A Whole Lotta Unknown Hip Hop Facts

ChrisZimbo

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-LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee came to blows one night backstage.

-Freddie Foxxx put a gun in Benzino's mouth on the Flavor Unit tour bus, because Benzino would not stop talking shit about what a thug he was

-"The bridge is over" was a Marley Marl beat that Krs One and Scott La Rock found in a studio.

-2pac was robbed and shot by some of Supreme's boys.

-"I got a story to tell" was vaguelly based on a real life incident Biggie had when he was slipping pipe to John Starks' woman.

-Paul C was murdered by his wife and his brother.

-Showbiz has almost been sent upstate for attempted murder twice.

-Big Pun hit Jay Z over the head with a bottle in a club.

-Eric. B beat down Large Professor and ran Kool G. Rap out of New York to Arizona after 'G. Rap revealed Large Pro produced most of the beats Eric B was supposed to have done on the Eric B. & Rakim albums and "wanted dead or alive".

-Biz Markie produced most of EPMD's first album.

-Ghostface, Superb and their team beat down and robbed 50 Cent and Tony Yayo after 50's dis tracks.

-Johnny Juice did all Terminator X's cuts on the Public Enemy albums.

Kool Keith met Godfather Don outside some industry event that both of them weren't allowed entry to. They snuck in through a back window and then hung out for the next month or so recording the 'Don produced tracks on "the 4 horsemen" and, of course, all the classic Cenobites tracks.

-Just Ice was a prime suspect in a murder case.

-Just Ice turned up in Queens on Poet's block after the two Rockwell Noel & The Poet tracks dissing Krs One, Red Alert and Ms. Melodie with a shotgun and waited for Poet to come out. Needless to say, Poet stayed in the crib that day.

-DJ Ready Red was kicked out of Geto Boys and shafted by J. Prince because of his lack of melanin.

-Alpo, Fritz, the original 50 Cent from Ft Greene and various other notorious hustlers/killers from the legendary Paid In Full Posse were in the crew shots on "paid in full" and "follow the leader".

-Rakim recorded a dis cut aimed at 'Kane for "let the rhythm hit 'em" and had a verse on the title track itself aimed at him. 'Kane heard about this and called Rakim to squash it and Rakim went on to scrap the track and remove the verse.

-Eric B. did security for Mike Tyson throughout much of the 90's.

-Diamond D and his old late 80's group Ultimate Force with Master Rob recorded a full album with Jazzy Jay which has never been heard.

-A young Fat Joe and his boys Tony Montana(R.I.P) and Charlie Rock L.D were one of the top two crack crews in the Bronx in the mid 80's and bringing in thousands of $$$$ per day.

-Q Tip got fucked up so bad by one of the members of Wrexx N Effect that he lost partial sight in one of his eyes. ****EDIT***^^^^^very true^^^^^

****(-If you ever wondered why Q Tip wore a mask in the video for "Hot Sex", this is why. There was also some intervention by a neutral party to squash this beef between Wrecks N Effect and Tribe.)****


-Nas came incredibly close to being on the Large Pro produced Kool G Rap, Xtra P, Freddie Foxxx and Ant posse cut "money in the bank" as he was always hangin' around Eric B.'s studio but had gone to pick up some weed with a chick so they let the Ant kid on there instead.

- Main Source (sans Large Pro) ran up in the Wild Pitch offices with machetes looking to behead MC Serch (then working as an A&R for the label) after a West Coast promotional tour went sour. MC Serch got wind that they were coming and escaped by crawling over the partial walls for his office and jetting out the back door.

- Grimm was supposed to be on "Live at the Barbecue" but he was arrested on the way to the studio.

-Rza and Killah Sin and another fam member went to see 50 perform after How To Rob and 50 got wind of them being there and dipped backstage and didn't perform, I have heard this one several times.

-Redman Smacked Prodigy around the time Hell On Earth was out b/c he was dissing Keith and Def Squad.

-A member of Wu got jumped at Suge's club in Las Vegas and Pac didn't like the way it went down and told Suge to squash the beef and he agreed outta respect.

*****EDIT*****I thought it was keith that snuffed P out in front of his people at the Tunnel.(shrugs)

-When Nas came to Boston around 94/95 somebody in RSO Crew (possibly Benzino) walked up to Nas and sonned him by knocking his baseball cap off of his head.

-Freddie Foxxx went to Landspeed records like 200 deep in order to get the money they owed him.

-Kool Herc was shot around 78 or something.

-Grandmaster Caz wrote Rappers Delight.

-Pharrel use to carry records around for Teddy Riley.

-Benzino forced Mays to give him part ownership of the source. There are legends of Benzino and his people tying up Mays in his own closet.

-Benzino actually one of the main reasons why Boston had such a small homicide rate in the late 90's, the Feds put UC's on every block and had a lot crazy @#%$ going on so Benzino got a lot of the heads of the bigger gangs together to unite so that not everyone get locked up. That saw the murder lessen and the Boston police taken credit for "doing away with crime in a big city".

-Freddie Foxxx did put Benzino in check on tour with the Flava Unit. Benzino was acting up and Foxxx pulled something out.

-The entire city of Boston was blacklisted back in the day by the industry due to crowds and Boston rappers and thugs attending shows just to cause problems. Every rapper from Audio Two to Biggie had either a bottle smashed across their head on stage or their show cancelled due to a shooting. To this day very few rappers do shows in the Boston hoods because of it.

-MF Grimm was not only suppose to be on Live at the BBQ, but his joint with Kool G Rap or 4, 5, 6 was suppose to be the lead single but he was arrested again and G Rap went with the joint with Nas.

-Grimm also admitted that he came in third at the World Supremecy battle in 93, losing to SuperNat who won but that he was also involved in a shooting earlier in the day.

-Mf Grimm was held on trial for the murder of a cop.

-Everyone in CashMoney has done at least 2 years in prison I believe.

-A boston beatboxer by the name of A-Train is said to have beaten BizMarkie, Dana Dane, and K-solo in a battle back in 88.

-Jay-z was told by Scarface to change Reasonable Doubt because he actually named names of dealers.

-Fat Joe gave Guru a place to live for awhile.

-Guru didnt leave boston in the best of terms which is why the early of stages of his carrear boston did not play a big part. Gang Starr originally started in Boston and had a few emcees in it. Guru left for NY and took the name without people knowing.

-Rakim was still in high school when paid in full dropped.

-JT the bigga Figga returned Nas chain to him when it got stolen in cali

-suge beating the shit out of snoop's/ dre homies cause they were using that phone that harry o had an exclusive phone line... and the dudes saying saying to suge "hey we roll wit dr. dre"! first sign of dre holding no weight

-LL Cool J was cool with Alpo and many other rappers had drug ties then.

-Tupac did have some of his enemies killed.

-Eazy-E was from a very middle class family so was Ice cube they weren't thugs

-Some people in Death Row got raped in the building.

-Suge doesnt like game because he expose some of Death Row business (stuff about Harry-O) and because he is not really blood.
 

ChrisZimbo

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-The reason Sheek wasn't around much after LOX split from Bad boy cause he was clearing up cases he had.

-The real reason Mase left hip hop & Harlem is because of heavy extortion, not an epiphany from god


Eddie Murphy lets Johnny gill sleep in his bathhouse to this day because he's broke

Jaheim is in fact ***, i hear he was spotted in atlanta arguing with his boyfriend over dropping his purse or something in the middle of the street

FACT: as if i had to tell u, i hear from an insider source that Queen Latifah is certified 100% les, she just hasent announced it yet

FACT: ghostface killa has a brother still living in staten island, poor, with hardly a pot to piss in, and no support from his well off brother, its true 'cause i used to kno him, names Brian

Kanye West produced some of THE best hits for bad boy back in the day and Deric D-Dot Angeletti was taking all the credit for production because kanye was under him-i heard this many times

I heard Lil kim's on/off boyfriend is a hardened killer and tried to take out sombody in jersey i forget who, i think 50 cent

Artists who i heard were robbed, most robbed more than twice
Busta Rymes
jazze phae
Nas
Dr. Dre
Shyheim from the wu
Mase(to the 20th power) got yapped for his chain at a knick game
Puff
Jermaine Dupri
camron(still my man tho)
stephon marbury got his chain yapped while takin a nap in his car in NY
Allen iverson's been robbed many times
i hear young buck did get his gunit chain yapped in chicago
DMX, i heard its all a front for image
of course Ja Rule and Irv, but i heard irv's brother holds massive weight
50's hood but i hear he has NO thorough backup
Snoop lost his juice, but is backed by the crips only because he makes songs to crip to.
Jadakiss

Artists i heard were thorough and why
Styles p- one news story i heard is that somebody tried to rob him back during the free the lox campaign, shot the man DEAD and got off on self defense

Cormega-I've heard for YEARS this cat has shit on lock in some places in brooklyn and queens

Ghostface & Cappadonna- Reason ghostface wore a mask in the early days is because he was wanted for robbery when the wu 1st blew up, Cappadonna owned some drug houses here on Staten island for a little while after he got money, i dont know if they're still in business

Fat Joe- i dont know any real stories but i hear things

Game-only what i hear from HIS camp, he's been shot 5 times in the chest they say.

Cashmoney CEO's SLIM and Baby Williams have a brother who's LEGENDARY in new orleans, now serving 500 some odd years in jail for various murders, this is true, they do have a bro in jail who is hardcore and a lifer

-Nas is in fact not from Queens Bridge Projects, but from Staten Island in the burbs. REAL QB thugs despise him and put on underground diss tracks to him ALL the time.
^^^TRUTH^^^

* Jay - z was slapped in the a** and called a B**** by a well known gangsta on a video shoot in Philly

* When 2pac first started doing shows in Chicago the GD's made him take his hat off because he had it broke to the left (stone/blood do this)

* Young buck was with a crew of 8 people when he was robbed by 2 people in Chicago. All of them ran and left YB. He was set up by somebody that said whas up to him in the club b4 it let out and Young Buck didnt show respect. The piece is floating around the chi right now, it has been through several hands already.

* Kanye West was a suuuuuper lame when he attended Chi State University. A lot of people thought he was ***.

* T.I. was slapped in the face by Cormega in front of some bad ass chicks for titling his album Urban Legend after Mega had already done so.
 

ChrisZimbo

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Ice Cube as well. He got beat for one of those "W" chains supposedly by someone from the Soul Assassins camp when him and B-Real were beefin.

Have you ever heard Eminem claim that he pulled a gun out on ICP?

Well he pulled a gun out on their road manager, trying to prove something I guess, well the shit was unloaded, and supposedly he was nervous and his hands were shaking so hard he dropped it.


the only reason purple haze was pushed back so long is because frekey zekey was in jail and couldnt do the s***s



heres some bay gossip

e-40 and mac dre were beefin over a girl..its rumored that the two bay legends funk came when a dude from mac dres neighborhood the country club crest, took 40's girl and 40 beat the dude down fro disrespecting his brother. thats why to this day hillside and crest side dont get along...they each made several diss songs before squashing the beef--the hoods havent.

the luniz aint hard but east oakland respects that they went major and still rep the town so they got thier back

as stated earlier posts the game isnt welcomed in the bay--bay artists--but his 15 year old fans would show up

master p was ran out the bay because he didnt help none of the people that introduced him to the game. or had his back.

c-bo is in jail for shootin his baby momma--true fact

luniz and too short beef is because too short wouldnt let them be part of the dangerous crew


suge knight paid that cat $5000 dollars to assault dr dre at the vibe awards specifically during his lifetime acheivement award segment

reason why the diplomats got into the liquor business is because cam bought 3 liquor stores with confessions of fire money, he learned the in & outs & now sizzurp is blowin up

cam'rons dad used to be a singer in a old time group, i forgot the name but ive seen the album cover,kinda looks like him

sean paul is not allowed within 100 feet of beyonce or jigga 'cause during the shotting for baby boy,sean paul tried to scoop beyonce by dissin her man sayin somethin alomg the lines of

"get wit a cute ninja like you deserve"

50 cent tried the same thing too

its rumored that singer houston really didnt try to kill himself, it was a cover up for something muuuch deeper........................


50 cent & ja rule's beef never started be4 they were famous, they didnt even kno each other, real reason's because ja was rollin with his posse one day just after he got famous, saw 50 cent rollin alone (after how to rob) started talkin sh*t so 50 clapped him dead in his eye, this was before ja poked him with a knife

ghost face and capodona

ran in to one of 50's boys (ZOO) at a block party in staten island
d.p from killah army took zoos watch because he was talking to his girl
and they stomped him out

few monnths later 50 seen ghost at def jam and they exchanged words
and then 50 put out that diss track

thats how that beef started

pete rock was nailing nas' baby momma and nas got wind of this and thats why they dont work together anymore

dmx got his chain jacked in toronto on a movie shoot

eric b use to do bodyguard work for suge

dj premier stopped workin wit jeru the damaja...cuz jeru got pissed when premier was #$%^&* his sister...

ghostface said on tony's money "this what happens when u dont give ninjas they fuckin money" in response to de la soul for not paying him for the track he was on he also jacked their beat lol

superb while in jail supposedly wrote all the rhymes for every ghostface album after ironman...lyin muthafucka...

littles jacked alchemist chain at a recording studio?

someone got jacked at a soul assasins studio session while gza was their and everyone but gza was forced to strip lol nobodys messin wit the W

-Big Pun hit Jay Z over the head with a bottle in a club.
^^ my friend jayson was there, he cosigns this, this is where the fat joe/hova "animosity" started

Jigga was on stage a lil tipsy with the mic and pun and joe came up to rock and hova didnt want to get off.. said some slick shit to joey and pun and Pun cracked him with a bottle of bacardi. PUN speaks on it in "100%" if you listen to the lyrics.

SMALL DISAGREEMENT ^^^^^

jay-z did snuff fat joe and did get hit wit a bottle after snuffin fat joe, but after gettin hit wit the bottle pun and joe left quick, it was about to be over for dem cuz hov was strapped, then lance got stabbed, jay didnt do it, but he aint no snitch so he copped a plea, to this day fat joe hates jay, "dont even talk about the rucker"- fat joe's team has won at the rucker, jays team didnt show, "im the proud new owner of the nets, no diploma no regrets, dont even talk about no rucker motherfu*ker i am set"-jay-z, fat joe is yet to respond, and if u listen to the mind right remix jay-z, memphis bleek, h money, and beans, jay is talkin to pun and joe.-just the facts.

Ol Dirty Bastard and LL Cool J were supposed to work together. Then, when they were in the studio, ODB pissed on one of L's platinum plaques (he was drunk, surprise, surprise) and LL threw him out.

Master P tied up and pistol whipped Pimp C after UGK were running around and telling everyone how P didn't pay them for their guest appearances
 

ChrisZimbo

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ane & Slick Rick came to blows backstage at the Run's House tour in 88(i think). (Providence RI) Fight lasted about 1 minute before Vance Wright broke it up.

Freddie Foxxx was originally gonna be Eric B.'s rapper not Rakim

Mc Hammer found out 3rd Bass was coming to Cali, and ordered someone to merk them

Outlaws had beef with Capone and Noreaga, but was squashed later

Wyclef was close friends with Haitian Jack, the notorius gangster accused of sniching on tupac about the rape case,why?

"Tupac blamed Jacques Agnant AKA Haitian Jack for setting him up in the sexual assault trial. Tupac got the maximum penalty while Haitian Jack got 3 months suspended sentence. It was roumoured that Haitian Jack was a Federal informant. pac shouts him out in Makaveli-Against all odds "

play that track & he tells the story




Stretch of the Live Squad

Tupac fell out with Stretch after the robbing & shooting at the recording studio because he became close to Badboy going to Biggies concerts. Stretch was murdered execution style in Jamaica one year to the day after the Tupac shooting.

According to Marley Marl, him and Cormega had already finished a whole album ready for release before Nas was due to release illmatic. It eventually fell through as Mega was sent to jail.

- Das EFX stole their iggedy style from UK hiphop outfit Demon Boyz while on tour with EPMD.

-Eric B had Large Professor beaten down on one occasion for Xtra P talking sh!t about not getting production credits and because he thought he was gettin' at him on "snake eyes".


p Diddy was a back up dancer for Kane & heavy d sometimes

Russell and Puffy had a fall-out due to an argument that Puff & Kimora had at a club. (it got real ugly)

YZ puts hands on treach so Treach boys jumped him. Yz then went for a chainsaw.

Treach (naught by nature)has done Porn movies and is Pepas (salt n pepa)babydaddy


When Nas came to Boston around 94/95 somebody in RSO Crew walked up to Nas and sonned him by knocking his baseball cap off of his head.




SUPPOSEDLY, IN RETALIATION OLU DARA SLAPPED BENZINO'S FATHER AND SAID (I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS) 'WHAT THE FUCC IS WRONG WITH YOUR FAMILY?' EVERYONE WAS SHOCKED BUT AFTER THAT THEIR SONS MET UP AND SQUASHED THE BEEF.

Kool G Rap signed a contract with Rawkus worth more than a million dollars

All of the DJ work on Paid In Full that was NOT done by Marley Marl it was done by Rakim, not Eric B.

If you listen to Many Men, at the beginning if you count the gun shots, there are only 8 instead of 9.

memphis bleek is not fake as everybody thinks, he actually sold drugs, he was actually pushin weight when he met jay, before the rap shit started poppin off jay made him stop because he was only 15, bleeks boy got gunned down over a dice game and bleek adopted his daughter.

In bedstuy and bushwick, big and jay had some famous battles in the street, and in their high school, big always said jay won because jay rapped to fast, jay also battled busta in their high school, lil kim also attended that school.

Before reasonable doubt, Jay-Z and Jaz-O ran into LL cool J at a club, LL recognized Jaz and they spoke, Jay approached and asked to battle, LL didnt back down, Jay won the friendly battle, thats why LL to this day never takes offense when jay calls himself the best rapper alive, or best rapper dead or alive, when LL claims goat.

Joe Budden was put on anti depressants, was addicted to angel dust, was stabbed by his babys mother, locked up numerous times, dude named joshua tried to kill him twice, pulled the gun twice, gun jamed twice, joe budden was in his hummer and they beat joshua down then took him to the precint.
Joe budden owns numerous cars, including a hummer, and ferrari, but chooses to drive his 93 toyota corolla wit factory rims. Joe budden is not broke as many people think, he doesnt make any money off of album sales, but he is probably the smartest rapper around right now, he owns his publishing, which means millions of pump it up dollars.

Most of Wu Tang used to be angel-dust heads.

U-God has beef with the Rza over Money

Biggie was not the playa he claimed to be, he never started gettin women until he got money, his bm looks like a man.

Song Cry was a real song about Jay-Z's longtime girlfriend

Trick Daddy was jumped and got his chain snatched at a show in Detroit for dissing Trick Trick a local Detroit rapper cause he thought he stole his name.

2pac had relationships with a few celebrities on the low, Jada Pinkett and Quincy Jones's daughter to name some.

Ice Cube isint from Compton and went to a college in Arizona, he was never a gangsta.

Xzibit is from Alberquerque, New Mexico.

Scarface tried to commit suicide when he was younger.

Three 6 Mafia used to be called Triple Six Mafia and made songs about worshipping the devil, but were forced to change their name when they signed to Reletivity.

B.I.G. had some of his dudes run up in D&D studios and beat down Starang Wondah then had them put the phone to his ear while B.I.G. proceeded to tell him never to fu*k with him again. This was in retaliation for OGC's first video where they had a fake Biggie get beat down.

Starang admitted it on Heltah Skeltah's "I Ain't Havin That"
"like when i was up in D&D i caught 2 or 3 stitches / i was still gettin bi*ches at the tunnel takin pictures"

AZ supposedly fucked lil kim & foxy brown, tupac was known to be boning jada pinkett & quincy jones daughter

game claims he caught his 1st body on march 4 1994

its rumored that fat joe personally buck fifty'ed cuban link

fat joe writes 25% of his lyrics he has a team of ghostwriters

-i heard also fab fucked up ali vegas up on a one on one
same with stack bundles did vic damone

-i heard that ali helpd smurf get outta jail

fat joe got knocked out @ mansion by sum zoe pound ninja joe tried tryin to defend busta and wen dude tried to snatch his chain they hands got cuttup on the t.s moons on joes chain , same time busta got hit

Vanilla Ice was beat up by suge and hung out his balcony and forced to drink piss.. All because Suge wanted the royalties to Ice Ice Baby.

Killah Priest was supposed to have the guest spot on Mystery of Chessboxin' from Enter the Wu-Tang, but he passed out in the studio and RZA just got Masta Killa to spit a verse.
 

Shot 21

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Thanks for that info although I know some of its bullshit.

-Tupac did have some of his enemies killed.
More info on that please. Like who and how do you know this?
 

Preach

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^^
yup. he was a rapper, not a godfather.

i was wondering if anyone could tell me more about c-bo being in jail, i didn't know lol. and wasn't it shyheim that got beat at club 662 in vegas?
 
#16
nice like hearing bout ghost handling his business with 50, ghost is a big dude, a lot of people see him as below average or normal height.....smart dumb cats
 

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