Adoption rights for unmarried couples

[Butt Rubber]

get married, THEN you can adopt kids

nobody wants to be an adopted bastard

 

[Sebastian]

If couples who cannot have children because of health reasons can adopt a child I see no reason why a same sex couple can't. They'll go through the same processes as any other person. Its not hard to do, people just complicate it because they think homosexuals are so different from us when they're really not at all

no, i meant generally to prove if someone is able to raise a child properly. thats hard to figure out. i wasnt talking about same sex couples or anything.

Marriage is a legal union of man and woman, and in some countries, man and man. Although religion plays part in marriage, and especially in wedding ceremonies, religion does not cause marriage, so to speak.

my fault, i forgot you can get married at the registry office as well.

 

[Illuminattile]

I don't know. I'm unsure on my stance on both.

If they are committed enough to adopt a child why are they not prepared to get married to show that committment to the world. If you want the rights of a married couple then you should get married. And that is coming from someone who isn't a fan of marriage. I just think if you are going to adopt a kid, you should be prepared to show you are committed to your partner. Otherwise they should make it easier for single people to adopt too.

Not everyone 'believes' in marriage. You don't need that piece of paper to show how committed you are to one another.

And I'm undecided on the gay part too. It isn't natural, and you can't argue with that.

Depends on what you mean by "natural". Homosexuality occurs in nature, doesn't that make it natural?

Besides, what's to say that unnatural things are wrong? A lot of what we humans do is unnatural.

 

[Pittsey]

Not everyone 'believes' in marriage. You don't need that piece of paper to show how committed you are to one another.

I don't believe in Marriage either. But to prove that I was prepared to offer a kid a stable future I'd do it. Although I admit my argument is pretty flimsy. I just say prove your relationship is steady, and marriage seems the easiest way.

And if not, make adoption easier for single couples. Couldn't a single professional make a good parent too?

Depends on what you mean by "natural". Homosexuality occurs in nature, doesn't that make it natural?

Besides, what's to say that unnatural things are wrong? A lot of what we humans do is unnatural.

It's not natural because a woman is needed for child birth.

A friend of mine has a gay dad. She turned out fine. But her brother who was younger at the time of his lifestyle change was hit harder and has a lot of psychological and social problems that come from it.

 

[Illuminattile]

I don't believe in Marriage either. But to prove that I was prepared to offer a kid a stable future I'd do it. Although I admit my argument is pretty flimsy. I just say prove your relationship is steady, and marriage seems the easiest way.

In what way does marriage prove your relationship is stable?

And if not, make adoption easier for single couples. Couldn't a single professional make a good parent too?

Single couples?

It's not natural because a woman is needed for child birth.

Just because two homosexuals can't procreate doesn't mean it's unnatural for them to be in a relationship.

 

[RFTP]

This thread has 2 issues to be discussed. Pick ur god damn issue and stick to it. I don't even know whether I should reply about gay-adoption or about unmarried couple having babies :S.

 

[Illuminattile]

This thread has 2 issues to be discussed. Pick ur god damn issue and stick to it. I don't even know whether I should reply about gay-adoption or about unmarried couple having babies :S.

Don't feel inclined to reply about either.

 

[7 Syns]

I think they are trying to look at it from the child's position. Potential adoptive parents are severly scrutinized to ensure a safe and stable environment for children. That way a child may be placed somewhere that they will be loved and cared for. And if same sex parents can provide that, it should be encouraged with the full fledged support of society. That kind of scrutiny is a better deal than a hell of a lot of other children get... if only all potential parents were 'screened' - perhaps there would be less neglect, abuse or just plain dysfunction in the home.

Good point.

Repped.

peace.

 

[Sebastian]

Single couples?

lol

Just because two homosexuals can't procreate doesn't mean it's unnatural for them to be in a relationship.

but its unnatural for them to have a child!?

 

[Illuminattile]

but its unnatural for them to have a child!?

It's unnatural for any couple to have a child that isn't theirs. Adoption is unnatural, surrogacy is unnatural, artificial insemination is unnatural. Infertile couples don't face the same opposition as gay couples, so it's clearly not an problem for couples to have children through unnatural, non-traditional means. Gay couples are specifically singled out.

 

[Pittsey]

In what way does marriage prove your relationship is stable?

It doesn't. But the fact someone won't get married means to me that they are less comitted. I said it was a bit ropey, but is there a better way to measure?

Single couples?

lol. I think you could guess at what I meant.

Just because two homosexuals can't procreate doesn't mean it's unnatural for them to be in a relationship.

I never said it was unnatural for them to have a relationship. I said it wasn't natural for 2 men to have children.

Although when you look at it from a nature point of view, a gay relationship isn't natural, relationships are supposed to be about reproduction. But we have evolved from that, so I wouldn't say it was unnatural.



I have nothing against gay people. I just would prefer to be in a foster home than have 2 dads, or 2 mums.

 

[Illuminattile]

I have nothing against gay people. I just would prefer to be in a foster home than have 2 dads, or 2 mums.

I bet 99% of kids in foster homes would rather be in a stable family environment.

 

[Pittsey]

I bet they wouldn't.

^^ It's very easy to makean assumption, you did it, and now I have. But it depends on the person. I know a few people who've been foster kids. And I know people who foster kids now. It's not all bad. And a lot of these kids don't need to give others at school more ammunition.

 

[Flipmo]

I have nothing against gay people. I just would prefer to be in a foster home than have 2 dads, or 2 mums.

Same here.