Are you blind, Chistians

[ill-matic]

So you have belief or faith that there is no God, because your belief is not based on fact.

a belief in something is no longer a belief when it becomes an indisputable fact. that's my whole point. religion is a belief in something. it's whole basis is on faith and belief. it's not supposed to be FACT but it's supposed to be a BELIEF, a FAITH in something.

 

[W210]

a belief in something is no longer a belief when it becomes an indisputable fact. that's my whole point. religion is a belief in something. it's whole basis is on faith and belief. it's not supposed to be FACT but it's supposed to be a BELIEF, a FAITH in something.

And my point is that the same is true when you claim there is no God. It is not based on any facts, only faith or belief that your doubts are justified.

 

[ill-matic]

And my point is that the same is true when you claim there is no God. It is not based on any facts, only faith or belief that your doubts are justified.

Exactly.

 

[Sebastian]

and it would be the worst argument ever happening

:thumb:

 

[Duke]

Just to answer the thread title:

Yes, yes they are.

 

[W210]

Not blind deaf or dumb.

 

[W210]

Exactly.

So why is it that christians are so dumb and athiests are ok, even though they both require faith.

 

[Duke]

Atheism doesn't require faith, where did you get that notion?

 

[Glockmatic]

Atheism doesn't require faith, where did you get notion?

Well his theory is that atheists don't know for a fact that god exists, therefore atheists are following faith that god doesn't exist.

 

[Duke]

Well his theory is that atheists don't know for a fact that god exists, therefore atheists are following faith that god doesn't exist.

lol? faith in disbelief? that's a good one.

 

[XIAN]

^Good because it's true. If you think there is no chance, that's called ignorance. So you faith that there is no afterlife, but you really have no idea.

Just to answer the thread title:

Yes, yes they are.

And that's your opinion, and that's ignorance. I am a Christian, and I promise you I am not blind. I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. That's sight.

The rise of the knowledge is not linked with the increasing number of non believers. It's all happening because of materialism.

:thumb: :thumb:

 

[Glockmatic]

I am a Christian, and I promise you I am not blind. I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

you know most of his teachings were taught 500 years earlier by Siddhārtha Gautama right? Read up Pancasila and it is almost the same teachings, but you don't consider yourself a buddhist?

 

[Valeoz]

you know most of his teachings were taught 500 years earlier by Siddhārtha Gautama right? Read up Pancasila and it is almost the same teachings, but you don't consider yourself a buddhist?

Just because someone taught rightousness before another doesn't mean you "really" believe in the first.

Bhudda (Gautama) and Jesus both taught rightousness, happiness, and etc., this is the only similarity. The difference (and what's important) is how they applied this concept, applying it to two different foundations of belief.

 

[W210]

you know most of his teachings were taught 500 years earlier by Siddhārtha Gautama right? Read up Pancasila and it is almost the same teachings, but you don't consider yourself a buddhist?

And moses taught some even before that.

 

[Glockmatic]

And moses taught some even before that.

but moses went against his own teachings, Numbers 31:17-18

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man

but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

 

[Glockmatic]

So why is it that christians are so dumb and athiests are ok, even though they both require faith.

we (me and you) don't have faith that goblins exist, we don't have faith that unicorns exist, we don't have faith fairies exist, we KNOW they don't exist, but what evidence is there that they don't exist? The faith argument does not work

 

[Illuminattile]

we don't have faith fairies exist, we KNOW they don't exist

Homophobe...

 

[Glockmatic]

Homophobe...

OMG GAYS ARE DIGUSTTINNNNGGGGGGGG

 

[Duke]

^Good because it's true. If you think there is no chance, that's called ignorance. So you faith that there is no afterlife, but you really have no idea.

That's not faith....flip/flop failed.

 

[W210]

but moses went against his own teachings, Numbers 31:17-18

I dont have a Bible in front of me so I dont know what that scripture is referring too, but yea he was human so he wasnt perfect. Im sure you would agree with me that telling lies is wrong, but we have both done it. And he did disobey God which is why he was punished and not able to see the promised land.