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[THEV1LL4N]

What if I backdate my phone to the stock rom it came with and lose root? Could that solve the problem? Then would I reflash the htc rom and then cm rom? Or is it a much more complicated procedure if I lose root?

 

[Casey]

If you lost root you'd have to downgrade to a stock 1.5 firmware, regain root, and then flash the HTC and CM files. It might solve the problem, then again I don't know much about the problem you are having, and wiping it should certainly have fixed it, because that's the whole point of the wipe, starting afresh.

aside from that.....I just found this news article. Apple can go fuck themselves:

Rotten Apple: HTC sued over 20 patents – Android and Me

 

[THEV1LL4N]

such tw@s

 

[Casey]

Samsung answers Motorola with Android-powered SHW-M100S for Korea -- Engadget Mobile

You might've thought that one of the local players would've been the first to announce Android gear for South Korea, but that honor ended up going to Motorola with its MOTOROI -- so who's next up to bat? That'd be Samsung, which has unveiled its biggest, baddest Android device to date in the SHW-M100S which features a 3.7-inch WVGA AMOLED display (same as the Nexus One), 5 megapixel cam, 802.11n (yes, n!) WiFi, Android 2.1, and -- of course -- a T-DMB mobile TV tuner. It's launching next month on SKT, meaning Seoul could end up being one of the world's most interesting Google-powered battlegrounds in 2010.

LG's LU2300 set to challenge Samsung's M100S for Korean Android dominance? -- Engadget

Eternal archrivals-to-the-death Samsung and LG have a tendency to match one another tit for tat in virtually every consumer electronic category, but for whatever reason, LG's been far less interested in going for broke with Android over the past year -- though a preoccupation with Windows Phone 7 Series is a solid guess at this point. Things may be changing, though, now that we've got news out of Telecoms Korea that they're prepping a more brutal assault than the weakling GW620 could ever provide in the form of a so-called LU2300 for the domestic market (we're assuming the actual thing will be a little more... well, "designed" than the snow-white mockup above). The site is playing up LG's announcement that the phone will bundle a bunch of popular apps in ROM (awesome?) but the real news is the impressive spec sheet, which is said to include a Nexus One-like 1GHz Snapdragon and WVGA AMOLED display paired with Android 2.1 and a 5 megapixel cam capable of 720p video. It certainly sounds like it's ready to give Samsung's M100S a run for its money, but we'll need to wait until its second quarter release to know for sure.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

they look really hot. the phones do too...

 

[ARon]

Apple is suing HTC cus of multitouch

CUPERTINO, Calif. March 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — Apple® today filed a lawsuit against HTC for infringing on 20 Apple patents related to the iPhone’s user interface, underlying architecture and hardware. The lawsuit was filed concurrently with the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) and in U.S. District Court in Delaware.

We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We’ve decided to do something about it,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours.”

Apple reinvented the mobile phone in 2007 with its revolutionary iPhone®, and did it again in 2008 with its pioneering App Store, which now offers more than 150,000 mobile applications in over 90 countries. Over 40 million iPhones have been sold worldwide.

Apple sues HTC for patent infringement « Boy Genius Report

What Apple vs. HTC Could Mean
By NICK BILTON

Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images

The Google Nexus One smartphone and Apple’s iPhone.The lawsuit that Apple filed on Tuesday against HTC, the mobile handset maker, opens up a lot of questions about the future of Android phones like the Nexus One and the cellphone market in general.

But it could also have an effect on consumers, specifically those who have purchased HTC Android phones.

Jonathan Zittrain, a professor at Harvard Law School, outlines a similar case in his book “The Future of the Internet — and How to Stop It.” In 2004, TiVo sued the satellite TV distributor EchoStar, accusing the company of infringing on its patent on DVR technology. After some drawn-out litigation, TiVo ended up winning the case, and a Texas judge ordered EchoStar to disable the DVR functions on most of its set-top boxes. An appeals court is reviewing the matter.

“The judge simply ordered EchoStar to connect to the DVR boxes via the Web and destroy the functionality,” Mr. Zittrain told me in an interview. “Patent law is a completely different universe online. That means if the court were to side with Apple and issue an injunction that insists HTC kill the phone, or at least some of its functionality, they easily could.”

A ruling that would call on HTC to kill the whole phone does seem highly unlikely, especially given the prominence of the companies involved.
Stephen Lieb, an intellectual property lawyer at Frommer Lawrence & Haug, said courts had recently moved away from these kinds of injunctions. Now, he said, they take into account the effect of banning a service or product on the marketplace, and on the public interest.

“Courts are going to be very careful about crafting an injunction here,” Mr. Lieb said, “but before we even see this happen, it’s pretty likely that HTC, or even Google, will file a countersuit.”

Apple has a bigger strategy at work here. It filed its suit with the United States District Court in Delaware, but also with the United States International Trade Commission, and it could ask the commission to halt shipments of infringing HTC phones that are coming into the United States.

So why did Apple sue HTC and not Google? Mr. Zittrain believes Apple is simply going after a less powerful company first, one with much smaller pockets than Google.

“It clearly involves some form of litigation strategy of picking off the weaker members of the herd first,” Mr Zittrain said. “They can always add Google to the suit later on.”

Many lawyers I spoke with believe this case will end up being settled out of court before it goes that far.

David H. Levitt, a partner in the Chicago law office of Hinshaw & Culbertso, points to an earlier case in which Research in Motion, makers of the BlackBerry, were sued by a patent owner and lost the case. Mr. Levitt said questions arose about whether “BlackBerry owners were going to have their phones shut down as a result of R.I.M.’s patent infringement.” In the end R.I.M. settled.

“These cases can last many years, sometimes 5 or 10, and can be extremely costly,” Mr. Levitt said. “It’s much more cost effective to settle.”

Eric Von Hippel, a professor of technological innovation at M.I.T.’s Sloan School of Management, noted that “only 5 percent of these types of cases actually go through the judicial system.” Even for a company like Apple, he said, they are just too expensive.

Mr. Von Hippel also said that these lawsuits pointed to a bigger problem with the patent system. “It’s a bad scene right now. The social value of patents was supposed to be to encourage innovation — that’s what society gets out of it,” he said. “The net effect is that they decrease innovation, and in the end, the public loses out.”

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/what-apple-vs-htc-could-mean/?partner=yahoofinance


Dumb

 

[Casey]

Apple will not win. Besides, they themselves have infringed on many patents held by Nokia, Motorola and others.

They are only going after HTC as they are the youngest company involved with Android.

I'd like to see Apple try and take on Google, Motorola, Samsung, LG, Sony Ericsson.....all of whom are involved in Android. But they won't, because they'd get laughed at.

Quite frankly, Steve Jobs is delusional and this is yet MORE evidence (as if there wasn't enough) that Apple are literally shitting themselves more and more everyday over Android taking their market share.

Watch how this turns out, it's gonna be the 90's PC vs Mac all over again, with the same outcome - Apple's closed policy starts off well but ultimately fucks them over and they lose.

Except Apple is even MORE fucked this time, because not only do they themselves rely on core Google services like Google Maps and YouTube on their devices (and these legal issues could very well force them into having to use inferior services such as Bing Maps etc), but, unlike any other OS, Android is free for any hardware manufacturer to use, which obviously increases adoption, but also allows hardware partners to have a bigger profit margin.

There's simply no way Apple can win this war, not even with their (rapidly decreasing) current market share. And they know that - so they call their lawyers with these bullshit cases.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

^^ yes but the biggest task android handsets face is taking those customers with already purchased iphones (who by the way are totally convinced that the iphone is by far the best phone ever in the whole universe) away from their iphones and changing over.

how many people (who bought that one-off contract or will commit to getting every iphone) will switch over? i'd like to see these kind of stats. they need to shake their habit of following everyone else and look into things a little more - they'll go a long way if they do, which is one reason why many people eventually become dissatisfied.

some people who have the iphone may stick with that same phone for years and cannot afford to buy other phones, now the more recent android phones that are better than their outdated iphone.

 

[masta247]

Okay I had a chance to play with HTC Magic and Samsung I7500 Galaxy, compare them to the Spica and I'd like to mention what I found out. I advised my friend to get the HTC Magic as he was stuck between this and Omnia Lite (which sucks in comparison). So we replaced our phones for a day to compare.
I also bought myself a I7500 because I had a nice deal which I later sold for 20$ more.

I found out that the 528mhz Qualcomm cheap sucks balls. I thought that Samsung's 800mhz cheap in Spica isn't really much faster but it is. Everything is smooth except for some minor lags during some text inputs and I still have no idea why that happens. The Qualcomm on HTC and I7500 makes the internet browser laggy at times, menu laggy and some apps more laggy.
These lags don't occur on a Spica - at least you won't notice any noticeable lags except for some minor slow downs in rare situations.

Then the battery life - I didn't know that HTC's battery life sucks that much. I have wifi turned on all the time, GPS and autosync off and it lasts about 6-7 hours of playing with it. With HTC I was able to drain it's battery in 3 hours. I7500 is almost as good as Spica in this aspect.
The camera on i7500 despite having superior resolution and flash is not much better than i5700's. Both are much better than HTC though.
Then the screen is better in i7500 since it's AMOLED but it sucks whenever you're outdoors (it really does, it's hard to see anything).

Basically I'm really glad that I didn't go for HTC. It's definitely the worst one out of these three. It also doesn't have any audio jack, it's the biggest one and has the worst quality screen.
And battery life there really sucks.

Then between i7500 and i5700 it's hard to choose. i7500 is slightly smaller, screen seems to be better if you're using it at home and the camera is slightly better and has flash. Oh and 8bg internal memory is there.
The Spica however is noticeably faster, has divx,xvid and all other popular codecs and looks better imo with its screen being located almost in the middle instead of being in the upper part of the phone. It also gets the 2.1 update while i7500 does not, at least not in Europe. It's confirmed that they'll officially stop at 1.6.

Actually i5700 shouldn't even be called Spica as it's on par with i7500 and actually outperforms most other mid-end smartphones.
I know why it's "Spica" after I saw it near a Nexus one though lol

However hope this helps for anyone hunting for a "cheap" Android. I know it could have helped me not long ago.

 

[Casey]

I think your situation is pretty unique masta.....lol most people here live in countries where you can get an affordable deal on a Droid or Nexus One now. Spica is getting a big push here in the UK though, I've seen some advertising for it over the last few days.

It gets slaughtered in this comparison with the Nexus though LOL

Google's Nexus One is worth sending a colleague to prison for - Times Online

 

[masta247]

yeah I know, it's hard to really compare these two. However here I could buy like 3 Spicas for one Nexus One if it comes to price lol.

 

[Casey]

yeah I know, it's hard to really compare these two. However here I could buy like 3 Spicas for one Nexus One if it comes to price lol.

Yeah, I'm just saying. You can't really compare the Spica with the first generation Android phones like the Magic because those phones are over 18 months old now. Obviously it's going to be better than those. But compare it to the latest generation like Nexus One and it doesn't match up. It's caught somewhere between the two generations (if you consider the Dream/Magic as the first generation and the Droid/Nexus as the second)

 

[Flipmo]

We should set up a 'Get Masta a real phone' paypal fund. If every member gives 5 to 10$ each, he can buy a Nexus

All money should be sent to me first though, I shall then wire to him... Ahem...

 

[3en]

Quite frankly, Steve Jobs is delusional and this is yet MORE evidence (as if there wasn't enough) that Apple are literally shitting themselves more and more everyday over Android taking their market share.

Lol Apple are far from "shitting themselves"
Consider this...they are one company making ONE phone thats still shitting on wannabe iPhones running a half assed OS ripoff.

Except Apple is even MORE fucked this time, because not only do they themselves rely on core Google services like Google Maps and YouTube on their devices (and these legal issues could very well force them into having to use inferior services such as Bing Maps etc), but, unlike any other OS, Android is free for any hardware manufacturer to use, which obviously increases adoption, but also allows hardware partners to have a bigger profit margin.

Google Pays Apple $100 million for Search on iPhone.
Google Pays Apple $100 Million for iPhone Search

Actually Google pays Apple a lot of money to have Google as the default search engine in Safari on OSX and Google services (maps Safari, youtube) on the iPhone.

Why does Apple have to lose for Google to be successful? Your hate for Apple is pathetic lol.

There's simply no way Apple can win this war, not even with their (rapidly INCREASING) current market share.

Fixed.

 

[Casey]

Lol Apple are far from "shitting themselves"
Consider this...they are one company making ONE phone thats still shitting on wannabe iPhones running a half assed OS ripoff.

You have no clue. If Apple were not running scared they would not have:

1. Denied Google Voice from the App Store and then lied to the FCC about the reasons why.
2. Jobs would not have gone on a big angry rant about Google at their recent employee conference
3. They would not be filing stupid hypocritical lawsuits against HTC that they will never win.
4. They would not be considering teaming up with Microsoft to use Bing.

Google Pays Apple $100 million for Search on iPhone.

Actually Google pays Apple a lot of money to have Google as the default search engine in Safari on OSX and Google services (maps Safari, youtube) on the iPhone.

LOL, once again you have NO clue. I suggest that you do the following:

1. Research how much money Google make from each user of their services.
2. Multiply it by the amount of iPhone/Mac users on the planet.
3. Realize that that amount is a LOT more than $100 million dollars, lol

Your hate for Apple is pathetic lol.

Not as pathetic as your blind fanboyism. Now get the fuck out of my thread and go participate in the Apple one....oh wait nobody posts in there cos nobody cares.

 

[Casey]

Adobe Offers Android Developers Free Photoshop.com Mobile Editor, “Unlike iPhone”

 

[Casey]

The HTC Legend looks dope as fuck. Love that chrome.

Loads more pics and video here:

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-legend-video-unboxing-0576838/

 

[THEV1LL4N]

nice...

^^ casey, you are a huge contributor to my thread. thank you.

 

[masta247]

yeah it looks good. Actually I'm hoping that someday soon almost the whole front of phones' panels will be occupied by big displays since I don't like these wasted spaces but that one on legend looks stylish.

 

[3en]

You have no clue. If Apple were not running scared they would not have:

1. Denied Google Voice from the App Store and then lied to the FCC about the reasons why.
2. Jobs would not have gone on a big angry rant about Google at their recent employee conference
3. They would not be filing stupid hypocritical lawsuits against HTC that they will never win.
4. They would not be considering teaming up with Microsoft to use Bing.

1. Yea, Im sure iPhone users everywhere are switching to android because they cant use Google voice :*(
2. Proof? other than hearsay
3. They are protecting their IP nothing wrong with that. Apple wouldn't sue HTC without very high confidence in their legal position.
4. Again little proof of this.

LOL, once again you have NO clue. I suggest that you do the following:

1. Research how much money Google make from each user of their services.
2. Multiply it by the amount of iPhone/Mac users on the planet.
3. Realize that that amount is a LOT more than $100 million dollars, lol

Thats not the point, the point is Google would be fucking stupid to pull support for the iPhone, And Apple would be stupid to not include Google search. The point you cant seem to grasp is them working together because its in both their best interests business wise and for the consumer.

Google wants to be the new Microsoft and hopefully a much better one. Apple have a completely different strategy and always have. Androids not taking market share from iPhone, its taking it from Windows mobile and palm etc.

Again I ask why does Apple have to lose for Google to win?

Not as pathetic as your blind fanboyism. Now get the fuck out of my thread and go participate in the Apple one....oh wait nobody posts in there cos nobody cares.

Lol, c'mon YOU are the biggest fanboy on here. Creating a "what do you use from Google" thread? really?. At least I can see it from both sides and be objective. You get so wound up with anybody that challenges your (weak) arguments, sorry I thought this was a discussion forum???

Oh and this is not your thread you clown Sandeep started it and I wanted to contribute to a discussion with the four people that post in "your" thread.