.

WHAT??? give me a break.

Religion is worshipping god yes?

 

[W210]

Your the religion expert. How many religions are out there, that dont really have anything to God? probably enough to condone my "WHAT". You can ridicule religion all you want, especially all the false ones. I only get mad when you get down on God.

 

[VENOMOUS]

Some people pray for things such as cures for their diseases when it would be easily curable by a doctor or at a hospital. People have died believing that a faith healer would heal them from cancer or other diseases or believing that god will save them from a bad situation. Solutions to our problems will be by humans, not god/gods

so what about the people who pray 4 cures and acutually gets cured?

 

[Glockmatic]

so what about the people who pray 4 cures and acutually gets cured?

like who

 

[VENOMOUS]

there have been people who have had cancer and doctors told them they have a certain amount of time and the cancer goes into remisson or but all dissapear.google it

 

[Sebastian]

so what about the people who pray 4 cures and acutually gets cured?

Obviously praying was not the reason for their cure.

 

[VENOMOUS]

Obviously praying was not the reason for their cure.

then what was?

 

[Sebastian]

I know what kind of stories you are talking about, i have heard them before too. Honestly, im not a doctor and im not aware of any specific case in which someone got cured all of a sudden. But i thinks its very very far fetched to say praying saved his/her life.

 

[Duke]

there have been people who have had cancer and doctors told them they have a certain amount of time and the cancer goes into remisson or but all dissapear.google it

It's called being a lucky bastard.

 

[Valeoz]

Bob Marley also believed that his faith would keep him alive. Yes he did have surgery, but if he had it amputated the cancer wouldn't have spread throughout his body. His death was preventable but his religion didn't allow it.

Did you read what I said? Your low, stop trying to blame his death on religion. Marley had his beliefs and he was contented with his beliefs, your argument is selfish. Do you also want to rob people of their freedom to believe? You talk about religion, but the manner in which you talk is lower than you villianous religion. I don't like religion either but you're nowhere better.

 

[Glockmatic]

How is my argument selfish? He is just one example of people who's belief have made them die an early age. People do have the freedom of religion, but they also have the right to life. Saying i'm villianous and low is pretty low in itself

 

[Illuminattile]

there have been people who have had cancer and doctors told them they have a certain amount of time and the cancer goes into remisson or but all dissapear.google it

If you actually think that their diseases were "cured" because of their beliefs, then you must believe in a lot of Gods. Some people claim aliens have cured them of diseases, do you believe them?

But so what? JWs are nuts and not allowing blood transfusion has no relation to God, anyone with sense will CHOOSE not to become a JW, if they do choose to become a JW then its their fault. Bob Marley didn't believe God will heal him, he was given a choice to either have an amputation or let it heal on its own. He chose the latter for his Rasta beliefs that the body must be whole, I have respect for that. But he did have some surgery.

You respect Marley for letting himself die because of his beliefs, but you call Jehovah's Witnesses "nuts" and say they lack sense for doing something similar? Hypocrisy?

 

[W210]

It's called being a lucky bastard.

Thats not a medical term is it?

 

[VENOMOUS]

If you actually think that their diseases were "cured" because of their beliefs, then you must believe in a lot of Gods. Some people claim aliens have cured them of diseases, do you believe them?


You respect Marley for letting himself die because of his beliefs, but you call Jehovah's Witnesses "nuts" and say they lack sense for doing something similar? Hypocrisy?

I dont know what to believe except 4 what i believe.But i do know one thing...If somebody was dying from a disease and the doctors gave them a certain time span to live.Then some how there cured.I know something not normal happened whether it be aliens jesus or GOD that intervined something did happenen.

I cant believe them nor can i beleive them but i do beleive something did happened and that's what not to be ruled out.Especially when there no explanation to y they got cured.I have a open mind anything is possible.

 

[VENOMOUS]

It's called being a lucky bastard.

so what caused the luck.Your quick to believe in luck though:thumb:

 

[VENOMOUS]

I know what kind of stories you are talking about, i have heard them before too. Honestly, im not a doctor and im not aware of any specific case in which someone got cured all of a sudden. But i thinks its very very far fetched to say praying saved his/her life.

How can u say thats far fetched when its just as far fetched for some1 to get cured"mysteriously"When they are suppose to die..

 

[VENOMOUS]

with 3 billion people praying to the same god and no divine intervention helping any of them (unless you believe rolling on the ground and speaking in tongues is some sign), millions of people starving and dying from diseases (put on earth by "an all loving god"). Then i'm suppose to believe that those people who die from starvation and diseases will most likely go to hell because they don't believe in the right religion, whichever one that is, and people who have sinned can go to heaven just by asking for forgiveness.

God put people on this earth 2 learn.The onl way you learn is thru love pain,having,not having,sharing It should be on us as humans to love and take care of each other....There should be no man starving on this earth.You cant blame God 4 what we dont do.This life is but a dream and death is the reality and unless youve been to that reality you cant really speak on it cause you know nothing of it.

Im not the one to judge and say who goes to hell from who doesnt.It doesnt even say that in the bible where does it say in the bible if you have a different belief your going to hell?Be4 you attack something you should read it yourself instead of listening to what other people say about it u might have a more detailed comprehension of the Bible.

 

[Glockmatic]

God must have some sick school course if he would kill millions of his own children through starvation and very curable diseases so we could learn. Humans as test subjects, i'm pretty sure some people did the same thing about 60 years ago

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the
life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.
(John 14:6)

If non-believers don't go to hell, where do they go? Some sort of limbo to wait for eternity?

 

[Sebastian]

How can u say thats far fetched when its just as far fetched for some1 to get cured"mysteriously"When they are suppose to die..

See, thats how all this stuff started....People cant explain how things happen and the next move they make is "blame" it on God.