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Oh and to anyone worried about the G2 processor, because of the architecture of the processor, the 800MhZ Scorpion is actually faster than the 1GhZ Snapdragon processors and the Texas Instruments processor in the Droid-2 and Droid-X.
The scores it got on all tests rank the G2 speed and power level equal to the Galaxy S, which is definitely impressive.
The GPU in the new Scorpion processor is 4x more powerful than the Snapdragon, and the chip is much more efficient, resulting in more work per clock cycle and much improved battery performance.
Regardless, it'll hit 1GhZ like a champ when rooted and overclocked anyway. (and with Cyanogen getting one of these, this thing will most likely get rooted before it's even out lol)
Close ups of the keyboard:
I'm definitely impressed with the "www./.com" button which will come in VERY handy, and those buttons with the white squares on them can apparently be set to launch any app.
I'd probably set one for voice actions, one for Twitter (pop keyboard, hit button, start writing tweet), and I'm not sure about the third. Maybe SMS. It would make sense to have those buttons trigger apps where I'd be using the keyboard.
The scores it got on all tests rank the G2 speed and power level equal to the Galaxy S, which is definitely impressive.
The GPU in the new Scorpion processor is 4x more powerful than the Snapdragon, and the chip is much more efficient, resulting in more work per clock cycle and much improved battery performance.
Regardless, it'll hit 1GhZ like a champ when rooted and overclocked anyway. (and with Cyanogen getting one of these, this thing will most likely get rooted before it's even out lol)
Close ups of the keyboard:
I'm definitely impressed with the "www./.com" button which will come in VERY handy, and those buttons with the white squares on them can apparently be set to launch any app.
I'd probably set one for voice actions, one for Twitter (pop keyboard, hit button, start writing tweet), and I'm not sure about the third. Maybe SMS. It would make sense to have those buttons trigger apps where I'd be using the keyboard.
LOL I just heard that the Samsung Fascinate (Verizon Galaxy S) comes pre-loaded with Bing as the search engine and you can't replace it with Google!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Total Verizon fail!!!! This phone needs root FAST to deal with that abomination.
I mean, seriously, BING? LMFAO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Total Verizon fail!!!! This phone needs root FAST to deal with that abomination.
I mean, seriously, BING? LMFAO
the keyboard looks really good. can you believe i only realised a few months ago that the G1 keyboard has two '@' buttons. i always pressed the alt + 2 combination for a whole year lol.
i hope the G2 has that feature as i find it helps save time. if only it were a 5-row keyboard also, because i quite like the idea of having keys unique to just number functions.
The shift arrow buttons seem to waste a bit of space, there could be something else there.
i prefer the G1 keyboard (from what i can see and compare to the G2 with), but the G2 should be a better quality one. my G1 spacebar is kinda jammed, and so are the shift and alt buttons. it is sooo frustrating, especially when ive taken so much care of it. i dont know how general wear and tear could be so bad. i do 90% of the time use the keyboard though.
TechRadar says the G2 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM7230 CPU:
T-Mobile G2: US gets HTC Desire Z early? | News | TechRadar UK
the only thing with me getting this phone is that i HAVE to upgrade with t-mobile. i cannot move to O2 and get £125 off the contract, which i why i was open to moving to O2 and get the Galaxy S.
I shall see the pricing and see whether i want to keep my G1 for a bit longer and also what deals t-mobile offer me - hopefully something really good.
they said that the G1 was one of the devices that were more difficult to brick, i hope its the same case with the G2.
i hope the G2 has that feature as i find it helps save time. if only it were a 5-row keyboard also, because i quite like the idea of having keys unique to just number functions.
The shift arrow buttons seem to waste a bit of space, there could be something else there.
i prefer the G1 keyboard (from what i can see and compare to the G2 with), but the G2 should be a better quality one. my G1 spacebar is kinda jammed, and so are the shift and alt buttons. it is sooo frustrating, especially when ive taken so much care of it. i dont know how general wear and tear could be so bad. i do 90% of the time use the keyboard though.
TechRadar says the G2 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM7230 CPU:
T-Mobile G2: US gets HTC Desire Z early? | News | TechRadar UK
the only thing with me getting this phone is that i HAVE to upgrade with t-mobile. i cannot move to O2 and get £125 off the contract, which i why i was open to moving to O2 and get the Galaxy S.
I shall see the pricing and see whether i want to keep my G1 for a bit longer and also what deals t-mobile offer me - hopefully something really good.
they said that the G1 was one of the devices that were more difficult to brick, i hope its the same case with the G2.
I thought the same before about 5-row keyboards, but I actually checked out a 4-row keyboard on a WinMo HTC device and it didn't really make any difference so I'm cool with it.
Also, because the G2 keyboard stretches across the whole width of the device unlike the G1, the keys are bigger, which is nice.
That's strange. I've had my G1 a lot longer than you have and there's no wear and tear at all, except for on the paint where it has chipped in a few places and the little cover thing that covered up the USB port which fell off a while back. There's nothing wrong with my keyboard at all.
TechRadar is wrong, it's a Scorpion chip, not a Snapdragon.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/02/tmobile-scoop-confirms-g2-800-mhz-scorpion-processor/
As explained, the Scorpion architecture is far superior to the Snapdragon. The main difference is that the Snapdragon uses integrated graphics whereas the Scorpion has a dedicated Adreno 205 GPU.
Look at the OpenGL scores:
HTC Vision is the G2, and this test was on a pre-production model.
As you can see, outperforming the Galaxy S (Captivate).
Make no mistake - this is a high-end device.
No front-facing camera is a minor annoyance.
Frankly - nobody I know with iPhone 4's, HTC Evo's or Galaxy S's is even using it.
Hell, my wife's Nokia N95 had a front-facing camera three years ago and she never used it, not even once.
I don't like this whole attitude of "Oh, Apple's doing it so it must be worth doing". It's a "Keeping up with the Joneses" attitude when frankly we all know Android and the high-end hardware running Android is superior, regardless of a front-facing camera.
Also, because the G2 keyboard stretches across the whole width of the device unlike the G1, the keys are bigger, which is nice.
That's strange. I've had my G1 a lot longer than you have and there's no wear and tear at all, except for on the paint where it has chipped in a few places and the little cover thing that covered up the USB port which fell off a while back. There's nothing wrong with my keyboard at all.
TechRadar is wrong, it's a Scorpion chip, not a Snapdragon.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/02/tmobile-scoop-confirms-g2-800-mhz-scorpion-processor/
As explained, the Scorpion architecture is far superior to the Snapdragon. The main difference is that the Snapdragon uses integrated graphics whereas the Scorpion has a dedicated Adreno 205 GPU.
Look at the OpenGL scores:
HTC Vision is the G2, and this test was on a pre-production model.
As you can see, outperforming the Galaxy S (Captivate).
Make no mistake - this is a high-end device.
No front-facing camera is a minor annoyance.
Frankly - nobody I know with iPhone 4's, HTC Evo's or Galaxy S's is even using it.
Hell, my wife's Nokia N95 had a front-facing camera three years ago and she never used it, not even once.
I don't like this whole attitude of "Oh, Apple's doing it so it must be worth doing". It's a "Keeping up with the Joneses" attitude when frankly we all know Android and the high-end hardware running Android is superior, regardless of a front-facing camera.
I for one just want to be able to utilize a front facing cam, I'll actually use it. I skype with my fam in Cali and Hawaii and shit so being able to do it on the go would be sick.
Some bad news I just found out...My sister and I share a family plan, here ex boyfriend got in on the plan with us and used MY fucking upgrade to get a piece of shit mytouch3g. I gave him nor tmobile the ok to use my shit so I'm back and forth with t mobile arguing with them about honoring my upgrade. I'm thinking they will honor it but if they don't, Casey, I call dibs on the phone you get for free when you go to that convention thing lol
Some bad news I just found out...My sister and I share a family plan, here ex boyfriend got in on the plan with us and used MY fucking upgrade to get a piece of shit mytouch3g. I gave him nor tmobile the ok to use my shit so I'm back and forth with t mobile arguing with them about honoring my upgrade. I'm thinking they will honor it but if they don't, Casey, I call dibs on the phone you get for free when you go to that convention thing lol
In the official T-Mob press release for the G2 it says it has a Snapdragon™ MSM7230. So i wonder whats up
So the 1ghz Snapdragon everyone uses is QDS8x50, not MSM7230. Why don't they just call it Scorpion. And Casey is right, the Adreno 205 GPU is f'n fast, 3-4 tiems faster than the Adreno 200 which is in the QDS Snapdragon. So GPU intensive tasks this thing will be a beast, CPU intensive probably about the same as the rest. This build is based on 45nm design though so less battery consumption, heat etc. As well as it being down at 800mhz I expect the G2's battery life to be impressive. Once new Kernels roll out for this and we're seeing 1ghz+ speeds, yay. One thing that does piss me off though is that this awesome GPU is featured on Snaprdragons that clock in at 1ghz and 1.3 ghz speeds. So going with 800mhz is still a question
So the 1ghz Snapdragon everyone uses is QDS8x50, not MSM7230. Why don't they just call it Scorpion. And Casey is right, the Adreno 205 GPU is f'n fast, 3-4 tiems faster than the Adreno 200 which is in the QDS Snapdragon. So GPU intensive tasks this thing will be a beast, CPU intensive probably about the same as the rest. This build is based on 45nm design though so less battery consumption, heat etc. As well as it being down at 800mhz I expect the G2's battery life to be impressive. Once new Kernels roll out for this and we're seeing 1ghz+ speeds, yay. One thing that does piss me off though is that this awesome GPU is featured on Snaprdragons that clock in at 1ghz and 1.3 ghz speeds. So going with 800mhz is still a question
Yeah I feel that, I use Skype on the daily as well but TBH I've yet to find an occasion where I want/need to video chat and I don't have my laptop with me. That and the fact that the only Skype app for Android right now doesn't support video chat so you'd be using apps like Qik for video chat anyway..... (there was Skype video support in Fring but Skype pulled it).
That's fucked up about your upgrade, I would be wildin out on dude. I don't know how it works over there with family plans and shit but I hope you get it sorted.
I don't even know If I'll be able to get a phone even if I do go to the HTC event on Wednesday. The invite says something along the lines of "we will be giving out free devices to some of our attendees", I have no idea on what basis that happens. But if I do go, I'm going early. Like at least an hour before the event start time on the invite. If I have to sit and drink for a while at the bar then that's no big deal, lol. I want a damn device like right now!!!! lol
That's fucked up about your upgrade, I would be wildin out on dude. I don't know how it works over there with family plans and shit but I hope you get it sorted.
I don't even know If I'll be able to get a phone even if I do go to the HTC event on Wednesday. The invite says something along the lines of "we will be giving out free devices to some of our attendees", I have no idea on what basis that happens. But if I do go, I'm going early. Like at least an hour before the event start time on the invite. If I have to sit and drink for a while at the bar then that's no big deal, lol. I want a damn device like right now!!!! lol
Yeahhhhhhhhhhh motherfuckers
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Yeah but they often make problems sound way more serious than they are. As it is with most pro tech boards on the net 
Most of all interpolation on AMOLED screens isn't noticeable unless we're talking about some specific situations like mentioned in your quote. It's also way better at displaying non-native resolutions than LCD does.
It's true that SAMOLED drains your battery faster when displaying all-white but does it waaay slower while displaying darker things. It does not drain any energy while displaying black. If 2/3 of your screen is black - for example if you have black background then it only drains energy for bright elements that are displayed because it has no backlighting. On average it uses way less energy than LCD does and it wastes none unlike the LCD.
Whenever you "power on" the LCD it'll drain your batteries regardless of what you display there.
There are a few drawbacks to S-AMOLED. It's colors are beautiful and vivid but not as realistic as they should be. But that's how Amoled is overall. It's not a perfect technology yet. Actually none is but it is the best one there is at the moment.
It's the no.1 thing that I wish I had in my phone that I don't (or second to a LED flash).
I really love these screens. Beautiful.
Most of all interpolation on AMOLED screens isn't noticeable unless we're talking about some specific situations like mentioned in your quote. It's also way better at displaying non-native resolutions than LCD does.
It's true that SAMOLED drains your battery faster when displaying all-white but does it waaay slower while displaying darker things. It does not drain any energy while displaying black. If 2/3 of your screen is black - for example if you have black background then it only drains energy for bright elements that are displayed because it has no backlighting. On average it uses way less energy than LCD does and it wastes none unlike the LCD.
Whenever you "power on" the LCD it'll drain your batteries regardless of what you display there.
There are a few drawbacks to S-AMOLED. It's colors are beautiful and vivid but not as realistic as they should be. But that's how Amoled is overall. It's not a perfect technology yet. Actually none is but it is the best one there is at the moment.
It's the no.1 thing that I wish I had in my phone that I don't (or second to a LED flash).
I really love these screens. Beautiful.
I was able to fuck around with my friends galaxy s and the screen is god damn amazing. we had it side by side with the iphone 4 and im taking the galaxy s for sure, avatar on it looked fucking amazing.
So my uncle is head of some sort of department for samsung, he pretty much controls most of the western US. He gets demo phones by the truck load pretty much, he offered me a galaxy s today, sadly it was for at&t
So my uncle is head of some sort of department for samsung, he pretty much controls most of the western US. He gets demo phones by the truck load pretty much, he offered me a galaxy s today, sadly it was for at&t
VZW is being very stupid with their methods. At first, it was the Fascinate that had Bing, then there was a rumor that all Android devices on VZW were stuck with Bing because of the new deal they signed with Bing/VZW. Now they're saying only some will ship with Bing. How do they decide this?
I say this a lot, but Android is growing too fast for its own good.
Android Is As Open As The Clenched Fist I’d Like To Punch The Carriers With)
I say this a lot, but Android is growing too fast for its own good.
Android Is As Open As The Clenched Fist I’d Like To Punch The Carriers With)
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