Anyone who has non-American ancestral ties...

[Synful*Luv]

Just a question.

To anyone who has ancestry ties with a region/country/group of people who were oppressed, "discovered", beaten, killed, raped and/or robbed of their religion/language/culture....

...is that a pain that you still feel today?

I don't mean that you're mad at the people who are the descendants of the people who commited the heinous acts...just that it still troubles you or upsets you that it happened.

Some think I'm weird to be upset by what happened to the native Taino of my island by the French and Spaniard.....and i'm not mad really. But it bothers me that it did in fact happen. It bothers me that some felt it okay to wipe out an entire group of people in their own homes. It's a weird feeling that i've found it hard to explain to anyone who hasn't had a similar thing happen to their ancestors.

What about everyone else? How does the history of your ancestors effect you....if it does at all?

 

[hizzle?]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

I don't know... ASK SOFI! you Serbian bastard

 

[Synful*Luv]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

^^^^I asked you tooo :sad:

 

[Flipmo]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

Sofi... explain yourself.

 

[SonOf2pac]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

the irish were enslaved and i still feel the pain... reparations please?

 

[Bobby Sands]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

Yes ,my ancestors were oppressed by the English for years.I guess its time to move on but i get really angry when English people come over here and act as if they own the place.It does piss me off what the English did in the past and most people here hate them for it but if i meet an English person who is a nice person then i dont have a problem with them but as i said the past does annoy me.

 

[S O F I]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

My people were enslaved by the Turks for 500 years, but I don't resonate with it.

Your thread title is misleading though, I'm sure you mean "non-european" ties. America has no history or ancestry for that matter.

 

[keco52]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

I am kind of upset that my tribe is not fully federally recognized because it has French ties...Not something I think about everyday.

I don't feel like I should get special treatment because my ancestors suffered...We made it through and there's no point dwelling on the past. Nothing they say or do will change that.

 

[Flipmo]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

I am kind of upset that my tribe is not fully federally recognized because it has French ties...Not something I think about everyday.

I don't feel like I should get special treatment because my ancestors suffered...We made it through and there's no point dwelling on the past. Nothing they say or do will change that.

Your tribe? What ethnicity are you?

 

[PuffnScruff]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

i'm part native american, cherokee, but your title says un-american ancestry ties...so does that count me out?


but no. i think it is stupid to dwell on historical things they have no control over and can not change. people that do need should not reproduce. focus on the present and the future. leave the past where it is...in the past, but learn from it.

 

[keco52]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

Your tribe? What ethnicity are you?

My birth father was adopted. He was cuban and lumbee indian...as far as I know. He's dead now so it's hard to find out.

 

[Dante]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

un-american means against or counter-american.
you mean non-american, or better yet, foreign.

 

[PELLA]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

my people - The Poles - got rapped by the Nazis. Makes me mad, ya. I get a little emotional when i talk about it for 20+ min.

 

[Rukas]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

Im Polish and have a part German girlfriend and my two best friends grew up in Germany for the most part, go figure.

So no; Im even taking classes to learn the language.

 

[Preach]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

no one ever supressed my ancestors. we were the supressors

seriously though, you can't apply your current rationality to things that happened decades and centuries ago. like, you say it bothers you that someone could go into someone's home etc etc. you can't think about it like they went into someone's home and describe what happened with poetic romance because what essentially happened was they were conquering in the name of their king and did what they probably believed to be absolutely right. i don't know if you're feeling bothered as in bitter or as in sad or as in annoyed, so i don't really know what to tell you, but if you're bitter or mad, i'll tell you you can't hold a grudge for something like this. not for the people who did it and not for their descendants. it's not fair because it's like being mad cause a child who was molested daily for fiteen years thinks this is normal. times were different. it's like holding a grudge cause cavemen beat eachother with clubs. now maybe it's more like it saddens you because it was such an evil thing to do. again i will stress that times were different, and evil is basically just an illustrative word that represents everything you don't want/like. this will differ from person to person, and will make some people able to do things that other people won't. look at it like this. if you seperate every human child born from this day henceforth, and release them on a different planet or in a continent-sized zoo where they have no contact with anything human or civilized, and let them find their own way through tens of thousands of years, do you think that world would grow up to be any different from our world? what most people would think of as an evil nature is actually a part of every human being. greed, jealousy. i don't think it always was, but it is now. things like this will always happen. there will always be bad people.

i don't really get why it would upset you. give me more insight.

 

[Valeoz]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

The people who I shouldn't like are Spaniards.

Although I may be only disliking Spaniards because of the Mexican in me. But the truth is I have Spanish blood. I even know what part of Spain my family comes from. I actually don't dislike them, but I do have this urge to.

 

[Chronic]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

lumbee indian

So that explains why people ask you if you have Asian heritage. Like with Johnny Depp, once you know of the heritage you can finally put your finger on it.

I think anyone who isn't a complete scumbag is upset about people getting murdered etc. Am I more upset about my ancestors (black side descended from slaves, white side is Semitic so lots of fun history there!) being murdered than others? Nay.

 

[ill_joe]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

Yes ,my ancestors were oppressed by the English for years.I guess its time to move on but i get really angry when English people come over here and act as if they own the place.It does piss me off what the English did in the past and most people here hate them for it but if i meet an English person who is a nice person then i dont have a problem with them but as i said the past does annoy me.

Exactly. I'm Irish and I feel the same.

 

[Synful*Luv]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

My people were enslaved by the Turks for 500 years, but I don't resonate with it.

Your thread title is misleading though, I'm sure you mean "non-european" ties. America has no history or ancestry for that matter.

Nope. There are Europeans who were mistreated such as the Irish. People who have been in American for several generations and can't count their ancestry back to any specific place are American.

I am kind of upset that my tribe is not fully federally recognized because it has French ties...Not something I think about everyday.

I don't feel like I should get special treatment because my ancestors suffered...We made it through and there's no point dwelling on the past. Nothing they say or do will change that.

Understood, but this thread wasn't about if someone felt that they should get special treatment about it or not. It's just about how you personally feel about it if you stop and think it over.

 

[Synful*Luv]

Anyone who has Un-American ancestry ties...

i'm part native american, cherokee, but your title says un-american ancestry ties...so does that count me out?


but no. i think it is stupid to dwell on historical things they have no control over and can not change. people that do need should not reproduce. focus on the present and the future. leave the past where it is...in the past, but learn from it.

Doesn't count you out at all. It means that part of your ancestry comes from the Aborigine people of the area that they were from.

I didn't say that someone would "dwell" on it at all. Just when it does cross your mind....how do you feel about it. I'm in no way insinuating that people should sit around complaining about something that happened hundreds of years ago....but at the same time....should we just forget?

un-american means against or counter-american.
you mean non-american, or better yet, foreign.

Very true, sorry about the incorrect usage of the prefix. Can you fix it please?